Open 836: Pick Your Poison (Game Over)

[Sleepless Assassin]

@SA

Fwiw contextually I’m pretty sure gamma has been going through rough times IRL (<3 Gamma). Does that info color your read of the wagon response?

Unvote

I can see where that would make it unmotivating to do townie things after being wagoned. Hope things get better soon Gamma. I still think Dunn is more likely town than Gamma so if the wagon pops back up as a counter to Dunn I'm probably jumping back on. But I'm not really scumreading Gamma either.

Vote Iconeum

Can we just do this? It feels like there's more support for it than the votes have suggested so far and usually when I get that feeling, it turns out I'm voting scum.

[Sleepless Assassin]

Boopfail

[Almost50]

Seriously though, what do you think about the situation re: Gamma since you’ve been gone?

Since I've been gone I hadn't been here; if you get my drift.

Also..

Hi

I'm here

[Almost50]

@Bingle: If you look back you'd probably notice Gamma didn't argue what I noted was indeed a scumtell of his. He said he didn't remember saying that and that the point he was arguing was in fact an important one. I'll let you be the judge if it was indeed an important matter or not.

[Almost50]

I also feel like mimicking someone on this site, so..

Hi

I'm here

[Bingle]

Hi

I'm here

[Gamma Emerald]

PenguinPower -scummy

Why

[Gamma Emerald]

why are those two hardtown? i'm townleaning cakez myself, and enchant is still a ?, but hardtown?

Cakez because gut read, and until proven otherwise I’m gonna continue trusting my gut on him
Enchant I think has been reacting to things in kinda towny ways? This might be retroactive justification because it’s mostly on the page you asked this question that I notice it rn

[Gamma Emerald]

What are your thoughts about gamma and the defeatism?

i've just reread page 30 about 3 times and each time i came up with a blank.

for a newer player, i'd say the "not giving reads immediately and going into antispew is scum!indicative", but gamma doesn't strike me as a player that would just go into complete antispew there? especially as he wasn't really that close to yeet

overall, not sure i get much. i can see as either alignment being annoyed that people are following the vote -- here, i was gonna write "that he thinks is incorrect", but i don't actually notice that he's disputing a50's metaread... ok uhh

bingle, what's the "objection" of yours gamma is talking about in 649? i didn't get it originally and i was just gonna just skip over it, but now i'm interested in trying to figure this out

Hrrrrrm
Anyway, I feel like the issue with A50’s point against me is it’s very YMMV: how important what I was questioning VP on is varies from person to person. So my main rebuttal was to bring up “you think this is unimportant but to me this might be valuable in bringing down VP because IMO he’s talking up a crock of shit like it’s gold”.

[Gamma Emerald]

And to personalize the gimmick:

I want a banana

Potassium

[Bingle]

Anyway, I feel like the issue with A50’s point against me is it’s very YMMV: how important what I was questioning VP on is varies from person to person. So my main rebuttal was to bring up “you think this is unimportant but to me this might be valuable in bringing down VP because IMO he’s talking up a crock of shit like it’s gold”.

Why does scum VP use such an obvious lie?

[Gamma Emerald]

I think it's less a lie and more such a nebulous accusation that it's essentially nothing, he couldn't even defend what he meant when pressed on it because it didn't really MEAn anything.

[Fun and Games]

I agree that you’d probably have a more nuanced read/plan by now if you/ico was S/S though.

i suppose this is fair
i'm having a very hard time seeing dats/ico being tvt tho

~ skitter

[Fun and Games]

Vote Iconeum

Can we just do this? It feels like there's more support for it than the votes have suggested so far and usually when I get that feeling, it turns out I'm voting scum.

i'm very interested in this, we're just waiting for one thing to happen first before we vote there

~ skitter

[Fun and Games]

PenguinPower -scummy

Why

not being townie, but specifically what that includes: having a lighter iso for him, not really trying to move the game along, making meh 'popular' votes when i'm not convinced he's actaully scumreading the people he's voting

~ skitteR

[Fun and Games]

i'm potentially changing my mind on gamma again

~ skitter

[Datisi]

i'm potentially changing my mind on gamma again

~ skitter

if this is towards scum, can you enlighten me?

[skitter30]

i'm kinda vacillating on whether town-or-scum gamma is more likely to have a very apathetic response to being wagoned rn

[Fun and Games]

i'm kinda vacillating on whether town-or-scum gamma is more likely to have a very apathetic response to being wagoned rn

ahhhhhhhhh

~ skitter

[Bingle]

I'm treating it as NAI, fwiw.

I think AnyGamma is less likely to be inclined to put a lot of effort into a losing proposition, which makes me think AnyGamma would be more likely to shut down at a functional E-1 right now.

[Bingle]

@SS- can we get prods on Ico and VP perchance?

[Something_Smart]

@SS- can we get prods on Ico and VP perchance?

Sure.

Ico yes, VP is V/LA.

VC 1.6

Gamma Emerald (3)- Almost50, Bingle, PenguinPower
Dunnstral (3)- VP Baltar, Iconeum, Datisi
VP Baltar (1)- Gamma Emerald
Datisi (1)- SirCakez
Not_Mafia (1)- Not_Mafia
Sleepless Assassin (1)- Enchant
Iconeum (1)- Sleepless Assassin

Not voting (2)- Fun and Games, Dunnstral

With 13 alive it takes 7 to reach a majority.

Deadline is in (expired on 2021-11-23 23:00:00)

Mod notes: my toast fell apart this morning

[Fun and Games]

VOTE: penguin

[PenguinPower]

Pooky gonna be mad at you.

[PenguinPower]

How does toast fall apart?