Open 833: Twin Trap [Postgame]

[Save The Dragons]

i just don't see vulture!scum going after noraa and trying for the bus when they could have just got an easy lim on me yesterday and won

[NorwegianboyEE]

I don't think that's true. Maybw you weren't the most townread slot at that point, but if both Vulture/Noraa went hard for you at that moment then the whole game might have turned very different because who would theoretical scum!STD be paired with then? If Noraa pushed you there then it would make you either have to be paired with me or TA or something.

[NorwegianboyEE]

And i don't think an battle fought on the premise of Norwee/STD is one that Noraa/Vulture would have a high chance of winning at that point.
Vulture and Ydrasse played smarter than that.

[Save The Dragons]

i think TA was scumreading my slot at beginning of elo so all they needed to do was wait for TA to jump on me and then noraa could have hammered if vulture went into the day with a vote on my slot.

i just don't think it was necessary to bus so why bus if it's not necessary?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I theorized that it might be planned from before the night that they would play out the rest of the game that way, and that Vulture's hasty vote on Noraa cements that idea.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Check it out yourself. They just voted like that when it could have been an gameloss if they were wrong.

[NorwegianboyEE]

If they had an town mindset and it was wrong.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'm tired and feel like crap and probably not going to put a lot more thought into this game. If I'm wrong scum'll hammer if not, happy to confirm that it's between me/Noraa today. Partner's probably STD who's finding every reason to waffle on Noraa and shade me for voting redtea, even though I had laid out a lot more reasoning why redtea was scum in my eyes at the time of posting that content.

VOTE: Noraa

tl;dr Noraa pushed redtea with the same reasons that they used to describe their viewpoint of the game in 724 (also, note that this post does the most work in giving a reason to townread TA who is townreading Noraa) earlier on, and then switched to defending redtea at the end of the day yesterday so that they could make a WIFOM argument of 'why would I do this as scum!' Also the hammer D1. Also, they're giving reasons to townread everyone to keep their options open.

[NorwegianboyEE]

It does make sense, and i don't want to lose to Ydrasse like this. I've lost too many ElO's as the town that get's mislimmed.

[Vulture]

I already made it clear I thought it was Noraa/STD and was willing to send the game on that because Noraa was a lot harder to kill.

[Vulture]

Like I literally could just vote STD at -any time- and not lock myself into a bussing plan because TA wanted Dragons dead and so did you do like, if you’re town here I literally would just need one of you two to agree and then it’s good. That’s so much easier and viable than wasting my time today.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I already made it clear I thought it was Noraa/STD and was willing to send the game on that because Noraa was a lot harder to kill.

Which betrays your plan, because why would town want to go for the harder lim in ElO if you truly believed it could be STD as well as Noraa.

[Vulture]

FWIW I ~feel strongly~ it’s Noraa and STD and given that one of those is a radically harder elim than the other, I tried to force it today so tomorrow could be an easy day of voting out STD.

[Vulture]

I already made it clear I thought it was Noraa/STD and was willing to send the game on that because Noraa was a lot harder to kill.

Which betrays your plan, because why would town want to go for the harder lim in ElO if you truly believed it could be STD as well as Noraa.

Because I’d rather just send it then than lose in 3-ELO if I have to 1v1 Noraa there, and I felt confident enough that it was Noraa to do so.

[Vulture]

Like me bussing Noraa is me jumping through hoops... or I could just kill the person everyone suspects and sell it as “oh Dragons is just getting bussed here” and then let Noraa pocket people and then there you go scum wins and we don’t have to do convoluted theatre we hope people believe for no reason.

[Save The Dragons]

std, it's just a game. it doesn't matter what you do this will have little consequence over your life as a whole. if you get it right, great, if not, you tried. plus you found noraa out so that's a good thing.

i think this is the right decision. if it's not, my bad.

VOTE: Norwee

[Vulture]

I was town!!! Yay.

[Vulture]

Norwee, was the plan to pocket me until I voted Noraa?

[Vulture]

Also sorry if that was stressful Dragons. >_< To be suspected and then suddenly choosing.

[Save The Dragons]

i think i'm okay it's just been a hard week

in the end i kept thinking about it and my mind wasn't changing it just had to be norwee to make any sense

[Vulture]

I hope the next one thin will go easy on you. <3

[Save The Dragons]

thanks i hope so

[NorwegianboyEE]

I didn’t think your mind was changing, but i had to try.

[Save The Dragons]

i tred you the entire game

[NorwegianboyEE]

Really, the plan was for me to just buss Noraa like i said you did. But Noraa wanted to brute force it so i went along it. And it was the wrong play.