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[Taly]

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[Taly]

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[Gammagooey]

Taly on the other hand has dumped tons and tons of thoughts into the thread about potential scum,

What are you saying here? That all my pushes this game were half-ased?

Aside from Dunn and maybe Gamma Emerald day 1, pretty much

This is a blatant misrepreswntation. Not once had I preferred to put Saber in the duel on retrospect.

A nom, yes, but this phrasing is inconsistent with the timeline.

You're right about this one actually, meant to say it about the nomination but accidentally wrote duel instead

We fucked up

Saber

should've been nominated.

but pushed for people to go with consensus reads while nudging those reads away from scum (aside from Dunn who wasn't participating enough in the game to be worth defending long-term), which fits WAY more in terms of what I expect scum to try to do to get townies eliminated without coming under fire for it.

Huh?

1. What consensus reads did I push people to make?
2. Where is the argument that I'm scum here?
3. How did I budge views away from scum that I was correct on like Dunn - who I wagoned Event 2?

I can't follow your argument on me at all and it feels left-field compared to what you were just implying about my Pink PT performance.

Did you know I spent most of the pink PT 1v1ing Skitter on my Ydrasse read? Not that you'd care to hear me dispel the mystery of Event 4.

In the crossing you put out a list of the 6 people that could potentially cross/not cross as the final 2 with Fire on that list of people to live, and despite thinking that I was town enough to cross earlier I don't think you EVER asked me to detail why I was scumreading skitter, or asked anyone else about skitter potentially being scum on the crossing day when they were threatened as opposed to talking about other possible pairings before doing this

VOTE: Firebringer

Dwlee

, I disgrace your spirit once again.

Still open to changing onto

Toog/A50

but I think this is best both on consens and how I view this game.

2)Your skitter/Fire interactions feel like distancing when it doesn't matter and defenses when it does. Those interactions feel like scum behavior.
3) I keep saying that Dunn is an exception for the most part - your Dunn posts from memory (I'm not looking them up now) were good, I just think that he was an acceptable bus to you at the time whereas skitter's slot was a lot less so given that HQ/Tamora was already almost certainly not going to cross.

I didn't know that you spent pink mostly 1v1ing skitter. Maybe that part's not valid, you can go over it if you want but you didn't want to go over pink PT stuff earlier and I doubt it'll change my opinion on your play as a whole

VOTE: Yay

[Taly]

Why did I have to ask your permission to cross Fire or ask you to explain your scumread of Skitter in depth?

Isn't it more logical for you to explain why I'm wrong and elaborate rather than letting me misfire or perhaps, if you thought I was S/S, challenge me on this at the time?

No you holding me to a standard of having good be correct about Skiiter without actually taking the initiative to combat them or me yourself reads like a partner interaction.

[Taly]

Why didn't you tell Ulya that Fire was a bad cross too?

For someone who was dead set Skitter was confscum, your approach hardly aligns with that mentality.

[Taly]

It's valid for you to say I was trying to get a partner to cross with me

What I don't think is towny about your stance here is because I don't even remember you resisting this. If you had, it was too fragile for me to recall.

And that's inconsistent with your scumread on Skitter and your after-the-fact expectation that I should've allowed you to gatekeep my vote.

[Gammagooey]

I didn't know that you spent pink mostly 1v1ing skitter. Maybe that part's not valid, you can go over it if you want but you didn't want to go over pink PT stuff earlier and I doubt it'll change my opinion on your play as a whole

actually, this part maybe isn't 100% true, it can at least be phrased better. I'm still going to find your skitter interactions sketch as hell I think probably regardless of what you say happened in the Pink PT. You not voting yourself to live before Ydrasse voted Nay is a significant point in your favor of the possibility of you being town, but it's not ultimately going to change my

vote

.

Why did I have to ask your permission to cross Fire or ask you to explain your scumread of Skitter in depth?

Isn't it more logical for you to explain why I'm wrong and elaborate rather than letting me misfire or perhaps, if you thought I was S/S, challenge me on this at the time?

You don't have to ask permission. And I did elaborate on skitter by casing her, I think after you voted her but again I'm not going to go check at the moment. It's just another more detailed way of saying I think your skitter interactions are bad when it counted. I didn't think you were scum then, and was putting pretty much every bit of effort into getting both of skitter+tamora left behind.

No you holding me to a standard of having good be correct about Skiiter without actually taking the initiative to combat them or me yourself reads like a partner interaction.

as I said, I did case skitter that event. And I don't think this is 100% fair to you to hound you about it when I thought you were town at the time, but I'm fine being a bit hypocritical if it means getting who I think is most likely scum eliminated by explaining why I think they're scum.

[petapan]

And peta, please correct me if I'm overstepping my bounds here

But I don't think Gamma-scum is so apt to make a moralistic viewpoint out of your interaction with HQ. If he were scum wanting to invalidate a solid universal townread of you, he had so many more arguments.

I'm not at all weighing in on the personal.aspects.

I just think Gemerald being uninformed of HQ is a likelier mentality for his defense than just hedging on an otherwise doomed and universally scumread partner.

I could be wrong, it is valid for you to dismiss my entire thought process on this towncase on Gamma more thab anything, but this is what i think.

i think scum have every reason to get upset at me trying to clear myself off that as they'd be salted at what they probably saw as an unfair advantage.

but i think that was probably something that hit on a personal level regardless of alignment. so i don't think it's really alignment indicative.

[petapan]

Peta, when I die, please don't ignore my 1v1 with Ggy

i won't. i see what you are saying. your perspective makes sense and i can see a narrative that fits here. i'll look it over closely.

[petapan]

VOTE: Yay

[petapan]

I stand by the statements I made last night that players using claims of harm to their mental health to gain an ingame advantage is unethical. I do not respect such plays. I went back and checked my own posts toward her and I was entirely diplomatic toward her. I accused scum of being scum, and they fired back a loaded accusation at me. I think it is entirely within my right to claim this should make me obvious town.

[Ydrasse]

VOTE: yay

[Taly]

I get it 100% guys. Thanks for considering my thoughts

[petapan]

had a post but saving it for later. need to research skitter. actions ingame need to be viewed through the lens of the player and their own personality/tendencies. have some assumptions but don't want to jump to conclusions.

[petapan]

[petapan]

was going to deep dive for patterns before i remembered that scum PTs exist

lolme

relaxing my mind by immersing myself in old games i was not a part of



i wonder what skitter was thinking putting me up for the pink room nomination given she was pretty well in my blind spot prior to that. what a blunder.

somewhat suspect the scum pt for this game is never seeing the light of day though

[Taly]

was going to deep dive for patterns before i remembered that scum PTs exist

lolme

relaxing my mind by immersing myself in old games i was not a part of



i wonder what skitter was thinking putting me up for the pink room nomination given she was pretty well in my blind spot prior to that. what a blunder.

somewhat suspect the scum pt for this game is never seeing the light of day though

Oh wait I can actually answer this. Noting this post.

[Taly]

I don't remember what it was off the top of my head because it was too weak of a reason to convince me you were scum at all so-

[petapan]

i don't mean what she was pretending to think i mean why she

actually

did it

[Taly]

I mean I won't lie I wanted half of the Blue PT dead when Event 4 began

Just didn't feel compelled to nom based on reasons I was given from others in skitter's case.

Pedit

Oh. Hmm. I could still give context, just say the word.

[Taly]

While I have the chance, my apologies to everyone I have misread this game... except for

Ulya

over purely comical reasons.

[petapan]

Decision 1.11
Galron [8]:

skitter30

, Dwlee99, Ydrasse, Infinity 324, petapan, SirCakez, Gamma Emerald, Toogeloo
Gamma Emerald [5]: Cephrir, PookyTheMagicalBear,

Saber

, ulyana,

Dunnstral

ulyana [1]: Galron

Not Voting [2]: Taly, Gypyx

[petapan]

neither of saber or dunn posted before ydrasse pivoted back to gamma so not as interesting as i thought

[petapan]

[Taly]

Peta/Ydra, what do I do now?