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[geraintm]

Imo using partner interactions between unflipped players is... ambitious.

I like this ^^^

[geraintm]

Ok, not gonna lie, I was going down the list for "who has posted the most" and landed on Jeff. The more I think about it, the more I can't get it out of my head, then looking at the ISO, Jeff + Aza is looking real plausible.

just stop this people. you ar elike...25% to be right about anyone today, so linking to someone else....just dont!

[geraintm]

6 days, 20 hours, 45 minutes for people to do stuff. Fun

More like 6 days for Scum to wagon Town and get claims, and 20h 45m for Town to rush a deadline mislin

why dont we just....not?

[geraintm]

Looks like Geraint has found themself a snark buddy

there are literally....2 of us!

[geraintm]

Wait y'all

I just realized

When people were townreading me why did no one mention I'm Miller

Seriously it was in my first post. Are y'all reading or just posting?

because i've been heavily training to ignore all day 1 claims!

[geraintm]

idk, like an actual push on someone for a legit reason...

What makes a reason legit?

its day 1, there ar eno legit reasons

dude are you like the day 1 equivalent of a nihilist? "nothing's legit, everyone's just making shit up anyways who cares"

have you not met me before?

[Gamma Emerald]

are you okay?

[geraintm]

me? im good. i'm just bored and want to get to day 2

[Gamma Emerald]

you seem kinda mad tbh

[NorwegianboyEE]

If we’re going to be real i think Geraint is just using "day 1 imposs anyways lol" as an way to mask that his early reads are bad.
Because there literally is a ton of evidence that you can have good reads even without a single in-game flip.

[Gamma Emerald]

and?

[geraintm]

you seem kinda mad tbh

no, not at all.

If we’re going to be real i think Geraint is just using "day 1 imposs anyways lol" as an way to mask that his early reads are bad.
Because there literally is a ton of evidence that you can have good reads even without a single in-game flip.

i cannot have good reads day 1. being honest, i don't often have good reads any other days but i do try then - i often get fixated though to the detriment of town. but day 2 i get better and put in effort to back up my logic - which i hope at least lets everyone else in the game read me properly. even if i am playing badly i owe it to everyone else to play to the best of my ability.
i think last game i had 2 i wanted to go after on day 2 and 1 turned out to be scum so that isn't a bad hit rate, i was pleased with that (and spotting all the eliminations were going to be wrong)

[April Ludgate]

If we’re going to be real i think Geraint is just using "day 1 imposs anyways lol" as an way to mask that his early reads are bad.
Because there literally is a ton of evidence that you can have good reads even without a single in-game flip.

I do believe Geraint’s playstyle to be of someone who thinks this about all day 1’s, and i think that the fact it’s coming up so much is in fact because he has no reads, whereas if he was scum, he’d have fabricated some.

I also don’t believe that to be a particularly strong scum move because after Day 1, you get screwed, because you have no gamestate positioning.

[T3]

I'll probably have to read into other team options before we flip someone today, but this is essentially how I get my reads, partner interactions. It's just hard when there's not a whole lot of interactions amongst people

Imo using partner interactions between unflipped players is... ambitious. It's not like it can't be made to work, but I usually don't see it accomplishing much especially early on.

But you do you, and I think this is the kind of content everyone wants to see from you. Just don't try to push me for something T3 did unless he's dead and flipped scum.

(And fwiw I agree that his meta read is really weird and eyebrow-raising. It reminds me of this. I would like to hear him elaborate on it if at all possible.)

Btw the read that game I’m pretty sure was completely made up

[T3]

Anyways, i'm not touching the S_S slot with a foot long pole considering how bad i am at reading the slot.

Norweetown
For his attitude to the game

[T3]

Wait y'all

I just realized

When people were townreading me why did no one mention I'm Miller

Seriously it was in my first post. Are y'all reading or just posting?

Oh

[T3]

okay
kinda curious what T3 is looking for from me, not saying he should have me as town but he started off saying he didn't know how to read what I was doing and hasn't really progressed past that

I just don't townread you.

But you TR ss?

A little

[Something_Smart]

Btw the read that game I’m pretty sure was completely made up

Yeah I figured.

So... can you demonstrate that it isn't this time?

[Something_Smart]

Also the problem with D1 nihilism is that if everyone buys into it and just treats D1 like it's pointless and random then D2 becomes another D1.

[T3]

Btw the read that game I’m pretty sure was completely made up

Yeah I figured.

So... can you demonstrate that it isn't this time?

My read on you there wasn’t a meta read.

[Azaariah]

because I don't think whoever said az's content was all revolving around andante was wrong

is that supposed to be scummy? and i actually do interact with a lot of people during this process while trying to convince them. i also have an entire readslist. im quite sure you haven't even given a reads list yet.

Spoiler:

VOTE: murdercat

Eliminate all cats!!!

I have changed my avatar to represent our team! Go doggos!!

whaaatttt you must be mistaken!!! I am no enemy....

I love Chara!!!!

I'd say we trust lizards for now... cats are the number 1 enemy

oh wait, is it cause I refuse to fall under your rule?

andante i'm a town dolphin this time what about you

I'm a town doggo!!! WOOF WOOF

Anya I want questions!!!

@andante

can you explain:

why you joined the dog alliance
why you called yourself andante
why you're a wolf
why you voted for nero cain
why you're lurking and not answering my questions

YEESSS

why you joined the dog alliance- WOOF WOOF WOOF BARK WOOF
why you called yourself andante - BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK
why you're a wolf- AWOOOOOOOOOO
why you voted for nero cain- WOOF BARK BARK WOOF WOOF
why you're lurking and not answering my questions- WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF

@cakez u don't have to worry too much about me hyperposting. I will be alot less active starting tomorrow till weekend. This is day off. I also have interview/final exam and normal working hours this week so yeah...wont be spamming like my usual stuff. I think right now everyone will be posting alot and speed will die down in 24 hours after excitement of game start gets over with.

@chara good. all going according to my plan

im really enjoying all of andante posts and don''t know how much is due to avatar lol

I'm glad you love my posts!!

non doggos rise up

i will be the chameleon shepherd to lead us to greatness and wipe these dogs off the face of this farm

Woah there... we can't have a rebellion happening!!!

VOTE: Anya

im really enjoying all of andante posts and don''t know how much is due to avatar lol

i liked Andante's very first post where i was complimented and the avatar was different, so absolutely no biases here.

You should also be in the high doggo ranks!!

A bear has appeared...

but I like the "death to all cats"

Pooky always looking at the bright side of life! Spoken like a true doggo!!! I think he's actually one of us!

all dogs must be killed to death

such a shame that we outnumber you

andante has a stroke by page 2 but has noticeabely less of a stroke and does not recover from said stroke

i originally did scum read the excitement but now i do not. however, there is one specific thing that i am looking for because every time that showed up strong, i was totally certain andante was town and the opening post reflected that every time. even in the couple posts you quoted here, that thing that i am mentioning is present.

1. Almost50 - town but depends on meta
2. Azaariah - poe
3. Andante - poe
4. geraintm - not limming today
5. Dwlee99 - poe
6. Holiday - lean town
7. osuka - poe
8. T3
9. Free Spirit NorwegianBoyEE - town
10. Hella Jeff - town
11. Gamma Emerald - poe
12. April Ludgate - town
13. Something_Smart - lean town

i dont like this. the poe is really gross. it really looks like you are just placing everyone who took part in the 1v1 between andante and i and put them in poe because we are being discussed right now and most likely to come under pressure. the town reads are also just not good. you townread everyone who basically hasn't done anything (relative to the current "1v1") or have a decent amount of town reads. thats pretty lazy. you're just calling everyone who is partaking in this specific discussion poe which honestly is true, but i really hate that it's written out like this. it's very unsettling to see.

but I kinda want to go in norwee/holiday here, something tells me going in there is good

Seems like an odd choice based on who you've been ranting about these last pages.

Seems like a great choice to me, the 2 of you are acting the exact same, and ganging up against me, one yall could be town, but there is no freaking way you both are.

if there is scum, its norwegian boy. i am confident that holiday is town. but either way this argument just isn't valid. it might be true but it's still not valid because two people pushing you does not even mean one is scum. thats just not true.

Hm, i feel like your posts are pretty townie lately T3.
I reluctantly add you to townread.

Not sure i necessarily agree with everything you say, but i think it comes from a town mindset now.

what? i want to vote t3 over these posts. and i am okay with compromising on t3 today and i'll reread and try to reevaluate andante over the night if that cannot happen today. chances are that my mind doesn't change but it's hard to say.

[NorwegianboyEE]

what? i want to vote t3 over these posts. and i am okay with compromising on t3 today and i'll reread and try to reevaluate andante over the night if that cannot happen today. chances are that my mind doesn't change but it's hard to say.

I might just be really easy to pocket if T3 is scum. There are just numerous posts of his i like.

[Azaariah]

this is not a poe KEKW

It sure looks like one to me...

i disagree with this. that is not a poe.

Why is it bad I answer a question for someone else with sarcasm?

people giving reads early in the game isn't exactly a strange thing. it makes no sense to be replying "with sarcasm"

People TRing someone who has been scummy is a strange thing, and the question was definitely worth sarcasm, like someone asking april how confident, yeah I felt like answering, what you gonna do about it? hate? cool.

well scummy or not is subjective.

Also, SS, notice how you only talk after I go "I really don't think SS is town" mhm.. suspicious, I think you know aza and I are tvt, you're staying out of it, letting us nail the other one's coffin closed only to get the opposing one tomorrow or something, cause T3 put us both in poe. Like, I think I'm on to something

I may not agree with aza at all, and aza may hate my guts, but that's not my focus. Norwee/Holiday were just being annoying earlier, I think I'm actually standing by SS and T3 as both flipping scum.

this page of andante's posts actually looks pretty good now that i'm reading it. i read a couple of this posts earlier but i definitely feel some towny mindset seeping from these posts. andante's so offended at the idea that they are scum that i think it probably does come from town. i haven't seen my tell yet but im actually ok with retracting my last long post and unvoting for now. UNVOTE:

[Azaariah]

I’m already voting azaariah for that exact reason

I'll wait for Aza to return, there's not exactly a rush, but like, they're busy, ok cool, I understand, and once they're back, I wanna have a conversation, cause ultimately whoever we lim today, I want their reads, thoughts on stuff, anything to help tomorrow.

ok. i want t3 at the moment. i disagree with the something_smart read. i could consider april now that i think you're town. aside from that, i guess i do want to take a closer look at gamma emerald/geraint/almost50/slots that have been lurking. gamma emerald hasn't been lurking but their posts also haven't been good.

[Something_Smart]

i dont like this. the poe is really gross. it really looks like you are just placing everyone who took part in the 1v1 between andante and i and put them in poe because we are being discussed right now and most likely to come under pressure. the town reads are also just not good. you townread everyone who basically hasn't done anything (relative to the current "1v1") or have a decent amount of town reads. thats pretty lazy. you're just calling everyone who is partaking in this specific discussion poe which honestly is true, but i really hate that it's written out like this. it's very unsettling to see.

It seems pretty clear that the readlist is presented as him listing people he townreads for independent reasons and putting the remainder in the PoE.

If I understand this correctly, you are accusing him of completely faking all his townreads in order to put everyone who involved in the Aza/Andante fight in the PoE, yes? And if this is the case, then the natural follow-up would be to ask T3 to explain his townreads...