Open 836: Pick Your Poison (Game Over)

[Something_Smart]

VC 1.10

Dunnstral (4)- DArby, Gamma Emerald, Datisi, VP Baltar
DArby (3)- Sleepless Assassin, PenguinPower, Fun and Games
Gamma Emerald (2)- Almost50, Bingle
Fun and Games (2)- SirCakez, Enchant
Not_Mafia (1)- Not_Mafia

Not voting (1)- Dunnstral

With 13 alive it takes 7 to reach a majority.

Deadline is in (expired on 2021-11-23 23:00:00)

Mod notes: deadline will freeze at 24 hours if there are pending replacements. please try to post from the correct account (and quote any posts from the wrong account asap)

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

why

this game isnt mountainous duh

[Gamma Emerald]

okay
ngl I was tempted to try to hammer and that’s my biggest reservation to doing that

[Sleepless Assassin]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: DArby

Feel like this is going to be the most informative yeet and I'm bored with this day.

What would you get if I flipped either alignment?

I think if you flip town, it probably puts SA in a worse light in particular. I'd also want to look at your wagon composition over time and see who was pushing it without being super committed.

If you flip scum, that's a whole other ball of yarn to untangle, and I probably won't tip my hand at this point ahead of a night kill.

The good news with your flip is that lots of people have interacted with Ico or talked a good amount about him, so there are connections to look at there.

You said I didn't push Iconeum enough and now if he flips town I get what looks like the "town should always be right on Day 1 hard pushes" treatment?

I also don't like holding onto what you think if he flips scum. I understand if it's just not where you want to put your energy on Day 1. But if you're town who is holding onto it to avoid being NKd, those thoughts dying with you if they're really as accurate as you seem to think, is worse than losing you as a player in this game. Of course if you're scum, disregard

[Sleepless Assassin]

Then if it’s meta, I can’t argue for or against. For now I’ll trust it.

VOTE: Dunn

I thought I remembered you townreading Dunn but can't find it in your ISO so maybe I was just wrong. Or thinking of your read on Gamma and confusing it.

[Datisi]

why

this game isnt mountainous duh

why is pooky posting from main

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i dont have my hydra password stored on my phone

[Datisi]

oh okay i got scared skitter replaced out

carry on

[Almost50]

Can we not speedlim b4 we get a replacement pls

Sure! After all, we still have (expired on 2021-11-23 22:59:00) before we hammer someone else.

[VP Baltar]

Can we not speedlim b4 we get a replacement pls

Sure! After all, we still have (expired on 2021-11-23 22:59:00) before we hammer someone else.

A50 scared of the Dunn flip.

[Datisi]

VOTE: dunn

UNVOTE:
VOTE: dunn

Let's do it

Then if it’s meta, I can’t argue for or against. For now I’ll trust it.

VOTE: Dunn

this is p much the same wagon that was on dunn earlier in the day

i have feelings about it but i don't know what they are

[VP Baltar]

But if you're town who is holding onto it to avoid being NKd, those thoughts dying with you if they're really as accurate as you seem to think, is worse than losing you as a player in this game.

Why in the world should I spill info now that helps scum plan? I don't think my thoughts are more valuable than anyone else's, so if I die, oh well. I'm certainly not going to give up info that helps scum play off my own speculation in the case it is wrong.

[VP Baltar]

VOTE: dunn

UNVOTE:
VOTE: dunn

Let's do it

Then if it’s meta, I can’t argue for or against. For now I’ll trust it.

VOTE: Dunn

this is p much the same wagon that was on dunn earlier in the day

i have feelings about it but i don't know what they are

I have feelings about you starting a wagon and immediately shading it

[Datisi]

this is MY wagon and i am not sharing it

[Gamma Emerald]

Datisi probably town lol

[Datisi]

so the secret to getting townread really is shitposting, huh

[Gamma Emerald]

Nah it’s because I had the same thought of “hm there’s an interesting correlation of the Dunn voters” I just had a different point of comparison I used

[Fun and Games]

Can we not speedlim b4 we get a replacement pls

why

this game isnt mountainous duh

i dont have my hydra password stored on my phone

>.>

~ skitter

[Fun and Games]

:/

How is this towny recall? Not a big fan of this read from you. It seems poorly defined and elusive, like you're trying to justify a townread as opposed to actually thinking SA is towny.

I dont know how to explain it further, the way he worded it felt very townie to me

I call pooky in the divorce. No offense skitter, but he brings me more interesting setups to review.

>.>

~ skitter

[Fun and Games]

dats you look more and more aligned with ico/darby >.>

~ skitter

:/

i think i am Interested in knowing what that post called for a :/

skitter seems really invested in the narrative of a you/ico scumteam which seems really unlikely from where I sit. I actually think that skitter has worse associations with Ico than you do, and the repeated attempts to paint you as S/S is a big red flag for me. I've explained a couple of times why I think you're not partnered (spoilered below) and she drops the issue, but it keeps coming up again and I don't understand the thought process at all.

Spoiler:

Fair enuf!

what are your present thoughts on gamma and penguin?
(And i would ask abt ico/dats as well but i believe u said u were waiting there)

~ skitter

I think gamma is scum. Basically I’m getting the feeling that he’s trying to present the thread in a certain way. Particularly the post when he said my “objection” to A50s meta tell was relevant seemed manipulative.

Pengy hasn’t really been doing anything but isn’t getting a lot of attention. I think if baltar is scum they have a lot of equity together, but I’m also townreading baltar so I’m not super worried there atm.

I think you’re wrong about ico/dats being S/S. Making the ico read this drawn out seems like a weird way to go for dats if they’re buddies. They’d have to know that the longer they drew it out the worse it would look if they failed to produce results and it’s not like one of them would die conveniently over the night at some point to prevent the need for a grand reveal or follow through. Unfortunately, I could easily see either of them being scum at this point: dats leaning on ico being absent to not have to engage as much is a tinfoil I have, and there’s just a whole lot of nothing from ico.

bingle, do you think i'm purposefully not engaging with this game? like, do you genuinely have a problem with the amount of content i've had so far?

Do I think you haven’t posted enough? No. Do I think the amount/content of what you’ve posted makes you town? Also no. Do I think focusing on ico when you did was a convenient way to produce content that scum you could take advantage of? Yes. Do I think that town you wouldn’t have focused on ico there? No, although that’s more based on how skitter is treating your ability to read ico than firsthand knowledge of your ability with him.

I agree that you’d probably have a more nuanced read/plan by now if you/ico was S/S though.

Tbf the thing that i most recently said abt ico/dats is that after dats explained his approach/his cakez vote, i actually felt that universe was less likely

~ skitter

[Fun and Games]

Out of dunn/ico/gamma dunn is my least favorite vote, and we should get a replacement before we flip him

~ skitter

[VP Baltar]

Out of dunn/ico/gamma dunn is my least favorite vote, and we should get a replacement before we flip him

~ skitter

Why? Also, I don't think Gamma is really on the table today

[Fun and Games]

i think the other 2 are worse than dunn, and i'm p sure that gamma is viable today

~ skitter

[Datisi]

can i get a simple explanation of why gamma is scum that's more than "not solvey" because i am not in the mood to be rereading a full iso to be trying to figure that out

[Gamma Emerald]

It kinda feels like you’re coasting rn Datisi
That’s like the third time you’ve asked about a slot like that.