Anything uPick (Endgame)

[RadiantCowbells]

Anything uPick Votecount 1.152:

Victorine (8): Jjh927, Deimos27, Datisi, Good Luck Buddy, Sakura Hana, Gamma Emerald, T3, Galron
Gamma Emerald (4): Ydrasse, Ircher, Something_Smart, Ratmans
Ircher (3): Gypyx, Titus, Cheeky Wings
Galron (1): Clemency
Sakura Hana (1): Victorine
Good Luck Buddy (1): Taly
Loftwing (1): GrandpaMo
GrandpaMo (1): Loftwing
Deimos27 (0):
Taly (0):
Clemency (0):
Cheeky Wings (0):
Something_Smart (0):
Datisi (0):
Jjh927 (0):
Ydrasse (0):
T3 (0):
Gypyx (0):
Titus (0):
Ratmans (0):

Not Voting:

With 20 alive it's 11 to lim.

The day will end in (expired on 2021-11-20 21:00:00).

[RadiantCowbells]

VCS in morning

[jjh927]

Is that one going to be a votecount

Pedit: Booooo we want vcs now

[Good Luck Buddy]

i still don't understand ircher confidence on victorine and he has spent more time arguing about how he determines a confidence level than he has on explain why he is actually confident enough about victorine to justify the statement of "why not yeet ME first and then not victorine"

like u should be dead certain and ready to justify that read if ur willing to put ur own head in the guillotine. And here we just get "trust me"
I swear ircher is actually trying to get victorine yeeted with these bad level defense.

the reverse psychology game

[Good Luck Buddy]

Fascinated at how polarised the reads of Fire/Pooky (sorry didn't pay attention to who it was) and Cheeky are wrt jjh

cheeky being wrong is a not a new thing

I love how you always hold my town game in such high regard.
~C

im sorry i just see u as someone who can easily be fooled

[Ircher]

Or to put it this way: if I guess a player's flavor correctly, I get a reward. Just like in those old 'prize catching games' at carnivals.

Mo did in fact request this, but that doesn't really mean she was obligated to answer such a rolefishing question, yet she did so after all.

[Ircher]

i still don't understand ircher confidence on victorine and he has spent more time arguing about how he determines a confidence level than he has on explain why he is actually confident enough about victorine to justify the statement of "why not yeet ME first and then not victorine"

Only one person has actually asked me to defend the read. Everyone else has been arguing about how to interpret confidence levels.

[Good Luck Buddy]

i still don't understand ircher confidence on victorine and he has spent more time arguing about how he determines a confidence level than he has on explain why he is actually confident enough about victorine to justify the statement of "why not yeet ME first and then not victorine"

Only one person has actually asked me to defend the read. Everyone else has been arguing about how to interpret confidence levels.

is everyone else mean jjh....
okay now im asking u to defend the read.

So go for it. I am listening

[Ircher]

If scum!Victorine wanted to coast in this game, she would have just kept up her minimal engagement with the game. That's not at all what happened. Over the course of today, she has offered significant amounts of information unrequested from her.

I will update this to say that the unrequested part is a stretch, but the overall point still stands that she was much more engaged than I would expect her to be if her goal is simply to survive.

[GrandpaMo]

doesnt mafia have way more liability to bus vic now?

fwiw -- its way better just to take the equity of bussing vic rn since vic is in a shitty spot and there is atleast one person in the mafia scum pt that has approached the idea of bussing/...

[GrandpaMo]

Or to put it this way: if I guess a player's flavor correctly, I get a reward. Just like in those old 'prize catching games' at carnivals.

Mo did in fact request this, but that doesn't really mean she was obligated to answer such a rolefishing question, yet she did so after all.

what..? what did i equest

[Cheeky Wings]

Fascinated at how polarised the reads of Fire/Pooky (sorry didn't pay attention to who it was) and Cheeky are wrt jjh

cheeky being wrong is a not a new thing

I love how you always hold my town game in such high regard.
~C

im sorry i just see u as someone who can easily be fooled

I've caught you as scum, so I don't know where you're getting that impression. I don't really want to go down this path so I'll let you be king of your own reality.
~C

[Ircher]

You asked her what her night ability was. @Mo

[jjh927]

I mean, I asked you about why you felt that Victorine appeared to be excited to play the game and I thought your answer wasn't very convincing

[Good Luck Buddy]

I've caught you as scum, so I don't know where you're getting that impression. I don't really want to go down this path so I'll let you be king of your own reality.
~C

im not the king of my reality. im clearly the jester.
its like u don't even know me.

if u want to argue about something we can argue about how the fuck does ur hydra partner think we are town. Fucking clearly wrong.

[GrandpaMo]

You asked her what her night ability was. @Mo

ah i see

i actually didnt expect them to answer LOL

im suprised they did tho

i do kinda agree with t3 on it being on a sorta of a scumclaim

i kinda have confbias tho after our little stinky interaction earlier

[GrandpaMo]

i can feel the heat coming omg

this is gonna be insane

also does anyone see firebringer / ircher / jhhh as one possible scum between this?

[Ircher]

I mean, I asked you about why you felt that Victorine appeared to be excited to play the game and I thought your answer wasn't very convincing

You asked this before Victorine started seriously engaging with the thread. Your outlook would probably be different now even if you come to the same conclusion.

[Good Luck Buddy]

doesnt mafia have way more liability to bus vic now?

fwiw -- its way better just to take the equity of bussing vic rn since vic is in a shitty spot and there is atleast one person in the mafia scum pt that has approached the idea of bussing/...

lets not concern ourselves with bussing/whiteknighting or anything else until i get a GOD DAMN FLIP

[Cheeky Wings]

Or to put it this way: if I guess a player's flavor correctly, I get a reward. Just like in those old 'prize catching games' at carnivals.

Mo did in fact request this, but that doesn't really mean she was obligated to answer such a rolefishing question, yet she did so after all.

I'll counter this with the fact Taly claimed his flavour in the first few posts and Vic hasn't picked that up, which, if the role did work as they say it does, would've stood out to Vic like a sore thumb.
~C

[jjh927]

Back to the GMo-Vic attempt at solidifying Victorine's faked post restriction into something less obviously faked, I should probably go quote the post that really set me off

Okay we know you are there now Yume

Don't run away from us again

I haven't forgotten your me-catching skills, by the way.

Cool- are you willing to state any reads

JJ...

Vic is giving you a hint.

Vic is a player that knows you.

Think.

It is also a layer that knows Firebringer.

HOW do you make this link? How does anyone see 3429 and make the conclusion that Yume was giving me a hint with that post?

[Deimos27]

I mean, I got there because GMo seemed to be interpreting things in a really leapy way

I'll clarify.

I do suppose the interaction was very slightly +equity for Mo being informed about Victorine's flavour, but I didn't buy your firm confidence in that associative, nor the reasoning behind it that Mo's intent would have been some intricate plan to get everyone to believe the post restriction.

Because (a) no one was ever gonna believe the post restriction anyway; that ship sailed 100 pages ago
And (b) what is the scum motivation exactly? If people magically did believe the post restriction how would that actually have justified Victorine's previous failure to try to work around the post restriction and try to any degree to participate in the game? What reason did scum have to think establishing the truth of a Victorine post restriction would result in Victorine tr's?

Let me know if I'm entirely misunderstanding your case

[Good Luck Buddy]

I've caught you as scum, so I don't know where you're getting that impression.

You don't catch Firebringer as scum.

Firebringer catches himself.

[Galron]

ghost associatives compared to ghost individual tells

I lent out my BoM. Can you explain ghost associates and ghost tells?

what is this book of mafia in actuality

By multiple authors, stories passed from generation to generation and finally taken down by a group of clandestine pseudo-monks, who wore wolf pelt coats and unicorn ears. One cold winter, the monks were holed up in a cave in northern British Columbia, or so the story goes. With their Smith Coronas (and one Selectra), and a pallet full of ribbon, the monks debated which stories should be taken in writing, and then got to work transcribing all of the components of the world of mafia. From parity cops to bus drivers to chainsawing to replace-outs, these monks wrote evey truism into what has become the Book of Mafia.

Acquiring a copy can be difficult, even in this modern age, so I suggest once you do, you never let it out of your site. If you do lend it out, make sure the collateral is adequate, if it ever can be.

[Good Luck Buddy]

I've caught you as scum, so I don't know where you're getting that impression.

You don't catch Firebringer as scum.

Firebringer catches himself.

or in scum dance game. suicides on self.