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[Lukewarm]

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[Pavowski]

I think Enchant is probably scum.

(Now that Ceph is no longer here I feel less bad saying that)

Say what you will about Ceph or Enchant, but this is such a strange way to declare this. You were sus of the slot to begin with but didn't want to express it when Ceph was driving?

[Titus]

GuiltyLion was particularly unimpressed by Pav's answer and moderately unimpressed by OTH's. He's looking for specific posts.

I found Pav's answer somewhat contradictory.

[Bowser Jr.]

Wait so are Titus and DV literally claiming to have the same ability? Why are we not concerned about this?

~Spiffy

[Bowser Jr.]

Titus what pushed you over to voting dv?

The fact apparently he could talk to Juliet. Makes me think my role is a CC.

But can't you confirm it via his ability to talk to GuiltyLion?

Or do you just think that means one town and one scum with the ability?

I have already confirmed DV and GuiltyLion are in communication. GuiltyLion can send a message to DV through the mod.

I think one town one scum with the ability.

Uh unless we have two Town players with the same ability this is incredibly strange to me???

~Spiffy

[Titus]

Wait so are Titus and DV literally claiming to have the same ability? Why are we not concerned about this?

~Spiffy

Different. His is GL can send one message. Mine is a temporary PT. GL confirms DV's role in our PT.

Despite this conflict, GL has a weak TR on DV and a strong one on me.

[Skybird]

My reads on OTH are tricky. I have some experience with Marci but only a little with GE. I am finding Gamma's posts scummier than Marci's, bit what I'm finding scummy about them is mostly their reactions to Luke's push on the slot.

All that is to say I generally townread the slot, bit given that I am townreading most of the slots in game at this point, the townread on OTH would be toward the bottom of the list.

So you are saying you don't have any scum reads?

[DeasVail]

Wait so are Titus and DV literally claiming to have the same ability? Why are we not concerned about this?

~Spiffy

Ssshhh

[DeasVail]

I think Enchant is probably scum.

(Now that Ceph is no longer here I feel less bad saying that)

Say what you will about Ceph or Enchant, but this is such a strange way to declare this. You were sus of the slot to begin with but didn't want to express it when Ceph was driving?

Lol

Ceph is a friend of mine and someone I have had a lot of fun playing with before but I felt like this was a less fun experience for him, which made me sad.

I would think this explanation or something like it would have been considered reasonably likely, especially with the context of Ceoh’s posts about me

[Pavowski]

I think Enchant is probably scum.

(Now that Ceph is no longer here I feel less bad saying that)

Say what you will about Ceph or Enchant, but this is such a strange way to declare this. You were sus of the slot to begin with but didn't want to express it when Ceph was driving?

Lol

Ceph is a friend of mine and someone I have had a lot of fun playing with before but I felt like this was a less fun experience for him, which made me sad.

I would think this explanation or something like it would have been considered reasonably likely, especially with the context of Ceoh’s posts about me

Fair enough.

[Pavowski]

My reads on OTH are tricky. I have some experience with Marci but only a little with GE. I am finding Gamma's posts scummier than Marci's, bit what I'm finding scummy about them is mostly their reactions to Luke's push on the slot.

All that is to say I generally townread the slot, bit given that I am townreading most of the slots in game at this point, the townread on OTH would be toward the bottom of the list.

So you are saying you don't have any scum reads?

I'll post some of what I shared in neighborhood yesterday, which is to say:

Bowser is basically townlocked for his relentless pursuit of Galron yesterday.
I don't see a lot of reason to vote CoF as they're supposed to die tonight regardless (barring events happening?) even though I don't find them particularly towny.
I was in a conftown spot on Skybird until his revelation at break of day here, although whether that mechanically changes anything may be moot. I don't see a world in which scum!Sky comes clean on that one.

I'm towny on pretty much everybody in our Midsummer neighborhood.

Basically my top slots to consider today are Dunn, OTH, Ceph, Titus, and DV. Wisdom defended Galron's spot yesterday but I think calling Wisdom a scumpartner for Galron is a stretch and a bit too easy. DV's defense of the slot was more nuanced. So I probably start there.

Know what? Money where my mouth is. VOTE: Deasvail

[Skybird]

So where do you stand on Titus, Dunn, and Ceph/Enchant right now? Anything changed for those 3?

[Icebox]

Does Cephrir not like being scum?

-Bell

[Pavowski]

So where do you stand on Titus, Dunn, and Ceph/Enchant right now? Anything changed for those 3?

Dunn has been rather quiet today and feels lurky for me generally. I tend to scumlean that behavior but a few people have said it points to town!Dunn. I don't have a good frame of reference there so I'll stick with a scumlean there... Although I'm skeptical of that read given Dunn was the counter wagon to galron yesterday.

Ceph and Titus I'm having a harder time with and I am trying to sort out whether and how much they're staying low in my reads for OMGUS reasons. I got a little tilted with Wisdom the other day and their votes with me were part of that.

None of this includes mechanical stuff which I'm not fit to sort out.

What I need to do is some VCA but I'm not going to have the stamina or time to sift thru the thread and do that until the weekend at best.

[Skybird]

How are things going in your pt Pav?

[Pavowski]

It's quiet. Lot of chat during dawn before the main thread opened but little since.

Mostly Bowser calling Bell a towel and Bell not talking in the PT.

[Lukewarm]

We are mostly just shit talking Bell for refusing to post in the pt

[Lukewarm]

I tend to scumlean that behavior but a few people have said it points to town!Dunn.

My conclusion was that Dunn lurks as both alignments, and it is not a good way to read him either direction. When I ran the numbers, he was Extra lurky as town, BUT was in the lower quarter of players in almost every game I looked at, regardless of alignment.

[Pavowski]

I tend to scumlean that behavior but a few people have said it points to town!Dunn.

My conclusion was that Dunn lurks as both alignments, and it is not a good way to read him either direction. When I ran the numbers, he was Extra lurky as town, BUT was in the lower quarter of players in almost every game I looked at, regardless of alignment.

Now I remember you pointing this out earlier. God, I don't know if I'm ever joining a game this large again, I don't have a prayer of keeping everything straight.

[Icebox]

You guys really shouldn't post in neighborhoods unless forced to, it's just easier for scum to manipulate smaller crowds.
Both Bowser and Pav have shown inconsistency in their play between the neighborhood and in thread.

-Bell

[Lukewarm]

None of this includes mechanical stuff which I'm not fit to sort out.

My 2 cents on mechanical stuff:

-Skybird is 100% mech confirmed to be a Miltank due to Galron being tracked to them.

-Titus is Near confirmed (imo) as a Miltank because they were the only person to claim to be stolen from, and we know that the scum team could steal.

Spoiler:

I say "miltank" because neither one of their claims would preclude them from being 3rd party, so we just know they are Not Mafia - not necessarily mech town.

DV and Titus having such similar abilities is pretty +++ one of them veing scum, and given Titus's Miltank status is not a good look for DV.

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I have reservations for Child of Fairies mech status, but there is no point in looking at them until tomorrow.

Similarly, I feel like OTH might should be given one more day to try and kill someone.

But either one of these two not self resolving over night will be getting a microscope first thing Tomorrow.

[Lukewarm]

You guys really shouldn't post in neighborhoods unless forced to, it's just easier for scum to manipulate smaller crowds.
Both Bowser and Pav have shown inconsistency in their play between the neighborhood and in thread.

-Bell

Bell has also been very inconsistent between the main thread and the pt.

He is posting out here, but not in there smh

[Lukewarm]

Oh, also, I am aware that there are at least 3 people in his game with a neighborizor ability completely unrelated to the mass neighborizor'ing that happened for every based on their play, and I find it hard to believe that scum does not have at least one neighborizor ability. (Similar to the DV / Titus conundrum).

[Lukewarm]

Oh, also, I am aware that there are at least 3 people in his game with a neighborizor ability completely unrelated to the mass neighborizor'ing that happened for every based on their play, and I find it hard to believe that scum does not have at least one neighborizor ability. (Similar to the DV / Titus conundrum).

Probably keep that in mind if you are added to a PT by someone else tbh

[Pavowski]

I have reservations for Child of Fairies mech status, but there is no point in looking at them until tomorrow.

Similarly, I feel like OTH might should be given one more day to try and kill someone.

But either one of these two not self resolving over night will be getting a microscope first thing Tomorrow

Why do I get the feeling we could be in for a bloodbath tonight