Alright, time for the readslist I promised (a bit later than I said, but it's okay
) ! Here's the system I use:
AsuStuckey [/]
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44 doesn't seem AI to me, I suppose
165 looks slightly good just because some of the questions Asu asked in it could've just been asked in the mafia thread if they're maf, but I don't think it means too much. We have 2 posts to go off of, so I don't feel strongly on this slot.
Cape90 [/T]
~ Cape's general tone feels good early.
15 gives off laid back townie energy,
16 feels like it's trying to progress the game and so does
27 and
37. Kinda hard to put into exact words but I just can't picture mafia making these posts?
53 is an okay post and I don't have a hard time believing Cape thought of voting for Meg before they were brought up. However, with Cape basing the reads on the way Meg and I both approach the game; it feels a bit more like it could be easily manufactured by mafia than other reads that have been put out. I think mafia have an easier time faking reads based on people's playstyles and the way they fundamentally view the game than on things like tone, so I could see mafia Cape make that post.
I don't really like
82, once again it's focused on stuff like "should we pressure inactives?" instead of reads and I don't think it furthered the game much.
"55 - At least 1 scum has spoken by this point and that is a fact. And that last line scares me and justifies my vote on you, thanks!"
really rubs me the wrong way and what Cape says there is inaccurate, at post 55, it wasn't confirmed that a mafia had spoken but Cape makes it sound like it. The way Cape responds to Meg's
64 feels opportunistic and rooted in confirmation bias. It feels like Cape's actively looking for extra reason to cast suspicion on Meg instead of actually trying to make his read more accurate. Could come from town, but more often comes from scum.
147,
149 and
152 all don't feel too productive.
152 once again feels like Cape is misrepresenting events, as Marci wasn't "trying to get Greeting in on the action", Greeting's the one who asked for her to throw out a name, she was prompted to by him in the first place.
These posts are followed by more productive content soon after, so it doesn't feel like Cape made those 3 posts just to have content out there and then leave.
155 feels pretty good, although Cape's criticism of Prohawk's
125 feels a bit weird with him just having made
149, which to me is a very similar post. It is true though that Prohawk in a general sense has been less helpful than Cape, however.
156 is a good post, feels relevant and someone actively trying to be useful.
183 I also like, can't see scum post that, really.
187 is a good point, neat.
Cape's early and later posts I tend to like, but the ones in the middle are a bit odd to me, so leantown is how I feel at this point.
Greeting [T]
~ I definitely needed to take another look at Greeting since the bulk of my read on him lied on only 2 of his 33 posts. Nothing from Greeting sticks out to me until
46. At first that post seemed weird to me and I was wondering why he was responding seriously when Marci didn't seem entirely serious, but why would scum do so? It's an aggressive play that furthers discussion and I kind of like it.
The entire interaction at
48 feels townie on Greeting's end.
51 and
54, the posts that made me scumread him in the first place. The focus on hammer distance feels much less weird with the whole secret plan thing Greeting apparently had planned and honestly I think I believe it. Both of those posts make sense with the idea of Greeting trying some sort of secret plan to get information, and I have no clue why Greeting would be doing something so clearly sneaky and aggressive as scum here. The main thing I still do dislike about that sequence of posts is how Greeting states clearly he townreads Cape before voting for Meg. It still feels off to me and doesn't tie into the whole secret plan thing (or at least I don't think so?)
91 feels genuine and not anything scum would be attempting here.
116 is weird, but probably is some sort of way Greeting is trying to get more information out of his wagon on Meg.
The tone of
122 feels bad, although I could see it come from an annoyed townie not really sure why they're being pushed in the first place (which is supported by
120 and
123)
126 feels annoyed more than nervous which is something I like. I can very much see town!Greeting make this post. The bit about Meg's vote specifically I find reads very much like something a townie would be writing.
130 seems to involve some amount of miscommunication as I've already said. Aside from that, Greeting's still displaying annoyance at me that's consistent with the tone he's adapting. He doesn't feel my vote's justified and he doesn't feel like I'm addressing his questions properly. It's a decent post.
131 I like him mentioning the wagon again and promising results, just feels more so as if he truly had good intentions in starting the wagon.
141's a bit weird but I don't mind too much I guess.
143 is still maintaining trying to understand why he's being pushed because of how he feels it's unjustified and unexplained. Once again, it's focused on understanding the suspicions before making a defense. It just looks townie to me.
154 is fine.
161 and
164 are posts I could see come from either alignment, Greeting could be maf here trying to just make Meg look dumb, or it could just once again be an extension of annoyance at the wagon on him.
181 makes sense with what Greeting's posted before.
The tone of Greeting's posts after being pushed I suppose could be from annoyed scum, but I think is more likely coming from town feeling he's being pushed for baseless reasons and that this wagon on him is ruining the results he was trying to get earlier from his push earlier.
On a reread, Greeting's content before the posts that I disliked leans towards town, the posts I don't like are neutral I suppose and everything after leans towards town, so that's where my read is at this point. Maybe since I was rereading and was already scumreading him, it caused me to look for townie behavior and now I confirmation biased myself into a townread, but I have a hard time thinking Greeting's scum at this point.
marcistar [/T]
~ First few posts feel kinda NAI for Marci,
22 and
23 are both helpful though and it is true that I don't call myself an innocent angel much and it's terminology Marci prefers!
Most of
29 feel like a good mix of joking and developing reads, it's helpful. Still feel the last bit of the post is a bit defensive, but I don't feel too strongly about it.
I like the first line of
33, the second one still has a defensive tone I don't like, though.
42 is fine, I particularly like the line where she mentions being scared of being pocketed, I don't think that's the kind of thing that crosses mafia members' minds that often.
49 makes sense and seems like it probably comes from a townie mentality.
89 I also like.
104,
136 and
182 all just don't seem to have much to them. I'd love more in depth/updated reads from Marci, I don't feel she's voiced her opinion on players much in a while, all 3 of those posts are very passive.
MegAzumarill [/M]
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6,
9 and
35 I don't feel strongly on.
36,
39 and
55 are all very meh posts, just talking about how he approaches the game, doesn't further discussion much.
64 and
70 are both actually acknowledging the game we're playing which is neat ig, but Meg doesn't voice their opinion on it, they just ask questions to other people.
71 and
73 are still just about the way he approaches the game.
83 is just Meg lightly defending themselves and asking another question to Greeting.
85 and
86 are just more simple questions, the latter feeling a bit hypocritical considering the content Meg themselves had put out. So does
88
96 just feels empty
119 Meg votes without justifying why, despite having said earlier they think people should give well detailed reasons for their votes
138 is Meg's first post where I actually feel he voices a read, well done! Even then it feels shallow and I would've liked for them to build on it.
139 is decent justification at least
The back-and-forth with Greeting in
140,
142 and
144 is fine, I guess.
151 you barely elaborated on it, come on.
Also why are you the one complaining about lack of reads? You're on post 151 and your only read is the one with Greeting who despite you interacting with continously, you fail to provide good reasoning for voting aside from 2 posts that do an okay job at it.
157 and
160 are okay and more reasoning, sure
162 WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! MEG FINALLY DROPPED ANOTHER READ!!!!
not a very in depth one, but wow!! a decent read from Meg!! Impressive!!
166 has some more reads, sorting a few people is nice. Would like to hear Meg's thoughts on Cape though.
I like the point made at the bottom of
168.
I'm fine with
172.
I like
174, the paranoia thing feels more so like something town would say.
177 is good content.
I like the vote in
179, although I feel it may be an attempt to to bring people's attention elsewhere and to be buddy buddy with Prism, who was already voting Hawk,
Don't know if you could tell, but I got very annoyed reading this ISO. Meg says people should justify their votes well, then doesn't do so. Meg complains about people not posting game relevant content while their posting was devoid of game relevance and focused on talking about their approach of the game and how it should be played over actual reads or significant stances on the current game. It gets a bit better near the end, but I don't think the emptiness of Meg's posts can be justified just by playstyle. It's a frustrating read because Meg's posts just feel so meaningless, I understand why Greeting was annoyed with them lmao. The read on Greeting doesn't feel particularly natural to me, either and the other reads feel very easy to manufacture.
Prism [/T]
~ Okay,
58 I don't read as town or maf.
92 is some good little reads to start off, cool, I also like the pressure for Meg to drop reads.
93 are some standard questions.
97 and
101 both feel like posts from someone trying to solve the game honestly, I like them a bit.
102 I feel pretty neutral on
103 the "players outgrowing metareads" point is fairly interesting and once again feels like it'd be stated by someone who's trying to solve the game and I like the way it's built upon in
105 and
106.
111 is nice, natural pressure on Hawk.
112 is fine.
133 just feels natural and good.
The piles in
137 make a whole lot of sense and the justification in
158 and
159 I also think is good.
The way she responds to Meg in
175 and
178 looks like town reasoning to me.
I don't have much constructive to say on this slot honestly which you've probably realized by my shallow analysis, her posts feel natural and well reasoned enough, but I'm not that confident on Prism's alignment. I feel like my brain's not big enough to actually do good analysis of her content
ProHawk [/M]
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40 is fine as an intro, getting people to introduce themselves is nice!
I don't like
108, however. The reads on Marci and I feel easy to fabricate, the slight doubt on Prism for having voted him also does. In addition, it feels odd to have Hawk just... not mention Meg in the post at all, considering that:
-Hawk was casting a vote against Greeting, who had just launched a wagon on Meg.
-Meg was also engaging in the same "questions without follow-up" type of posts that Hawk used to justify his vote on Greeting.
I get the impression here that Hawk, if scum, just wanted to get something on board, threw together some standard reads and avoided the Meg wagon since it'd be too complex to address and passively jumped on the Greeting wagon. It's harder to see a town member make this post.
Hawk also engages in the same behavior he's supposedly voting Greeting for in
125.
124 is just bad justification for reads, I don't think "level of interaction" is a good thing to base reads off of, really?
109,
110,
125 and
129 all don't have much substance.
Strangematter [//M]
~ So,
67 and
68 are both just the inactive discussion.
76 and
78 just ask Marci a pretty basic question.
87 just also shades a post already shaded by others,
95 is also just throwing a bit more stuff on the Greeting wagon. Still passive gameplay.
In
99 and
118 the nervousness discussion is alright I suppose, but it's also just easy content for scum to be putting out. At this point all that's been said by Stange regarding other players has been some shade on Greeting and a townread on Marci, which are pretty standard reads to have.
186 is a decent question, I guess.
I don't feel too strongly on this slot, but Strange's reads feel safe and standard; I'd like some reads on more players, especially Meg and myself. Strange also just hasn't done much to further discussion in my eyes, while a lot of players have done more to engage in that way.
I'll get my vote to a more appropriate spot and
VOTE: MegAzumarill.