Mini 2247: Mountain Dew Mafia (Game Over)

[Wisdom]

Theres no way i turn it into you lying
Youd never lie about something provable
And youve been consistently town

[Wisdom]

Like, right here, i commit myself not just to not turn it onto you, but in general. If I survive the vig, I die. Its that simple.

[MUSHSHAGANA]

There is absolutely no way you don’t try to sell it that way if you make it through the night anyway. You said it yourself, you see being miseliminated as a loss. Even if you WERE somehow town in that instance, you’d try to build that case, come the hell on. Given your track record of swaying slots that know you, you’d probably succeed too. Absolutely not.

[Wisdom]

There is absolutely nobody who would buy that you fakeclaimed vig, come on

[Wisdom]

I feel this convo is ridiculous

Rather than speculating about what i do as scum you should reread and just realize mm is scum

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Wisdom, you are putting so much effort into something that is a matter of the order that the same things happen in that it’s backfiring on you. I am more convinced you are scum than when we started. (Side note: I DID reread and I came to the conclusion I did here despite being biased towards the bears as scum!)

And if you’re right and I am wrong it is a matter of 48 hours before you can collect your win and chance to gloat about being right, all the sweeter for me having never seen the truth until you made it impossible to ignore.

But you would rather fight about it. It’s not just survivalistic — it’s desperate. And it’s doing everything under the sun to break free — “fine” and a self vote, ominous warnings of doom, outrage, pleading, it’s all there. Why does town do that if their scum rival is a guaranteed shot for the night? Why do you do that?

You are the best pick here, I’m sorry, and you make that more true over time.

[Wisdom]

okay bye

gamma, Titus, can we collect our win today?

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Sorry. You’ve cornered yourself at this point, Wisdom.

Either I need to worry and you can set up a counterwagon, making you obviously the correct target, or I don’t need to worry and you can’t set up a counterwagon, meaning you’re it anyway.

I’m not saying to give up. I’m just pointing out the logical trap. The construction was not my doing — you laid these bricks, you toweled this mortar. What other people make of your work is not for me to say, but I do want to point it out.

[Wisdom]

If i was scum id be cornered yes
The thing is i was under no pressure, i had no reason to put myself in the spotlight, nobody other than mm wanted to vig me or lim me, so excuse me if i laugh at all these "desperation" claims.
I do not want to be bested by scum and i do not trust town to win without me even if they have a million lims left.
You do not want to understand that, fine, push my lim together with scum and apologize in postgame. Just dont waste my time.

[Jada]

I still think that mush is scum.

[Jada]

If not SM.

[Wisdom]

Mush claimed vig titus
Its confirmable

[Wisdom]

And sm is confirmed vanilla so you're thinking last scum is goon?

[Jada]

This is a mini theme, not a mini normal. Vig =/= town

I'm hunting by play.

[Jada]

Second, a shot on an unexpected target =/= vig presence.

It's moonlogic but given our lead, I'd pursue reads over mechanics

[Wisdom]

Vig =/= town

what
Its a low complexity 2013 style game
Im pretty sure those didnt include scum vigs
I have never seen a scum vig in general

[Jada]

Scum vigs were allowed in mini normals in 2013. I was in the game that changed that rule years ago.

[Jada]

I get full well that my position is moonlogic on Mush so I prefer SM today.

I don't SR bears.

[Wisdom]

sm is not happening today because hes confirmed vanilla
Your choice is mm or me

[Jada]

sm is not happening today because hes confirmed vanilla
Your choice is mm or me

I'm going to be stubborn and abstain. No one needs me, so I can make a point.

[Wisdom]

Do you think last scum is goon

[Jada]

Do you think last scum is goon

Possibly. Don't care for mech talk either way.

The assumption the last scum is a PR is shit. Doubly so since vigs are negative utility.

[Jada]

Answer me this: If Mush is town, how is this a theme game?

[Wisdom]

But they only had a 2shot roleblocker
Is that enough against all the town power

[Wisdom]

Answer me this: If Mush is town, how is this a theme game?

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