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Post Post #6700 (ISO) » Mon Nov 15, 2021 7:36 am

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In post 6699, Taly wrote:I honestly do not know for sure. I would've spent the full length of time mod gave me to decide.

I would say most likely
Ydra
because I don't want to disrupt townbloc + would want to see if anyone in the townbloc would target Ydra if she were baited in front of them... what I would believe scum would likely do in such a scenario. But also because I would not be sure if
Ydra
truly is scum slipping through the game.

Next is a toss up between you and
Peta
. I would've said you under the justification of wanting to see the revival of Event 1/2 gamestate in the very end.
Peta
for defense of
Ggy
but that's such a shitty argument in game with 1 scum left, so I can't tell how I would've progressed had I gone that route - which is the least likely.
It wouldn't be "throw these 2 slots in peril one must be scum"

And yes this is subtle shade but I've beat it to death enough.
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Post Post #6701 (ISO) » Mon Nov 15, 2021 12:49 pm

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In post 6677, Ydrasse wrote:taly sounds so serious in that reply to skitter. scawy
In post 6678, Ydrasse wrote:(i’m at work and also feel like i am dying and running on no sleep that’s why i haven’t contributed yet but taly sounds very stern in that reply to skitter in a way that’s different than the playfulness of this phase.)
Skitter
conveniently stopped her townread of me when I started to buy into the
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S/S idea that
Dwlee
originally put forth.

And then proceeded to go post by post against my desire to nom you,
Ydra
with
Infinity's
minor support.

It could be argued that everybody in the Pink PT contributed to the lack of teamwork, but I felt ridiculed in the PT and I wanted
Dwlee/Skitter
to teamwork but it didn't happen.
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Post Post #6702 (ISO) » Mon Nov 15, 2021 12:50 pm

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Peta's
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Post Post #6703 (ISO) » Mon Nov 15, 2021 12:52 pm

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And it's over 20 pages of
Me/Ulya/Skitter
being the most vocal.
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Post Post #6704 (ISO) » Mon Nov 15, 2021 12:53 pm

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In post 6702, Taly wrote:
Peta's
analysis misses the context of the team PTs.
okay fair enough
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Post Post #6705 (ISO) » Mon Nov 15, 2021 12:56 pm

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It's unfortunate nobody else from the pink team can vouch for me here. :/

Peta
, what should I do? Focus on analyzing the 2
Gamma's
or help provide context for pink PT?
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Post Post #6706 (ISO) » Mon Nov 15, 2021 12:59 pm

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I feel I'm dying regardless where this event goes read wise.

Gemerald
is the only person I think opposes my elimination.
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Post Post #6707 (ISO) » Mon Nov 15, 2021 12:59 pm

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i will be candid and say i am almost certainly voting to flip you here and not ydrasse so if you're town you just have to solve in the gammas
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Post Post #6708 (ISO) » Mon Nov 15, 2021 1:00 pm

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:( I understand.
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Post Post #6709 (ISO) » Mon Nov 15, 2021 1:01 pm

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Fuck, this mislim is gonna sting.
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Post Post #6710 (ISO) » Mon Nov 15, 2021 1:04 pm

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In post 3026, Taly wrote:
In post 2981, unwnd wrote:Taly is a big question mark for me because they don't fit in my mind. This is a curious (?) where I don't think they're townie but also not null. They're a hard elimination and in my absolute tinfoil paranoia
I think they're being protected by scum
. I have less on the motivations of why, but I feel their presence to not be something that relieves me. Maybe it's their nature to weird, but I can't townread weird because something tells me that Taly is probably decent at his own weirdness and using it as a means to be townread. There's nothing entirely wrong with his approach but that alone makes me question because it is presented in such a processed and orderly manner where every appearance by him is very deliberate. It would be townie in another game but not this one, and not based on the events that have happened.
The bolded is the epitome of my fear this game but presented from an outside perspective with seemingly incomplete knowledge of my slot.

What unsettles me is that you don't reach any conclusion of my alignment from this information. Am I townblocking with my scumteam or am I good slot to parrot and WK as town for later game WIFOM?

On one hand, I can sympathize and appreciate your POV, on the other - this is the only time you've directly spoken about my slot. So its hard to gauge whether your suspicion is natural.

You are correct about one thing.

I am not a player to take at face value.
In post 3033, Taly wrote:I'm more often endgamed than I am mislimmed.
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In post 3043, unwnd wrote:
In post 3033, Taly wrote:I'm more often endgamed than I am mislimmed.
Is this because you think your reads aren't good? Susceptible to pocket? Still would like a little bit more cause yeah my thoughts were genuine and this is opportunity to get a more personal looka t you.
No and yes. Your predecessor,
Galron
, was right. I'm very susceptible to AtE.

I also have unpredictable read progressions.

I usually die the moment I get a strong solve.

I've had very strong elo performances but I still tend to lose them because scum takes advantage of people misinterpreting me.
In post 3056, Taly wrote:I'd like people to drop their WK for me as I speak with Unwnd. It's distracting.
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In post 3059, unwnd wrote:
In post 3054, Taly wrote:
In post 3043, unwnd wrote:
In post 3033, Taly wrote:I'm more often endgamed than I am mislimmed.
Is this because you think your reads aren't good? Susceptible to pocket? Still would like a little bit more cause yeah my thoughts were genuine and this is opportunity to get a more personal looka t you.
No and yes. Your predecessor,
Galron
, was right. I'm very susceptible to AtE.

I also have unpredictable read progressions.

I usually die the moment I get a strong solve.

I've had very strong elo performances but I still tend to lose them because scum takes advantage of people misinterpreting me.
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Who is exactly bothering you and how it is affecting your reads? I don't remember what a readlist from you looks like.
Saber/Cakez
are people I'm afraid of being pocketed by.
Infinity/Peta
to a lesser degree but I have a lot of recent reasons to negate that with viewing them with town motive.

Dwlee
doesn't feel agenda based at all. My only reference of scum him was that he had a clear position to take that was advantageous to him and there is nothing for him to cling on here.

Uly
Town.
Skitter
seems like a team player judging off my last comvo with her.

Ydra
is a slot I want to townread but I feel could easily be in a team with most players.

Toog
too but I feel like he is more LHF than definitively scum or town.

Gamma
hasn't made many pushes this game that I approve of but I think they're sincere intention-wise.

Dunn
is stiff and someone I want to see an event result around to read better.

I felt generally good about
Galron
and I kind of feel like the heat your slot gets is very mob-centric and something I don't entirely trust, but can understand the reasons of suspicion.

Where is
Gypyx
?
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Post Post #6711 (ISO) » Mon Nov 15, 2021 1:06 pm

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You may really want to read back at my interactions with
Galron/Unwnd
,
Ggy's
predecessors,
peta
.
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Post Post #6712 (ISO) » Mon Nov 15, 2021 1:08 pm

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the interactions where you came away confident he was town?
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Post Post #6713 (ISO) » Mon Nov 15, 2021 1:09 pm

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I think the bolded part of
unwnd's
first post above could've been informed in retrospect.
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Post Post #6714 (ISO) » Mon Nov 15, 2021 1:12 pm

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In post 6712, petapan wrote:the interactions where you came away confident he was town?
I don't know how this is relevant and if it were, I think that just makes me more sincere here.
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Post Post #6715 (ISO) » Mon Nov 15, 2021 1:13 pm

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>_<
Taly isn't as strong a TR for me as peta but he's still feeling like town
problem is I could say that for everyone
I'm gonna try to weigh taly and ydrasse in my mind here and determine which out of those 2 feels more possible scum, since that's basically all I can do rn
but I rlly feel like this choice is kinda just bad? Maybe I shouldn't have been so fervently for Taly getting Ruler position to the point I hurt my own case, because it feels like gooey really did switch to wanting himself to be it as a countemovement to me pushing for it being taly so hard
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Post Post #6716 (ISO) » Mon Nov 15, 2021 1:15 pm

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I demand hugs post game.
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Post Post #6717 (ISO) » Mon Nov 15, 2021 1:19 pm

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I really don't understand the case for me being scum.
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Post Post #6718 (ISO) » Mon Nov 15, 2021 1:19 pm

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Oh wait, there isn't one
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Post Post #6719 (ISO) » Mon Nov 15, 2021 1:20 pm

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Yeah I have to sign off for the night. I'll come back feeling less defeated tomorrow. :)
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Post Post #6720 (ISO) » Mon Nov 15, 2021 1:27 pm

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In post 6717, Taly wrote:I really don't understand the case for me being scum.
In post 6718, Taly wrote:Oh wait, there isn't one
i mean your posts right now are kind of bad/survivalistic

and i have merely said i don't have reason to clear you as compared to ydrasse - there's some stuff with the skitter interactions i can kinda squint my eyes and scrunch my nose at and say something is fishy here maybe but nothing concrete

but the fact of the matter is
every other living player was pushed by scum at some point and you were not


your job needs to be to find out who bussed
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Post Post #6721 (ISO) » Mon Nov 15, 2021 1:28 pm

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or who was bussed rather, w/e
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Post Post #6722 (ISO) » Mon Nov 15, 2021 1:32 pm

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In post 6720, petapan wrote:but the fact of the matter is every other living player was pushed by scum at some point and you were not
This is overtly wrong but i don't have the spoons to argue right now
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Post Post #6723 (ISO) » Mon Nov 15, 2021 1:33 pm

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Nor think it's a good use of time.
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Post Post #6724 (ISO) » Mon Nov 15, 2021 1:36 pm

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Peta
please give me space until tomorrow.
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