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[T3]

ah got it

[T3]

your play here seems very similar to that so you can get a towered

[NorwegianboyEE]

You just read like a slot that is white knighting a slot that really hasn’t done enough to deserve it. Hence you’re not being helpful, but an obstacle to progress.

I had the exact opposite reaction
+scum for anti meld

Do you think i scumread Osuka?

[Azaariah]

like the whole thing just fucking smells. in fairness, i do agree that andante went off the rails way too quickly even for andante, but that's probably close enough to what i've seen that i can imagine this being scum or town andante just having a stroke a little bit too early

Paulas’s points about andante probably come from town. I don’t see scum hard defending such a weird slot.

you think this is hard defending? i absolutely think it could come from a buddy and need to hear more.

I don't necessarily agree with the conclusion, but I understand the push itself, because I was pinged by it initially, but then eventually moved Andante up. One of the reasons I let Andante run.

april why did you move andante up? they've done nothing productive since.

[Hella Jeff]

T3 (5) Dwlee99, osuka, Hella Jeff, NorwegianboyEE, Gamma Emerald [E-2]

HOW did i NOT NOTICE THIS AHAHAHA

[Azaariah]

hella jeff, is andante scum? why or why not?

[T3]

You just read like a slot that is white knighting a slot that really hasn’t done enough to deserve it. Hence you’re not being helpful, but an obstacle to progress.

I had the exact opposite reaction
+scum for anti meld

Do you think i scumread Osuka?

I assume you were talking about osuka. So, yes.
If not then I just haven’t been reading properly tbh

[T3]

We had the exact opposite reaction about doulas post.

[NorwegianboyEE]

You just read like a slot that is white knighting a slot that really hasn’t done enough to deserve it. Hence you’re not being helpful, but an obstacle to progress.

I had the exact opposite reaction
+scum for anti meld

Do you think i scumread Osuka?

I assume you were talking about osuka. So, yes.
If not then I just haven’t been reading properly tbh

I don't scumread Osuka. I'm just saying that what they are doing isn't something that i believe to be in towns interest.
That doesn't automatically mean i scumread them now.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Town can do something that is bad for town, just as scum can do something that is good for town.
It's not one-dimensional.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I feel like you jumping to discredit like that is more +scum for you than whatever it is you were trying to imply about me.

[T3]

You just read like a slot that is white knighting a slot that really hasn’t done enough to deserve it. Hence you’re not being helpful, but an obstacle to progress.

I had the exact opposite reaction
+scum for anti meld

Do you think i scumread Osuka?

I assume you were talking about osuka. So, yes.
If not then I just haven’t been reading properly tbh

I don't scumread Osuka. I'm just saying that what they are doing isn't something that i believe to be in towns interest.
That doesn't automatically mean i scumread them now.

I’m really confused now.

[T3]

Whiteknighting implies scum I thought?

[Azaariah]

after a little rereading, i actually think andante scum clears april. andante shades april so much that i don't think april could possibly be a buddy. that doesn't make sense.

i'm also having some paranoia on my andante read. it's not a fun feeling but i guess im just waiting for andante to come back and talk.

[Hella Jeff]

hey aza i'm coming back to you on your response but let me just
UNVOTE: T3

[NorwegianboyEE]

Whiteknighting implies scum I thought?

My definition has always bern that white knighting can be done by both scum and town, typically on a player that doesn’t look too good and is scumread by many.
It’s entirely possible that town can defend a real scum and i would still call it white knighting.
I really just don’t like it in general because it typically just helps scum by either saving a struggling mafia player, or keeping limbait alive for ElO when their flips would have been helpful to know beforehand.

[NorwegianboyEE]

The fact that you just instabelieve i scumread Osuka now because i criticized them is really meh.

[Azaariah]

i feel like t3 is town but im not sure how to explain why

[NorwegianboyEE]

For example. In large 236 when me and Koba + Dwlee hard pushed SSB. Loftwing and Cool Cookie came in and 100% white knighted a scum player because they were being put under a lot of pressure.

[Dwlee99]

Norwee said my name

[NorwegianboyEE]

If there’s a good reason why Andante is town then i’m fine with it.
But pretty much all Osuka said is: "oh man, pressure is bad and maybe something stinky is going on……" while their reasons for Andante being town was… not all that good.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Norwee said my name

Maybe the reason why i barely mention you is because you’ve barely done anything worth mentioning.
Did you consider that?

[Dwlee99]

Norwee said my name

Maybe the reason why i barely mention you is because you’ve barely done anything worth mentioning.
Did you consider that?

Yes this is true
Do you think I'm town tho

[NorwegianboyEE]

Not really, no.

[Dwlee99]

Fair enough