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Post Post #1400 (ISO) » Thu Nov 11, 2021 12:48 pm

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I think that Cyrus just doesn't want to be Jailkept by Dweelee for some reason, so that they can jailkeep me, so that their maybe buddy can go murderize others.
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Post Post #1401 (ISO) » Thu Nov 11, 2021 1:31 pm

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In post 1397, cyrus62 wrote:And before you say that's why you lock him up. How if I'm already in a cell?
There are 0 worlds in which you are not jailkept. If you're town, you will jailkeep Dwlee.

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"Player B (a Mafia Roleblocker) shoots and roleblocks player A. Player A (a Jailkeeper) jails player B.
Does player A die?
Player B shoots player A
Player A blocks player B's shot
Player B blocks player A's block
Player A blocks player B's block
Again, the blocks of the blocks cancel out. Just as before, this means that the non-block actions are blocked, and fail, so in this case player A survives (the shot was blocked)."

This scenario directly applies here, and this is the most common way to resolve blocker loops.
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Post Post #1402 (ISO) » Thu Nov 11, 2021 1:32 pm

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VOTE: No elimination
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Post Post #1403 (ISO) » Thu Nov 11, 2021 1:33 pm

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In post 1389, Mama Ru wrote:What's up?
You're gonna investigate someone, preferably cyrus, so we can finally end this game.
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Post Post #1404 (ISO) » Thu Nov 11, 2021 1:36 pm

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VOTE: no elim
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Post Post #1405 (ISO) » Thu Nov 11, 2021 2:58 pm

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VOTE: NO LIM
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Post Post #1406 (ISO) » Thu Nov 11, 2021 3:25 pm

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Just to recap:

I block STD and Bingle
Dweelee and Cyrus jailkeep eachother

STD tracks me, and Bingle does whatever

Mama Ru investigates one of Loftwing, Cyrus, and STD.
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Post Post #1407 (ISO) » Thu Nov 11, 2021 4:27 pm

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VOTE: nolim
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Post Post #1408 (ISO) » Fri Nov 12, 2021 5:21 am

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final vcNo-hammer (4): Bingle, Save The Dragons, Dwlee99, Mama Ru

With 6 alive, it took 4 votes to reach a decision to no eliminate.


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The Jerseyites, overjoyed by their return to their homeland, decide to stay their violence for a day.


The day resolves with no elimination. It is now Night 4.


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Post Post #1409 (ISO) » Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:21 am

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There is a shocking lack of dead when the sun rises again.


No dead.


headcountSame as before.

Takes 4 to reach a decision.


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Post Post #1410 (ISO) » Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:23 am

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Let's hear it mama ru
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Post Post #1411 (ISO) » Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:40 am

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Cyrus is even-night jailkeeper.
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Post Post #1412 (ISO) » Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:41 am

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No one died! Rainbows!
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Post Post #1413 (ISO) » Mon Nov 15, 2021 11:23 am

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Okay so who hasn't been checked

Are we SURE there needs to be a doctor
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Post Post #1414 (ISO) » Mon Nov 15, 2021 11:44 am

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In post 1413, Dwlee99 wrote:Okay so who hasn't been checked

Are we SURE there needs to be a doctor
unless bingel is bullet proof yes
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Post Post #1415 (ISO) » Mon Nov 15, 2021 12:28 pm

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In post 1413, Dwlee99 wrote:Okay so who hasn't been checked

Are we SURE there needs to be a doctor
As I've probably said before, mechanical shenanigans that won't be explained until the end of the game.
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Post Post #1416 (ISO) » Mon Nov 15, 2021 3:34 pm

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In post 1414, cyrus62 wrote:unless bingel is bullet proof yes
Literally cannot be.
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Post Post #1417 (ISO) » Mon Nov 15, 2021 3:38 pm

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In post 1413, Dwlee99 wrote:Okay so who hasn't been checked

Are we SURE there needs to be a doctor
Loftwing, Ru and STD.

I did not get confirmation that STD is a doctor, so I was in fact blocked.

The only thing that explains N1 from your POV and doesn't require a doctor or babysitter is me lying about having investigated enchant and I know that isn't the case. If there is not a protective role, there is a mod error to the best of my ability to parse the setup.
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Post Post #1418 (ISO) » Mon Nov 15, 2021 3:50 pm

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1 - Vanilla (town)/Goon (groupscum)/Bulletproof (3p) - It could explain things if I were BP, but also I was Rolecopped as a JOAT, so...
2 - Alignment Cop (moderator, roll another d20 to determine which alignment it finds, turning it essentially into a Bloodhound, Cop, Seer, Conspiracy Theorist, Private Investigator, or FBI Agent, depending on what rolls) - Doesn't stop deaths.
3 - JOAT (With a 1-shot of Alignment Cop, Doctor, Roleblocker, and one role on this list (roll d20) each.) - I did not Doc on N1.
4 - Mason-type (Roll d20, rerolling same-faction results, to determine if they are added to the Hypogeans, Masons, Monks, Truthers, Atheists, or Neighborhood Watch, based on what evil alignment rolls) - Doesn't stop deaths
5 - Neighborizer/Cult Leader - Doesn't stop deaths
6 - Fruit Vendor - Doesn't stop deaths
7 - Paranoid Gun Owner - Kills anyone who targets them
8 - Parity Cop - Doesn't stop deaths
9 - Role Cop - Doesn't stop deaths
10 - Tracker - Doesn't stop deaths
11 - Asceticizer - Doesn't stop deaths
12 - Motion Detector - Doesn't stop deaths
13 - Finder (moderator, roll another d20 and consult this list for the result) - Doesn't stop deaths
14 - Voyeur - Doesn't stop deaths
15 - Doctor - Hey! This is what we're looking for!
16 - Babysitter - Or this!
17 - Bus Driver - Explains why I didn't die, sure, but why didn't Owl die for targeting Enchant?
18 - Jailkeeper - Explains why I didn't die, but I wouldn't have gotten a result.
19 - Roleblocker - You can't roleblock a PGO.
20 - Vigilante/Serial Killer - Doesn't stop kills.


That is every possible role in the setup. The only way that both Owl and I should have lived after I submitted a cop on Enchant is if Doctor, Babysitter, or JoaT targeted me. If you want to eliminate me to confirm this information that makes me not have to care about the game anymore and I'm all for that.
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Post Post #1419 (ISO) » Mon Nov 15, 2021 4:14 pm

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I say we zero deaths two days in a row either scum is choosing to no kill or it's a alien who already used third kill or we have a jester.
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Post Post #1420 (ISO) » Mon Nov 15, 2021 4:22 pm

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I did not act last night . I had asked the mod what happens if two jk targeted each other . They basically cancel each other out . Mod said no one gets locked up that way. Aka no protection so I didn't act so I was safe. But funny enough if I would have acted neither I or dw would have been safe nor would either be locked up. So dw may not have realized this and choose to not act. Joat doesn't have the be town.
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Post Post #1421 (ISO) » Mon Nov 15, 2021 4:26 pm

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@MOD:
If a reflexive vigilante visited a reflexive asceticizer, and another player visited the reflexive vigilante, would that player die even though the reflexive vigilante was ascetic?
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Post Post #1422 (ISO) » Mon Nov 15, 2021 4:49 pm

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The thing is though is that even if Bingle wouldn't have died because Enchant was Asceticized, Bingle still got a result on Enchant, which is not something you can get on an Ascetic.
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Post Post #1423 (ISO) » Mon Nov 15, 2021 4:55 pm

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Right, and it couldn't be a bus drive

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Post Post #1424 (ISO) » Mon Nov 15, 2021 5:02 pm

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In post 1421, Dwlee99 wrote:
@MOD:
If a reflexive vigilante visited a reflexive asceticizer, and another player visited the reflexive vigilante, would that player die even though the reflexive vigilante was ascetic?
Reflexive Vigilante can't visit.
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