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[Milobird]

well, it's true that this way of doing things lower the chances of having the best role visit (although that might not even be the case depending on the tiebreaker for multiple visits)

but like, generally, the 2nd / 3rd / even 4th best role are not gonna be significantly weaker than the very best

Anyone posting in the thread without explicitly discussing me and std is scum claiming

Okay who has scum claimed

well, it's true that this way of doing things lower the chances of having the best role visit (although that might not even be the case depending on the tiebreaker for multiple visits)

but like, generally, the 2nd / 3rd / even 4th best role are not gonna be significantly weaker than the very best

She said she default coppies first pr right? The obvious problem with that is if Mastina’s town, then if the most powerful pr visits her first, then we get double. Well, I would strongly suggest that any relatively weak prs, use their abilities elsewhere. This will ensure we get a double dose of strong tpr.

~I

Then it works in the way laid out in my role PM. Will claim that interaction if more folks think it's a good idea for me to.

I think you know the answer to the question of "should I give out this info?" better than anyone else besides the mods, and I think that, if you're town (and we feel pretty sure you are at this juncture), you shouldn't allow others' opinions to sway you too easily in case some of those opinions come from scum who are like, idk, hunting for powerful powers or something.

like, if it would be terrible for town to have too many people target you, that might be a circumstance in which you wanna fullclaim? But again, only you and the mods know that.

- q and b. we both contributed to this post. with our powers combined...???!?!?!

....yeah, still only one brain cell.

well, it's true that this way of doing things lower the chances of having the best role visit (although that might not even be the case depending on the tiebreaker for multiple visits)

but like, generally, the 2nd / 3rd / even 4th best role are not gonna be significantly weaker than the very best

She said she default coppies first pr right? The obvious problem with that is if Mastina’s town, then if the most powerful pr visits her first, then we get double. Well, I would strongly suggest that any relatively weak prs, use their abilities elsewhere. This will ensure we get a double dose of strong tpr.

~I

oh yeah, obviously

post socks

LOCKTOWN

Didn't mastina do like exactly this in ydrssal and get mod killed

Yo, will be back here to read and give reads later but for now just wanted to claim this;

I am a 1x reflexive role-copier

; I will get a one-shot copy of the first power to target me. So,

if you think your power is pretty damn strong especially if a second player can use it, you should target me N1

.

Reflexively don't believe this either. Or extremely misleading.

W/e

has Mastina changed her habit of never fake-claiming though?

Looking at mastina's claim, why are we speculating what happens if multiple roles target her? She already said she copies just the first one (according to resolution I'm assuming)

Gyphx is giving me material to work with, I just have no idea if what he's doing here is spewing Mastina or not. All I'm really getting is that he's being tentative. He's pushing back slightly by revealing true information about her. Which is in line with his earlier approach in the game a few pags ago. But is he caution preaching? Fact dumping in lieu of something better to do?

-Bell

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

You can objectively uptick them as scum just by them repping out.

-Bell

Fair point

rofl whut

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

there have been seven replacements in this game

six of them have been flipped

they are all town

what is this mumbo jumbo bullshit

[SirCakez]

There's some stats saying replacements are more likely to be scum

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

every flipped replacement in this game is town so your statistics are garbage

[Milobird]

every flipped replacement in this game is town so your statistics are garbage

This isn't how statistics work.

-Bell

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Every game has a different scum team.

Some scum teams are fun and supportive

Some scum teams are boring and shit.

Some scum teams are high pressure and intensive.

the type of scum team has a lot to do with how likely a player reps out of a scum slot.

You are trying to apply population level statistics to this game.

Which makes literally 0 sense.

Look at every flipped mafia

Not a single one of them is a replacement.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Like you've decided you want to 1v1 me

cuz you know you can't get me to vote Mastina

and you can't get Cakez to vote Mastina

so just fucking own that instead of pretending you're actually "rereading and figuring shit out"

It's downright comical.

[Milobird]

That's not how statistics work either.

-Bell

[Milobird]

I appreciate that Pooky. But nah. I enjoy the puzzle. Like I play mafia for this part. I like getting to know people and I like solving. Even if I can't be assed to.
I'm just going to keep on doing this. Though I'm probably going to take a break soon for the day since I've spent a lot of time on this already.

-Bell

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I mean at this point it's just performative gibberish you're doing to try to convince the audience you're actually solving when literally everyone sitting at the table knows you've already made a decision like 2 weeks ago.

[Milobird]

Nobody is sitting at a table.

-Bell

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I am sitting at a table right now!

[Milobird]

Nobody important is sitting at a table.

-Bell

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Actually we're all just sitting at the table watching you and notty do your best sherlock holmes cosplay and we're trying not to laugh

[Milobird]

I'm kidding, there are plenty of people sitting on tables right now.

But none of these people are more important than any other. They're all equally important. ('w')

-Bell

[Milobird]

What worries me most about mastina is she reads me as town in this game.

Town: Shea, maybe STD, slappykrew, esuriohydra

Scum: mastina, whemestar

I’ll be here all week thanks

Reading Mastina correctly in this game is super important considering her claim.

lol no

i'm fucking mareep you dolt

I CC this claim.

Now i retract.

CC again.

I don't understand this series of posts.
Was STD not genuinely counter claiming?

thinking about it, mastina, maybe you should put a reduction to the number of peeps who should visit you? Like, restrict it to half the PL or something, cuz i doubt we'd gain much worth from 4-5 of our powerful PRs taking a shot on you on the long term

also VOTE: alexandrite less talk more scrap

But how would that be determined? It’s not like we’re doing a mass claim on D1.

~Innuendos

Everyone decide whether your power is likely in the top 5 town powers. If no, don't target mastina.
If yes, generate a random number 1-100. If your random number is > 50 target mastina otherwise don't.

That should result in a few but not too many strong town powers targeting mastina without having to list their names publicly in advance.

Threshold can be adjusted according to how sure we want to be at least one town player targets mastina, and what proportion of players are likely to follow this approach vs ignore it.

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VOTE: STD

i can meat read std very well
coming soon

you thought you could get one past me calling it "meat" instead of meta but I'm onto you

Obligatory: i can meat read std very well

Uhh. Nothing really interesting happened here. Imaginality leaning into theory, acting sort of like a brick.

Did I mention that I have 9 days off of work which is why I'm spamming, or why I'm able to devote so much time to this,
I mean besides it being elo.
I feel like I did, but I want to mention that because I think Sircakez said it was weird or something that I was suddenly trying (it's actually not weird).

-Bell

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

what's weird is you pretending to be solving when you already made a decision lol

[Milobird]

We already covered this Pooky. This is how I play in elo.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Like, all I'm going to do is.

1. Make a narrative for Town & Scum, Pooky and Mastina.
2. Make a narrative for how each scum chose to present themselves and how that fits into their interactions with either of you.
3. Use all the time left going over all the posts to make that narrative.
4. Pick which one of you is more likely to be scum based on the narratives and then broken record ask you to cross vote each other and then make a case for one another.

@Mastina:
@Pooky:

Question for the day, ya'll have read death curse.
Ya'll have read Pooky versus Flavorleaf.

I know Mastina hasn't really had the opportunity to really dig into these recent posts.
But there's a pretty clear wall between what I'm capable of making myself do as town versus scum.

In death curse: I tried at the end.
In Pooky Versus FlavorLeaf: I promised to try at the end when I was cornered but it never materialized because I can't lie good.
Why can I suddenly lie good?

-Bell

[Milobird]

I’m just over here voting scum

Y’all enjoy your wagon on town

Anyone posting in the thread without explicitly discussing me and std is scum claiming

Okay who has scum claimed

@TSQ

I have trained under miltank for many a year for this snark

ah yes not_mafia, the snarky scummer.


VOTE: TIL
lockscum

VOTE: TIL

You spelled town wrong.

~I

VOTE: SleepyKrew

VOTE: TIL

Town-
Shea
STD
T3
Brain Cell
Slappykrew
Wisdom
Cakeboy

is there anyone else in this game you'd attribute > random reads to?

micc

predit: yeah still jiving with tsq

Levels of engagement, genuine engagement with the game and I enjoy the old man screaming at clouds, and cake has found stuff to pounce on and chase which is prob town from him

@fire

Unofficial VC

With 21 alive, it takes 11 to eliminate someone

Save The Dragons (4) -

Thestatusquo, Woolax, chowchow, Sharing the Brain Cell

Sharing the Brain Cell (4):

SirCakez, Firebringer, Whemestar, Wisdom

Milobird (3):

Kitty Trauma Team, imaginality, Save The Dragons

Firebringer (2) -

Ralts, Alexandrite

Truth Innuendo Lies (2) -

SleepyKrew, Dwlee99

SirCakez (1) -

mastina

Alexandrite (1) -

Gypyx

Whemestar (1):

Milobird

Not Voting (3) :

T3, The Goat, Truth Innuendo Lies

Deadline:

(expired on 2021-10-13 21:30:00)

did u ask this thinking it would help u read TIL?

yeah, its something I'd like to file away and probably come back to later.

If this is to me. it’s based off of experience playing with both Wisdom and Hectic

yes, the question was to you. can you answer it?

micc

Save The Dragons is the only leading wagon I understand at this point. Haven't seen a case to the Brain Cell or Milobird votes.

Firebringer had some votes but the wagon quickly died off. Not interested in voting there.
the brief chowchow wagon was fine. I don't see voting people who are strictly here to meme as productive, but I am generally on board to policy lim them sooner rather than later.

nancy not answering the questing is kinda irritating but very much in line with what I'd expect.

micc

I'm WIFOMing myself here, but I do wonder if scum would be this obstinate about continuing to do the blatantly anti-town thing.

and then that most recent post.

hmm.

yeah okay whatever back to this for now

VOTE: STD

-q

well, to be fair, pretty sure that gimmick isn't even alignement indicative right ? besides that's like 5 posts into the doggo guy's ISO at the time you're saying this, that's barely even callable as an iso lol

VOTE: braincell

unrelated to my previous quote btw, just realized

shea I danced for you are you going to respond to that

sorry prolly not

damn wish I saw this before I changed my vote

Then why didn't you change your vote back?

Micc: Doing the bare minimum. I shall post about all of the events currently. I shall state my opinions on them and then I shall go on lunch break and do it again. Lunch break scum. They're actually kind of contentless here. I should've had more red flags based on that. I was mostly waiting for the worst to post since I know they hate being scum. But I don't think they ever did.
Gyphx: still doing the reasonable shtick.

The whole scum team is ignoring each other and not even throwing soft ball questions at each other. The only exception so far might be Gyphx.

-Bell

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[PookyTheMagicalBear]

@Bell

in Death Curse you were never even suspected

I knew you were town

I was just using you as bait to get the other 2 to motivation slip.

You literally didn't have to do shit.

Also your lies in FL v Pooky were better than your lies in this game, you just got caught by a cop who hardpushed you.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Like, all I'm going to do is.

1. Make a narrative for Town & Scum, Pooky and Mastina.
2. Make a narrative for how each scum chose to present themselves and how that fits into their interactions with either of you.
3. Use all the time left going over all the posts to make that narrative.
4. Pick which one of you is more likely to be scum based on the narratives and then broken record ask you to cross vote each other and then make a case for one another.

There's literally 0 point for you to do this since you have already decided it's me.

The only reason you even have to do this is to perform for the audience and hope they buy your act.

[Milobird]

Cool, so can you fuck off while I continue my song and dance instead of wasting my time while I do something I enjoy?

-Bell

[Milobird]

You're being rude.

-Bell