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Post Post #7350 (ISO) » Sat Nov 20, 2021 12:56 pm

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Post Post #7351 (ISO) » Sat Nov 20, 2021 12:56 pm

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In post 7343, Taly wrote:
Gammagooey wrote:
In post 7337, Taly wrote:I do understand you better
Ggy
but that doesn't change my case on your accusation being in congruent to what you would otherwise know.

But yeah I get you.
Obv I don't expect you to change your mind completely, but can you give like a 1-2 sentence summary of what you think the leap of logic is that I made that I couldn't have made as town? As far as I can tell it's just
"But I wanted to sort Saber directly this phase." (from you) -> "
I think you prevented the Saber nom
" (from me). The wrong assumption by me that skitter was pushing harder on Saber than any of her other reads and the mention of Toog being willing to sheep either you or skitter also pushed me harder in that direction, but I don't see why you'd think it's impossible to come from town, even if you think it's more likely to come from scum.
Nope. You can't backtrack this.
In post 6891, Gammagooey wrote:I'm not going to get past your play in regards to the pink PT and how you prevented a Saber nomination that scum was pushing for
Your post here didn't convey that you
"you thought"
it was framed as a strongly believed assumption.

And yes, I still find it hard to believe it comes from town even with the context, because you built a case that I'm scum without actually validating your suspicion for doing so when you could've.

And let's still assume that everybody was sold on a
Saber
nom, I alone couldn't have gatekeeped that because I wasn't voting at the Pink PT's conclusion to counteract that nor was I an advocate for
Peta
, who
Skitter
was voting.

And let's also dive into the hypothetical that
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was voting
Saber
and wanted her to be nom'd, why would there be an S/S theatre for
Skitter/I
to disagree on a bus and then it never be brought up again?
The window for checking how valid the case was without guesswork kinda closed when Ulya died, and I thought it was more likely that you were just town before Heaven/Hell happened. There's no way for me to verify that what you're saying is true in regards to it, and though you're probably keeping the majority of it truthful even if you're scum, there is/would be an opportunity to change some details to either make yourself look better or discredit what I'm saying about the Pink PT - once you were the only person left from Pink it has to be assumptions and guesswork based on previous descriptions for me to figure out what happened there - like I don't know if you're telling the truth in saying that skitter never voted Saber, or that you forgot that you said that skitter was campaigning for her and had to add to your description of the Pink PT after the fact.

My best guess of what happened was infinity+skitter were pushing for Saber, Ulya was pushing Cakez as she mentioned, Dwlee was willing to follow you based on his posting on you two pocketing each other, Toog had a townread on skitter+you and would follow either (again based on his posting about the Pink PT in the main thread) and you weren't sure of who to vote but said something like "I think Saber usually does X as scum and hasn't done it yet" or "Saber usually loses momentum/does Y+Z after a scum lynch if she's scum, I want to see how she acts during the next event" and then at least partially because you were influential but not solid on any particular wagon, just solid on wagons you didn't want to happen, the Pink PT wagons mostly fell apart and wound up with the peta nom, you not voting, and the rest of the votes being scattered. And also at least one or two people wanted Ydrasse to be the nom based on someone saying that they thought Ydrasse was the only other wagon they thought could have happened in Pink PT at the end.

p-edit: hey the worst, I have like 2 more sentences to type up to Taly and then I'll be good

@Taly - thanks for slowing down and talking with me a bit, it was a welcome relief from the rest of this event and I appreciate it.
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Post Post #7352 (ISO) » Sat Nov 20, 2021 1:01 pm

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np, I still think it's
Ggy
but it's good to get some dialogue on that front here.

I don't know. It just comes down to how you think wolf!me plays. I'm not the mastermind strategist people say I am, as scum, I'd probably not have waited to give details about the Pink PT so I can have
"witnesses to deem me as correct."


That's a tenet of my play that got me wide-eyed when
TW
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I'm just an articulate individual and it comes across as a
"oh shit I don't want to face this being a scum player"
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Post Post #7353 (ISO) » Sat Nov 20, 2021 1:02 pm

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I'm a townie with playstyle traits that scum players need to succeed, minus the rare-but-present inclination to martyr.
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Post Post #7354 (ISO) » Sat Nov 20, 2021 1:05 pm

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In post 7343, Taly wrote: And let's also dive into the hypothetical that
Skitter
was voting
Saber
and wanted her to be nom'd, why would there be an S/S theatre for
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to disagree on a bus and then it never be brought up again?
It would just be so that Saber/Skitter look less likely to be scum partners, while still making sure that Saber doesn't actually become a possible nomination and elim a scum member (I do think she would have been elim'd over Infinity). I feel like the scumteam's position would have been a more precarious during the crossing and they would have wanted to stop mentioning each other as much as possible scum then, but off the top of my head the main reason I have for that is "because I suspected and was pushing scum at the time" so maybe that's a dumb opinion for me to have.

anyway, thanks again for the chill convo. may you find peace and good dogs in whatever afterlife lies beyond heaven & hell Taly
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Post Post #7355 (ISO) » Sat Nov 20, 2021 1:08 pm

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:D

It's kind of funny how
Unwnd
said something to the effect that I was close to perfect and my game until Event 2 suited scum better.

I took that as a glowing compliment off of how little information I had.
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Post Post #7356 (ISO) » Sat Nov 20, 2021 1:09 pm

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In post 7350, Taly wrote:
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i laughed. I hate it.
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Post Post #7357 (ISO) » Sat Nov 20, 2021 1:10 pm

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noooo i’m so small i’m just a little guy just a little dude here aha you wouldn’t yeet me look at me
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Post Post #7358 (ISO) » Sat Nov 20, 2021 1:10 pm

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LMFAO yup
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Post Post #7359 (ISO) » Sat Nov 20, 2021 1:10 pm

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Yeah, this game is the epitome of me playing at my best and my worst.
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Post Post #7360 (ISO) » Sat Nov 20, 2021 1:11 pm

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I feel like ydra allowing us to beetlejuice her should mean something but mostly its just funny atp
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Post Post #7361 (ISO) » Sat Nov 20, 2021 1:12 pm

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11 more posts until 1000 guys!
the worst wrote:I feel like ydra allowing us to beetlejuice her should mean something but mostly its just funny atp
well thats definitely not my problem anymore
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Post Post #7362 (ISO) » Sat Nov 20, 2021 1:13 pm

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Post Post #7363 (ISO) » Sat Nov 20, 2021 1:14 pm

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In post 7361, Taly wrote:11 more posts until 1000 guys!
the worst wrote:I feel like ydra allowing us to beetlejuice her should mean something but mostly its just funny atp
well thats definitely not my problem anymore
:clap:
no plz this is already too many im gonna drown

too many pooostssssss
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Post Post #7364 (ISO) » Sat Nov 20, 2021 1:14 pm

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TOO LATE
GGY
, I WILL DROWN ALL OF US IN DOGS
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Post Post #7365 (ISO) » Sat Nov 20, 2021 1:16 pm

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down to wait til taly dog gifs up to 1k posts
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Post Post #7366 (ISO) » Sat Nov 20, 2021 1:17 pm

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the worst wrote:down to wait til taly dog gifs up to 1k posts
YOU CRACKED IT!!

EACH NEW POST GETS A DOG GIF

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Post Post #7367 (ISO) » Sat Nov 20, 2021 1:17 pm

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mostly because there's this little deranged voice at the back of my consciousness whispering that he could still be scum!!!! and I think it'd be really funny if that voice was right and we saw the game out with the scum carry posting doggo gifs
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Post Post #7368 (ISO) » Sat Nov 20, 2021 1:18 pm

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i just got back from watching arcane please... pleas...e...
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Post Post #7369 (ISO) » Sat Nov 20, 2021 1:18 pm

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hehehehehehehehehehehe

THIS WAS MY PLAN THE WHOLE GAME

DIE DOG GIFFING
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Post Post #7370 (ISO) » Sat Nov 20, 2021 1:19 pm

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cutieeeeee
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Post Post #7372 (ISO) » Sat Nov 20, 2021 1:19 pm

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Post Post #7373 (ISO) » Sat Nov 20, 2021 1:20 pm

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lmao
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Post Post #7374 (ISO) » Sat Nov 20, 2021 1:21 pm

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you dropped this king
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