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Post Post #1925 (ISO) » Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:41 pm

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In post 1924, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Metagaming:
When game information outside of what is available in a game is used to give a player an advantage in-game.

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the only good post in like, 3 pages and it's a definition from a wiki

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Post Post #1926 (ISO) » Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:43 pm

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In post 1924, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Metagaming:
When game information outside of what is available in a game is used to give a player an advantage in-game.

Touche.
Meta in this context is using a player's playstyle to read them. If you wanna call what I referenced meta then you might as well call any prior belief about scum tells / town tells to be meta
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Post Post #1927 (ISO) » Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:45 pm

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In post 1925, Hella Jeff wrote:
In post 1924, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Metagaming:
When game information outside of what is available in a game is used to give a player an advantage in-game.

Touche.
the only good post in like, 3 pages and it's a definition from a wiki

i will rid this world of bad takes.............
Are you trying to be scummy
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Post Post #1928 (ISO) » Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:49 pm

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In post 1927, Dwlee99 wrote:Are you trying to be scummy
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Post Post #1929 (ISO) » Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:57 pm

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I'd would have
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Post Post #1930 (ISO) » Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:10 pm

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In post 1919, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 1917, Tracer.Bullet wrote:
In post 1916, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 1910, Tracer.Bullet wrote:Is this some kind of joke where you cherry pick shit from your past where you were right and expect me to do no DD and just nod and believe you.
I mean the situation is the same...

I'm like, yea, person scummy, let's just kill em

Then someone comes arguing with me for multiple pages about how I'm scum or something cause I should ~elaborate~ and ~explain~ more in depth

And then I just go "kill person" and if they flip red it'll REALLY be the same
Ok so why you pretending you don't have conviction if you think Holiday will REALLY flip scum
Where did I say that??
In post 1923, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 1921, Tracer.Bullet wrote:
In post 1884, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 1880, Tracer.Bullet wrote:How are you so sure Holiday flips scum here if you don't actually have time to play?
You're also way overplaying my confidence with this
This isn't me saying I "REALLY" thing holiday will flip scum soooo???


I'm not here to have a 10 page back and forth where you try to play semantics with me.

You either have conviction Holiday flips scum or you don't have conviction Holiday flips scum.

Pick one and stop hedging and dodging.
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Post Post #1931 (ISO) » Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:15 pm

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I have never had a ton of conviction on it and I have no clue where you think I said or implied otherwise

You overplaying my confidence means you're making it seem like I'm more confident than I really am

So how is that an answer to where I've appeared confident?
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Post Post #1932 (ISO) » Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:17 pm

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Like you suggested I'm super confident and I immediately said no I'm not, and then I ask where I said I'm confident and you quote that back to me???
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Post Post #1933 (ISO) » Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:22 pm

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You: you think the sky is purple
Me: no, it's blue
You: you said it's purple
Me: where?
You: "no, it's blue" -Dwlee
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Post Post #1934 (ISO) » Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:23 pm

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You should run for office

You're pretty good at avoiding giving a straight answer.
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Post Post #1935 (ISO) » Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:28 pm

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Not sure what you think I didn't answer
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Post Post #1936 (ISO) » Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:28 pm

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You're high-key projecting here
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Post Post #1937 (ISO) » Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:35 pm

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I feel your plan is to just flood the thread with so many twisty replies/dodges that nobody actually reads what went on in our conversation because it's too long and this day is too long and nobody has time for this much bullshit.
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Post Post #1938 (ISO) » Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:40 pm

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You can't even explain what I'm dodging dude
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Post Post #1939 (ISO) » Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:48 pm

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Tracer did you misread because I put the word REALLY in all caps
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Post Post #1940 (ISO) » Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:54 pm

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Do you have conviction Holiday flips scum or not
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Post Post #1941 (ISO) » Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:55 pm

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It's a fucking yes or no question btw I don't need 6 lines talking about your feelings
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Post Post #1942 (ISO) » Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:05 pm

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Meh

Greater than rand but I wouldn't bet the game on it
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Post Post #1943 (ISO) » Mon Nov 22, 2021 7:31 pm

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19 hours huh...

I can believe Holiday is somehow town. I mostly performed hammer for joke, because it's not so effective. I also don't understand points asked to DWLEE99, why using reaction tests if they doesh't believe in them. Like... I did "hammer" right? Where's chain.

I am strongly against Alice elim as well, it's not position mafia wants to become. Very well, let's think options here for some.

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Post Post #1944 (ISO) » Mon Nov 22, 2021 7:50 pm

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Have you actually played with Alice?

She loves the attention regardless of alignment
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Post Post #1945 (ISO) » Mon Nov 22, 2021 7:55 pm

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In post 1944, Tracer.Bullet wrote:Have you actually played with Alice?

She loves the attention regardless of alignment
No, i didn't.

Any other argumentation why Alice is evil?
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Post Post #1946 (ISO) » Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:10 pm

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In post 1740, April Ludgate wrote:
In post 1738, Andante wrote:cause I can just come back at you and go "you should vote A50"
You should vote Holiday because we have had multiple claims this day phase, and Holiday was the final claim, and a Vanilla claim, meaning it's a low risk misfade based on scum wanting PR's faded, not Vanilla. Yes, it is a win for scum to get through a day phase, but they do not need to get through 1 day phase, they need to be able to survive until the end.

Ending the day phase before any further PR claims can happen is optimal.

Why is Holiday scummy? They were semi active during portions of the game, but they were also being the type of player that wasn't really saying anything unpopular or unfavorable, and when people tried to think of any actual things Holiday had said, nobody was able to remember, which naturally means they were off of people's radars. I also have reason to town read almost every other person for some reason or another, and Holiday only has a couple things that were like "yeah, i liked that post" so on top of the needing to stop further claims this day phase, and move on, Holiday is the optimal flip, especially with the actions that have been taken afterwards. Holiday is a plant in the ground, and we need to stake it down, and use this as a moment to push the game forward, but to do so, the slot needs to flip. Then we can progress forward rather than in a circle.

this post smells like complete horseshit
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Post Post #1947 (ISO) » Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:10 pm

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I don't think April is uninformed or gives a shit what Holiday actually flips as.

Confidence is manufactured and sounds hollow and fake.
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Post Post #1948 (ISO) » Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:16 pm

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In post 1445, April Ludgate wrote:
In post 1402, Holiday wrote:Okay, so then do you actually like April's scumread on me?

From what I understand of it, it's literally that they like what I post and I'm a bit more background-y, so I'm top scum. And people dislike that read/pressure around me, so it's a good sign (even though... I think most people townread or lean me to some degree? Not everyone, but more than not do.)

Maybe I'm more exasperated at her for throwing out something that I physically just throw my hands up at because it doesn't compute. To me it's either honestly, an ego-driven read to catch a "deepwolf" that doesn't exist or scum (which... I did say I had bad feelings about April before they doubled down on me being their top scumread). Both are very shitty situations.
you just in a pool now, not necessarily a scum read.
In post 1632, April Ludgate wrote:
In post 1631, April Ludgate wrote:Let's just kill the Vanilla claim and go to Day 2 without anyone else claiming.
this is always the best path of action, even if Holiday ends up being town.

In post 1667, April Ludgate wrote:I am starting to think that Holiday is Vanilla town, but i still say go for it, tbh.
In post 1724, April Ludgate wrote:If they're scum, cool, we got a scum. If they're town, eh, at least they're vanilla, and cool, we got tons to analyze, and we're in Day 2.
In post 1763, April Ludgate wrote:Scum have to push me here because I become essentially conf town after Holiday flips.
In post 1769, April Ludgate wrote:At the end of the day, they're pushing me because I'm pushing Holiday, and i think that's obvious, I am pushing Holiday because I think they are scum.


this progression is a joke
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Post Post #1949 (ISO) » Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:19 pm

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Remind me, you trying to prove April is town or otherwise? Because for now you proving town.
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