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[Azaariah]

im feeling bad about the holiday townread now but i honestly cannot tell if that's just because april has me head over heels for them.

april scares me and im not sure why. i feel like they are a player that could easily pocket me and that's unsettling to me. im not willing to give a townread though i really want to.

From my perspective, you've flipped a read on me without explaining, and saying you're feeling bad, because you're head over heels for a player you're scared of and don't want to townread?

yep that sums it up well! it's part of the reason im paranoid of april actually - the fact that they are making me question my townread on you. your unvote also came at an unfortunate time and now things are just working out like this.

You do realize how little sense this makes from my perspective, right?

Like, in less words what this feels like to me is: "You do not townread me anymore, so now I am going to question you."

i townread people who are voting me and people who have stated they are okay voting me. your point is null.

[osuka]

osuka - idk

good analysis

[Holiday]

Okay, so then do you actually like April's scumread on me?

From what I understand of it, it's literally that they like what I post and I'm a bit more background-y, so I'm top scum. And people dislike that read/pressure around me, so it's a good sign (even though... I think most people townread or lean me to some degree? Not everyone, but more than not do.)

Maybe I'm more exasperated at her for throwing out something that I physically just throw my hands up at because it doesn't compute. To me it's either honestly, an ego-driven read to catch a "deepwolf" that doesn't exist or scum (which... I did say I had bad feelings about April before they doubled down on me being their top scumread). Both are very shitty situations.

[Holiday]

Like I'm exasperated that I even have to contend with a read like this because it's formatted in a way that I can't, because there's nothing to it. It's wispy nothingness. It's meant to be nothingness.

[Gamma Emerald]

ok i feel bad putting hella jeff in that floating in space category but so many people keep saying we need to look at him that i am genuinely paranoid and wondering if this is just one of my blind spots in this game. i dont know what to do about that so im just leaving it be and staying away.

I kinda feel like it’s weird that I’m there but my own reads are kinda spacey

i dont know how to read you. one side of me thinks that scum wouldn't want to be on my wagon but the other side thinks that a little extra pressure makes my elim today more possible. i cant choose so you're just floating in outer space for now.

Whatever I do as scum I try to be decisive about it
Not exactly saying you should TR me, just giving you the tip

[Azaariah]

no i dont like aprils scum read's reasons. the idea of it is what i like.

you're top scum? where in my reads list does it say that???

[Holiday]

/April called me top scum./

[osuka]

well maybe i do scum read t3. but i feel that way with just about everyone considering me as a possibility today. it's annoying that there are no actual reasons to be pushing me.
geraint says "one naughty point for you for jumping from one failed wagon to another" which is ??? given my aggressive pushes, you really think i would've just given up or you think im afraid to be 1v1ing? the aggressive pushes just dont come from scum but even if they did, they mean i am playing the risky game. then why would i hold back? andante is still a very real mislim option and i had built up a lot on them. even more, i decide to post a huge post about why andante needs to die even as town right before a 180 shift to a townread and a completely retracted push? make that make sense.

osuka says "fuck this shit your shit doesn't make fucking sense" no logic, no actual progression. just cuss words and rudeness. i dont know what im even supposed to say. the posts are long but they end up saying nothing at the end of the day except "azar is so scummy. they are so scummy. they dont make sense. they are scum" there's nothing else.

t3 says "you're not reading my explanations and shading my two sentence long reads list" calling t3's poe bad is not scummy. that was the whole reason and prior to this, there was no read on me. the last thing close to a read was t3 agreeing with everything i said on andante and voting andante while they were at e-2 or something similar. if t3 is town, it doesn't make sense for me to be scum so the whole push is just ??? if i were scum, i definitely could've gotten them quick hammered. is that risky play? yes but if im scum, isn't that exactly what i've been doing anyways?

the whole wagon on me is really just one sentence reasonings that don't honestly make that much logical sense. despite my andante push being wrong, every point was explained and hashed out whereas here the longest explanations are osukas and they dont really say anything.

piss poor

"maybe" you scumread t3? "maybe" you feel that way with "just about" everyone considering you as a possibility? is this mass omgus?

you're downplaying an actual push on the basis of nothing because there are, yes, actual reasons to push you, some of which ive outlined. the fact that you can't extract meaning from words doesn't mean the meaning isn't there - that's neither my problem nor my concern, really, and if you truly wanted to understand to properly argue against and/or dismiss, you'd ask instead of just posting this sad attempt at deflection

[Azaariah]

Like I'm exasperated that I even have to contend with a read like this because it's formatted in a way that I can't, because there's nothing to it. It's wispy nothingness. It's meant to be nothingness.

think what you want. this isn't even a hard read either way. im simply saying that i now have paranoia on you but you're acting like i just moved you to the confscum category. i dont understand.

[Holiday]

Holiday

- i forget about them, and i generally like what they say. This is actually a red flag. This is probably gonna be my highest scum read right now, but honestly, none of my deeper scum reads are that strong. I think scum is playing it safe, as I said with that Andante a bit back.

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Is Flavor gonna end up being able to explain that Holiday read more?!?!?

This is what she said about me to label me her top scumread.

[Azaariah]

mass omgus?

yeah

[Holiday]

Like I'm exasperated that I even have to contend with a read like this because it's formatted in a way that I can't, because there's nothing to it. It's wispy nothingness. It's meant to be nothingness.

think what you want. this isn't even a hard read either way. im simply saying that i now have paranoia on you but you're acting like i just moved you to the confscum category. i dont understand.

I'm exasperated that you've tied this even a little bit to April because I thought I could ignore a read that amounts to a read without real reason but it felt like you were putting a pin in what April said like, yep, this is better.

It's just a very frustrating happening in the game.

[Azaariah]

i dislike aprils read but that doesn't mean i cant agree with the conclusion or consider it. and either way this is exactly what i've felt about the reads on me for the majority of the game so welcome to the world of shitty reasons. be grateful people are cussing you out for no reason in every post.

[Azaariah]

*aren't

[Holiday]

Sorry if I am taking my frustration out on you but the sort of things that I can't rebuttal or dialogue on are the things that make this game the most unpleasant for me to post in, and I just felt like your backtrack on me was being tied to nothingness.

[Holiday]

I would rather be directly attacked because that's /substantial/ and I can actually reply to it. Genuinely.

[osuka]

Look, I briefly skimmed this morning, saw Jeff claiming miller? and I wanted clarification there, that's really the only reason I even posted, I don't recall any of your recent lines tbh

informed miller, fullclaiming
i am informed that Andante is in the game

they had us in the first half, coach

[Azaariah]

well fuck my reads lists now i think you're town again. i hate myself sometimes. why do i just write my unfiltered thoughts in games like this where i always get scum read for doing exactly that? i dont know at this point.

[osuka]

reveal yourself

Dude, not cool.
It's not up to you to decide that.

i dont know if this is a joke but if it isn't, then should i just make a couple different alts every day and start posting on them? the rules are there for a reason

[osuka]

Dude, not cool.
It's not up to you to decide that.

He's talking about the alt slip. I don't think he got to the point where Aza claimed it yet.

i hadn't

[Azaariah]

Sorry if I am taking my frustration out on you but the sort of things that I can't rebuttal or dialogue on are the things that make this game the most unpleasant for me to post in, and I just felt like your backtrack on me was being tied to nothingness.

I would rather be directly attacked because that's /substantial/ and I can actually reply to it. Genuinely.

i shouldn't be posting this but my honest thoughts are just why are you even complaining? this has happened to so many other people in this game. there is essentially no pressure on you and you're in an okay position. and that frustrates me because it makes me feel like a bad person but im annoyed

[osuka]

as of page 47, a50 is no longer in my exec pool for d1

gameing

explain

[osuka]

the read itself isn't persuasive. in fact i actually dont like the arguments but i feel like it probably comes from town which gives it more credibility to me.

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[osuka]

it doesn't make sense, therefore it's town? what the fuck am i reading? have i finally truly lost my mind? what is reality? is this all a dream?

[osuka]

if april didn't scum read you, i wouldn't question it most likely. whether or not that is entirely true, i cannot be sure but i do feel that is true so it does have to do with them.

let me see if i have this straight: you're afraid of april pocketing you or something, so you're not quite townreading that slot or you are but don't want to, and yet you're sheeping the slot's fucking reads? is that right?