How are those different my guy? You did not push Ico. Which seems to be why you can't explain your case quickly.In post 1223, Sleepless Assassin wrote:So it changed? A minute ago your issue was that I haven't been pushing Iconeum
I did. It's the one you quoted and the one I quoted.In post 1224, VP Baltar wrote:Yes, but I implore everyone to go read his ISO and see how many of those are of substance or pointing out things with scum motivation.
Doesn't it seem odd to you to hang on to a scum read for 50 pages with no change based upon that?In post 1229, Bingle wrote:I did. It's the one you quoted and the one I quoted.In post 1224, VP Baltar wrote:Yes, but I implore everyone to go read his ISO and see how many of those are of substance or pointing out things with scum motivation.
A push is trying to get people to vote there and you read my ISO so you clearly see me asking people to join me or for thoughts on Iconeum.In post 1225, VP Baltar wrote:How are those different my guy? You did not push Ico. Which seems to be why you can't explain your case quickly.In post 1223, Sleepless Assassin wrote:So it changed? A minute ago your issue was that I haven't been pushing Iconeum
Because it is not a real scum read.
A push is trying to get people to vote there and you read my ISO so you clearly see me asking people to join me or for thoughts on Iconeum.In post 1225, VP Baltar wrote:How are those different my guy? You did not push Ico. Which seems to be why you can't explain your case quickly.In post 1223, Sleepless Assassin wrote:So it changed? A minute ago your issue was that I haven't been pushing Iconeum
Because it is not a real scum read.
I've been pointing things out as they come up. His burst style posting made it rare, but my points are ones I truly believe in.In post 1232, Fun and Games wrote:I mean he does have other reads, i guess i'm just not convinced that the fact that he didnt reallh expound on the ico read makes him scum
Pedit ugh i think this is a tvt >.>
~ skitter
Lemme ask you this, who do you think has been pushing Ico more, you or Datisi?In post 1233, Sleepless Assassin wrote:I've been pointing things out as they come up. His burst style posting made it rare, but my points are ones I truly believe in.In post 1232, Fun and Games wrote:I mean he does have other reads, i guess i'm just not convinced that the fact that he didnt reallh expound on the ico read makes him scum
Pedit ugh i think this is a tvt >.>
~ skitter
Why would Ico's posting style affect your ability to push him?In post 1233, Sleepless Assassin wrote:His burst style posting made it rare, but my points are ones I truly believe in.
Because it isn't a real read. If you have a real read on someone, you don't need a bunch of time to articulate it. If you have a real read, you KNOW why you suspect someone. If you're scum and faking a read, you don't have that natural recall because you're making it up. You don't believe what you're saying in the game, and you're worried that if you shoot from the hip, you might have said something contradictory before.In post 1237, Fun and Games wrote:I guess i'm still not sure why 'not explaining his ico push more' -> 'scum-sa'
~ skitter
This exactly struck me as 'natural townie recall' - it sounrs like he really remembers how he felt at various points in the game, when i think scum probably wouldn't have thatIn post 1231, Sleepless Assassin wrote:Explained reasoning means you don't understand why I think he's scum. But you've read my ISO. So you know the original knee jerk "I've just read my Role PM and I'm gonna play this way" stuff you already quoted. You already know that I feel after he disappeared he avoided me after I voted him and tried to get people to join me. You already know that the fact that Dunn and Gamma wagons took off but Iconeum had verbal support without votes made me feel like he had buddies not wanting to vote him. And you already know I don't like his replacement coming in and talking down at his play.
Me.In post 1234, VP Baltar wrote:Lemme ask you this, who do you think has been pushing Ico more, you or Datisi?In post 1233, Sleepless Assassin wrote:I've been pointing things out as they come up. His burst style posting made it rare, but my points are ones I truly believe in.In post 1232, Fun and Games wrote:I mean he does have other reads, i guess i'm just not convinced that the fact that he didnt reallh expound on the ico read makes him scum
Pedit ugh i think this is a tvt >.>
~ skitter
I can't imagine it would. If you'd read my post you'd see I said his burst style posting made it rare that new things would come up.VP wrote: Why would Ico's posting style affect your ability to push him?
Hasn't it been like two years since I played a game? Lol.VP wrote: In both Micro 880 and Open 740, SA was town and quite liberally cast his vote around early in the game.
I'm making the point that you can't possibly be reading it and believing what you're saying. All I've done is push Iconeum to the point that you could accuse me of tunneling and I'd even argue that you've somewhat made that accusation. But at the same time you're saying I haven't pushed or haven't given reasons. So I gave you a chance to go back and look and see how hilariously wrong you are. But you didn't. So I gave a summary and now you're pretending it's not there.VP wrote: Town is easy to play because you don't have that worry hanging over your head. SA doesn't have that easy breezy feeling now. He's relying on "read my iso" to defend his position.
These are literally the things Bingle and I quoted him on. He didn't put this up when I asked him to make his Ico case.In post 1239, Fun and Games wrote:This exactly struck me as 'natural townie recall' - it sounrs like he really remembers how he felt at various points in the game, when i think scum probably wouldn't have that
Only looking at your most recent games. Didn't even look at the date on them. Still, why so stingy with your vote here?In post 1240, Sleepless Assassin wrote:Hasn't it been like two years since I played a game? Lol.
I mean sure but the way he wrote it looks to me like he has thay sense of 'I was doing x as a response/reaction to y' that town kinda viserally knows for having lived those thoughts and that scum tends to have trouble reconstructing in retrospectIn post 1241, VP Baltar wrote:These are literally the things Bingle and I quoted him on. He didn't put this up when I asked him to make his Ico case.In post 1239, Fun and Games wrote:This exactly struck me as 'natural townie recall' - it sounrs like he really remembers how he felt at various points in the game, when i think scum probably wouldn't have that
Because there was no reason to come off of my strongest scum read except the brief Gamma maybe being scum and being wagoned moment.In post 1243, VP Baltar wrote:Only looking at your most recent games. Didn't even look at the date on them. Still, why so stingy with your vote here?In post 1240, Sleepless Assassin wrote:Hasn't it been like two years since I played a game? Lol.
