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Post Post #2025 (ISO) » Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:15 pm

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incorrect, but I'm also not specifying the correct order of operations until cephrir comes in and answers my question

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Post Post #2026 (ISO) » Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:15 pm

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In post 1968, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 1945, Skybird wrote:I want to clear one thing up as we get started today. I mis-read the pm from the mod and I didn't get robbed night 1. I clarified meaning with the mod last night. :oops:
wait, wut?

Mafia apparently can steal 2 gold, but you were not one of those?

I thought only you and titus claimed to be stolen from, and therefore you were both confirmed town as the mafia targets
Galron's other ability which got tracked to Skybird was an investigative ability, so skybird is still town
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Post Post #2027 (ISO) » Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:16 pm

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Less that its up to me, and more that I feel like I could do it. And I am testing to see if I should
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Post Post #2028 (ISO) » Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:17 pm

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Hey marci, come get your mans and just tell me what you need so I can decide if I am gonna fight notty off your elim with a stick
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Post Post #2029 (ISO) » Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:19 pm

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In post 2026, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1968, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 1945, Skybird wrote:I want to clear one thing up as we get started today. I mis-read the pm from the mod and I didn't get robbed night 1. I clarified meaning with the mod last night. :oops:
wait, wut?

Mafia apparently can steal 2 gold, but you were not one of those?

I thought only you and titus claimed to be stolen from, and therefore you were both confirmed town as the mafia targets
Galron's other ability which got tracked to Skybird was an investigative ability, so skybird is still town
Yeah. I agree.

Titus is almost certainly town as well since they were the only person who claimed to be stolen from.

I am looking to see if that means that there is a missing steal. It might have been me actually lol
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Post Post #2030 (ISO) » Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:20 pm

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It's a 2 shot ability so maybe they didn't use it. Titus isn't 100% confirmed either since she could simply be lying, but I think it is likely she was stolen from.
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Post Post #2031 (ISO) » Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:24 pm

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The way that I read it was that each shot was 2 steals
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Post Post #2032 (ISO) » Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:24 pm

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Steal 2 gold twice
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Post Post #2033 (ISO) » Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:25 pm

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How did the crier use post tags when the thread was locked?
In post 2031, Lukewarm wrote:The way that I read it was that each shot was 2 steals
I read it as a single 2 gold steal that can be used twice
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Post Post #2034 (ISO) » Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:27 pm

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Scratch that, they're not post tags
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Post Post #2035 (ISO) » Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:28 pm

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I think you were right, and I misread it
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Post Post #2036 (ISO) » Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:31 pm

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By the way, mafia going straight for guiltylion and guiltylion not being protected makes me think that mafia have a strongman ability they decided to use here
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Post Post #2037 (ISO) » Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:33 pm

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I think I saw the 2 good, and the claims from both Skybird and Titus, and made the leap without realizing it.

So I guess scum have a night steal (and hit Titus)
And someone else has a dawn steal (and hit Skybird)
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Post Post #2038 (ISO) » Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:34 pm

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skybird corrected herself that no steal happened to her and it was just a misinterpretation of the daystart message, which I can verify confused me as well

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Post Post #2039 (ISO) » Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:35 pm

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Which brings me back to this:
In post 1961, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1945, Skybird wrote:I want to clear one thing up as we get started today. I mis-read the pm from the mod and I didn't get robbed night 1. I clarified meaning with the mod last night. :oops:
Hey, this is interesting.

It means Titus was likely robbed by scum unless she is lying, making her more likely to be town.

It also means the mafia team thought that a townie would step forward and claim to have robbed skybird. I'm specifically thinking about this post:
In post 1366, Off The Hook wrote:VOTE: Dunnstral
I’m feeling like the points against Galron aren’t enough to condemn him when his claim could do some good imo
Dunnstral meanwhile has felt consistently scummy even after his PR dropped
marci also sus ceph and I’m lean town on him but also a bit tbd

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Also, OTH hard tmi'd yesterday with these posts:
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In post 1673, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 1667, Gamma Emerald wrote:the thing with why I initially asked for ability flavor was that I felt galron could be a scum invest role who checked skybird and killed wheme, and wanted to see if galron's flavor felt in line with where I'd expect a the scum invest to come from in the flavor

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Why are you jumping to an invest role, when we know that skybird has already claimed that their gold was stolen?
The wikipedia article I read said Rosencrantz and Guildenstern were sent to keep tabs on Hamlet, that sounds like it could be written as a watcher

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1674 and the nested 1667. At the time we believed that Galron stole gold from skybird, and had no reason to think otherwise. OTH jumped to investigative to try to appear knowledgeable but it actually contradicts what we thought we knew at the time to be thinking like this.

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Post Post #2040 (ISO) » Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:36 pm

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And that's a stupid-ass accusation because I straight up said I looked it up, there's no TMI in that

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Post Post #2041 (ISO) » Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:37 pm

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In post 2038, Off The Hook wrote:skybird corrected herself that no steal happened to her and it was just a misinterpretation of the daystart message, which I can verify confused me as well

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I think I double misunderstood then. I thought it was being clarified that it did not happen at night. I promise, I do have the ability of reading comprehension. It just seems to be failing today lol
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Post Post #2042 (ISO) » Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:38 pm

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That is AT WORST NAI because I have done wiki research for scumbuddies roles before (key instance being FFXIV) but I
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would have had the sense to craft his fakeclaim better than that, and also nitpicked it to an absurd degree for if I was his buddy

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Post Post #2043 (ISO) » Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:39 pm

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Post Post #2044 (ISO) » Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:41 pm

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In post 1964, Off The Hook wrote:
In post 1963, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1962, Cephrir wrote:i basically think that's good but should we wait to see if they can prove their thing
idk, should we? we'll have questions for you if we're not proven, ftr

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Post Post #2045 (ISO) » Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:43 pm

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In post 2004, Off The Hook wrote:
In post 1985, Lukewarm wrote:@Marci, can you guys 100%, no doubt about it, confirm yourselves next day phase?
i think potentially we can but it depends on a couple of things :dead:
this isn't really how you presented it before
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Post Post #2046 (ISO) » Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:45 pm

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to be clear all the untagged posts from this day phase are marci's

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Post Post #2047 (ISO) » Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:46 pm

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In post 2007, Off The Hook wrote:
In post 2006, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 2004, Off The Hook wrote:
In post 1985, Lukewarm wrote:@Marci, can you guys 100%, no doubt about it, confirm yourselves next day phase?
i think potentially we can but it depends on a couple of things :dead:
It is hard for me to step and and try to save you today on a maybe :/
depends on
1- results of test
2 - not being rbed (if theres people who can do this?)
why would you say this out loud
In post 2008, Off The Hook wrote:hmm
our ability to confirm ourselves relies on targeting another player, cephrir, you don't have anything in your role that would interfere with that, would you?

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why are you asking me this specifically

i'm not an ascetic if that's the question, but i am not going to fullclaim for no reason
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Also, I think Wisdom is scum.
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Post Post #2048 (ISO) » Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:46 pm

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In post 1316, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 1313, Wisdom wrote:I believe the claim
I don't. The claimed targets, the lack of understanding the role, the lack of the word "parity cop" anywhere in his explanation and the general method of claim by pieces is...

It reads like someone else wrote the fake claim for them, as one of the only ways to cover the tracked action.
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Post Post #2049 (ISO) » Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:50 pm

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ordinarily my kneejerk reaction would be why would scum wisdom go so hard on defense of a doomed partner but a scum flip from JC kinda makes that make more sense
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