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[Something_Smart]

Can we just burn that entire last page in a fire

[Azaariah]

what if we just burn the entire osuka slot instead?
VOTE: osuka

[Hella Jeff]

what the fuck does gameing mean

What the hell is "gameing"
I only know about gaming. Like some real gamer shit.

game-ing

Can we just burn that entire last page in a fire

mafiascummers stop shitting on eachother challenge for things that can be solved with just 1 hour and 16 minutes of spare time (impossible)

[osuka]

Sometimes you withhold reads that don’t feel constructive, like unfounded paranoia

like filtering yourself is on a spectrum right? it’s not a discrete classification, there are levels to it and there are levels that i would say are damaging (too much noise?) and others that i think are scummy (too opaque?)

in any case i don’t see norwe’s point here - i understand it but it doesn’t make sense because it’s self-contradictory

[osuka]

what if we just burn the entire osuka slot instead?
VOTE: osuka

what if you reply intelligently to what i’ve said? i can keep doing this all day, you’ll have to do a lot worse than that to get under my skin

[osuka]

you’re dismissing my push on the basis of me being an ass, which is completely invalid because even if i am being a complete ass, the points being made are completely independent from the person making them

[osuka]

i’m not gonna lay off this until the slot properly responds to the push by the way

[Azaariah]

what if we just burn the entire osuka slot instead?
VOTE: osuka

what if you reply intelligently to what i’ve said? i can keep doing this all day, you’ll have to do a lot worse than that to get under my skin

what if you grew some eq cells?

[Azaariah]

vig should just vig osuka tonight. or vig me. i dont care i dont wish to be in the nearby vicinity of a toxic player.

[NorwegianboyEE]

game-ing

Ah yes, now i still don’t understand what that means.

Thank you.

[Gamma Emerald]

Sometimes you withhold reads that don’t feel constructive, like unfounded paranoia

like filtering yourself is on a spectrum right? it’s not a discrete classification, there are levels to it and there are levels that i would say are damaging (too much noise?) and others that i think are scummy (too opaque?)

in any case i don’t see norwe’s point here - i understand it but it doesn’t make sense because it’s self-contradictory

Self-contradictory how

[NorwegianboyEE]

Btw i LOVE the ongoing meme of 1 hour and 16 minutes.

Just wanted to say that.

[Gamma Emerald]

game-ing

Ah yes, now i still don’t understand what that means.

Thank you.

It’s literally just gaming spelled differantly

[NorwegianboyEE]

as of page 47, a50 is no longer in my exec pool for d1

gameing

explain

you think the funky monkey is town, and i think that's pretty
gameing

Well that just makes me more confused.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’m going to assume it’s some joke i’m not getting as an cultured non-American.

[Gamma Emerald]

HJ literally mispells words as part of his gimmikc

[NorwegianboyEE]

I know that.
What i’m asking is why is HJ saying: "gaming" in reply to Osuka’s post?

[Hella Jeff]

I know that.
What i’m asking is why is HJ saying: "gaming" in reply to Osuka’s post?

i guess in that context i used it as a shortened version of "pro-gaming?" a50's one of my most confident townreads and i don't care whatever method you use, if you grab that same townread then you're super good, awesome and cool at the game like Hella Jeff

[Hella Jeff]

But the way i solve is to find out which players are trying to solve and which players are doing so genuinely.
If you do not do these things then i cannot read you as town. Thus i will push you, that's how i work.

dumb take

also used to think this until 1432
before that it felt like norwee was deliberately using it to mimic how they solve as town so that they could use it to justify a mislim on someone that this way of sorting definitely doesn't work on nowadays. now that i know that there's layers to it i don't care that much

[NorwegianboyEE]

There’s another reason why Azaariah is very town on this page.

[Hella Jeff]

Ok, but to be fair that initial T3 wagon was RVS, people unvoted once they were like "ahhh e-2" and trying to say anything about the first rvs wagon?? It doesn't mean a lot, only useful for seeing how the person reacts,
[snip] -HJ

oh t3 wagon didn't feel like RVS for sure, i think both people i cased had reactions to the case that the thread was split on and that was pretty fine for like, page 5 reads

Vote Count 1.0.1


T3 (5) Dwlee99, osuka, Hella Jeff, NorwegianboyEE, Gamma Emerald [E-2]
Gamma Emerald (2) Holiday, geraintm
Andante (1) Azaariah
Hella Jeff (1) Almost50

Not Voting (13) Andante, T3, April Ludgate, Something_Smart

Deadline: (expired on 2021-11-22 18:17:16)

Mod Notes:
VC is done by hand. Please let me know if I mess something up.

NorwegianboyEE replaces Free Spirit.

what.

i want to say that T3 not really caring that they were at E-2 earlygame, then getting really pissed when someone mentioned them at E-1 (which ended up being false) leans town? but excuse my hedginess

Hella Jeff and Norwegian derailed the T3 wagon.

Then the Andante wagon started up. Norwegian/T3 started, but they also backed off.

Then T3 hops onto azaar.

Interesting, there is a lot of circulation around T3.

i have no idea why i marked this post for myself i dont have anything to say to it except for "true"
someone teach me how to improve my memory

It’s literally just gaming spelled differantly

gamma locktown

on an unrelated note,
i remember thinking there was a lot to osuka's 944 which made me kinda bothered when a couple of people were like "azaariah voters are shallow"
still think there is a lot, just slightly less than i thought; maybe the cursing fluffed it up and made it look stronger than it was
one of my gripes is this quote:

i have so many questions from this post. why are you saying andante has to be vt or scum? that's a reach. why are you saying andante's flip is bad if you're scum? that puts pressure on you? that's nothing you can't deflect if you're good enough at it. if i'm scum, i'll take that trade and honestly a good scum player can get out of much, much worse than that.

i think the way you've been treating them makes me feel like you don't believe them to be that excellent of a mafia (alignment.) player. therefore, wouldn't you think the azaa slot to be slightly townier when they note that an andante greenflip would give them a lot of trouble? because i feel like from your perspective it would make a good bit of sense that "how much conflict they're creating is outside of their scumrange" is a valid consideration

have you seriously never seen scum do dumb shit? have you really never seen scum do shit that _looks_ dumb just so that we're having this exact conversation?

and yeah you've dived into this topic before. do you have any games where scum basically buried themselves to this extent?

[MegAzumarill]

Azaariah is being replaced. Deadline is frozen and will resume when a replacement is found

Reminder of this rule:
¤ Replacements- Speculating reasons by a player replacing out is against the rules.

[osuka]

Ok, but to be fair that initial T3 wagon was RVS, people unvoted once they were like "ahhh e-2" and trying to say anything about the first rvs wagon?? It doesn't mean a lot, only useful for seeing how the person reacts,
[snip] -HJ

oh t3 wagon didn't feel like RVS for sure, i think both people i cased had reactions to the case that the thread was split on and that was pretty fine for like, page 5 reads

Vote Count 1.0.1


T3 (5) Dwlee99, osuka, Hella Jeff, NorwegianboyEE, Gamma Emerald [E-2]
Gamma Emerald (2) Holiday, geraintm
Andante (1) Azaariah
Hella Jeff (1) Almost50

Not Voting (13) Andante, T3, April Ludgate, Something_Smart

Deadline: (expired on 2021-11-22 18:17:16)

Mod Notes:
VC is done by hand. Please let me know if I mess something up.

NorwegianboyEE replaces Free Spirit.

what.

i want to say that T3 not really caring that they were at E-2 earlygame, then getting really pissed when someone mentioned them at E-1 (which ended up being false) leans town? but excuse my hedginess

Hella Jeff and Norwegian derailed the T3 wagon.

Then the Andante wagon started up. Norwegian/T3 started, but they also backed off.

Then T3 hops onto azaar.

Interesting, there is a lot of circulation around T3.

i have no idea why i marked this post for myself i dont have anything to say to it except for "true"
someone teach me how to improve my memory

It’s literally just gaming spelled differantly

gamma locktown

on an unrelated note,
i remember thinking there was a lot to osuka's 944 which made me kinda bothered when a couple of people were like "azaariah voters are shallow"
still think there is a lot, just slightly less than i thought; maybe the cursing fluffed it up and made it look stronger than it was
one of my gripes is this quote:

i have so many questions from this post. why are you saying andante has to be vt or scum? that's a reach. why are you saying andante's flip is bad if you're scum? that puts pressure on you? that's nothing you can't deflect if you're good enough at it. if i'm scum, i'll take that trade and honestly a good scum player can get out of much, much worse than that.

i think the way you've been treating them makes me feel like you don't believe them to be that excellent of a mafia (alignment.) player. therefore, wouldn't you think the azaa slot to be slightly townier when they note that an andante greenflip would give them a lot of trouble? because i feel like from your perspective it would make a good bit of sense that "how much conflict they're creating is outside of their scumrange" is a valid consideration

have you seriously never seen scum do dumb shit? have you really never seen scum do shit that _looks_ dumb just so that we're having this exact conversation?

and yeah you've dived into this topic before. do you have any games where scum basically buried themselves to this extent?

my point is that they didn’t bury themselves that bad, but they’re pretending to have done so. aza is sitting there going “would scum have done that???” while pretending like they would never have gotten out of that when any good mafia player could’ve done so. i have no reason to believe that’s outside of their scum range, so really i do believe they could’ve pulled that and reasonably gotten away with it

[osuka]

disclaimer: i am very drunk. ask me any questions you want answered honestly, you have just about an hour before i go the fuck to sleep

[geraintm]

Only an hour? Could have gone at least.....16minutes longer couldn't you?