FFVII Mafia: Over

[Natirasha]

And the performing of a lie, alongside his meta, in conjunction with his ethos, is a strong enough town case on him for me.

But it's not just that. There's a lot more scummy stuff that he's got against him other than just plain lying, probably more than both TM and CML combined...
I've mentioned these above in a reply to armlx. I think people are using his meta to justify slips that cannot be justified with it.

What are the slips you are talking about?

[CarnCarn]

What are the slips you are talking about?

For example, does he always shift role claims (like am I Cid or am I not?), does he always try to guide night protection, and is he always so evasive about his role after screwing the town with a mislynch?
There's a lot of scummy stuff that I'm just not sure he would have a meta for.

Here

@armlx: can you explain further on this:

I would normally say more claims, but this is the only scenario where claim at L-2 is not expected.

I would have thought the opposite.

[TonyMontana]

WTF stop saying retracted. What a moronic person. I did not retract anything. I am Cid.

You are cid? Seriously? Noy just maybe? Like maybe you are maybe you're not?

10-10 motherfucker

Maybe you don't wanna hold your cards so close to your chest seeing as yoru''s on l2 and i'me driunk as fucjk..

[Albert B. Rampage]

That is really stupid.

A doctor would only protect me if I was right. If I was right, which I thought I was about Xtoxm, then I would be a NK target anyway.

If I was not right, then the mafia would not target me in the first place, and no doctor would protect me.

Asking for a doc protect was then only playing the role of a daycop, and does not benefit scum.

[CarnCarn]

If I was not right, then the mafia would not target me in the first place, and no doctor would protect me.

Oh, I don't argue that the

mafia

wouldn't target you...

[GhostWriter]

That was not a slip, I just talked about that at the bottom of the last page, in that same post that you semi-quoted.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Well of course not. They knew I would be getting flak today.

[Albert B. Rampage]

in response to carn^^^^

[CarnCarn]

ABR, there are other roles that would most certainly want to target you N1 for your fake-claim.

[GhostWriter]

WTF stop saying retracted. What a moronic person. I did not retract anything. I am Cid.

You are cid? Seriously? Noy just maybe? Like maybe you are maybe you're not?

10-10 motherfucker

Maybe you don't wanna hold your cards so close to your chest seeing as yoru''s on l2 and i'me driunk as fucjk..

You're already voting him, stop making threats that make no sense, and go somber up. Better yet, stay drunk, and make another slip, so that the votes can go to you instead, because I already believe you should be the lynch of the day.

[CarnCarn]

GW, your post did not explain at all why ABR would ask night protection; I think the fact that he is still alive is proof he did get it.

[GhostWriter]

I don't have to explain that part, he has already explained it now.

[MrBuddyLee]

Albert, who are the scum on your wagon?

ABR, there are other roles that would most certainly want to target you N1 for your fake-claim.

I'm actually kind of stunned that if we have a vigilante, they didn't knock Albert's block off last night.

[CarnCarn]

I'm actually kind of stunned that if we have a vigilante, they didn't knock Albert's block off last night.

I can really only see one legitimate explanation for that, and I've said it a couple times now, in more subtle ways.

I don't have to explain that part, he has already explained it now.

He certainly has not. His "explanation" takes us for fools...

[GhostWriter]

No, his explanation takes the Doctor for someone smart. Why would he have been protected last night, after it was seen that he was not a cop, like he had claimed to be? I wouldn't have done it, would you? It's not taking you for fools, it's wondering why you haven't used common sense to get the obvious answer.

[CarnCarn]

Why would he have been protected last night, after it was seen that he was not a cop, like he had claimed to be? I wouldn't have done it, would you? It's not taking you for fools, it's wondering why you haven't used common sense to get the obvious answer.

If he wasn't protected, I find it very hard for him to survive the night. Your obvious answer, if I'm thinking what you are, relies on probabilties that are quite low. He likely would have been the target of multiple NAs, and to avoid them all via roleblocks, etc. on N1 is getting into the highly improbable range.

[CarnCarn]

Not to mention that he may just be NK immune

[Yosarian2]

Uh....I still don't see why you assume anyone would want to NK him.

[CarnCarn]

Y2, someone with a fake-guilty on a townie isn't the most obvious target for a vig N1?

[Yosarian2]

Y2, someone with a fake-guilty on a townie isn't the most obvious target for a vig N1?

Oh, you're talking about a vig and not a scumkill now?

Well, I wouldn't be too surprised if hr got vigged, but we don't know if there is vig, and if there is, it could be one of the people who thinks he's not scum.

[CarnCarn]

Oh, you're talking about a vig and not a scumkill now?

Well, I wouldn't be too surprised if hr got vigged, but we don't know if there is vig, and if there is, it could be one of the people who thinks he's not scum.

Yeah, I never considered mafia wanting to kill him, because it's obvious they could use him as a target today, if he's town/SK/Cult/etc., and if he's mafia, well it's pretty obvious why they wouldn't kill him...
I'm much more inclined to think the people protecting are the ones who don't think he's scum.

[wolframnhart]

I agree with Cephir about jebus and cavebear but I also think we need to hear from callmeliam again. He has been very quiet being so close to a lynch, i believe he is hoping some people will forget him or ABR might incriminate himself to the point where everyone votes him, because he is the mos vocal defending himself and come deadline time that might be where most people change their vote to, the loudest (forgive the term) player.

[TonyMontana]

WTF stop saying retracted. What a moronic person. I did not retract anything. I am Cid.

You are cid? Seriously? Noy just maybe? Like maybe you are maybe you're not?

10-10 motherfucker

Maybe you don't wanna hold your cards so close to your chest seeing as yoru''s on l2 and i'me driunk as fucjk..

You're already voting him, stop making threats that make no sense, and go somber up. Better yet, stay drunk, and make another slip, so that the votes can go to you instead, because I already believe you should be the lynch of the day.

if you thougth i was drink before.....

I'm just saying, that the two people we hot at l-2 better make a play for rthe town cause we are 2 days from the dead line...

[Albert B. Rampage]

I BELIEVE IN MIRACLES

WHERE YOU FROM

YOU SEXY THANG!

[Jebus]

Unvote
Vote: CML

As I said I would, since we're approaching deadline. If the deadline could be extended for CML to post some defense on this, I'd appreciate it, but for now, since nobody's going with Tony, this'll have to do.

@Post above: Irrelevant?