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[NorwegianboyEE]

>I< remembered Enchant was voting there already. Now what does it tell you that the 53 y.o. monkey remembered it??)

I've heard that old people tend to be more political than younger people nowadays, so it doesn't surprise me that you remember such things.

[Almost50]

Almost50 and Something Smart are the 2 players that know me best in this game.

It did take me quite some time to find a suitable response to this one, but I DID.

[Hella Jeff]

i'm going home in about an hour.
when i come i'm gonna cram so much information into my brain

[Almost50]

A50 has spent most of my wagon being a fucking parrot

Well, I can't fly, so your statement is plain

[Almost50]

doing fuck all ... and then tries to be holier than thou

I'm not even French! Duh!

[April Ludgate]

@Norwegian - id rather you not leave it to Hella Jeff (not that I think Hella Jeff is gonna vote me necessarily, but more for the action for you to make. It feels like you actively just want to let Jeff make the decision, but I feel like if you vote me, then that's also a sign to persuade Hella Jeff towards me.

I want ya to accept the town hand I'm throwing out by making the active choice to at least not vote me.

Sure, it's survivalistic, but I do truly want to town block, and cause a great stir for scum.

We have to work with building our town reads on this game. What can I do to get you to see I'm town?

I want to get to the level with you where it isn't down to Holiday/April, I want you to wonder if Holiday is scum or not, and alternative would be to flash wagon elsewhere. (not that i think that's the right path, but that mindset of wishing it was possible is where I'm trying to work with you to get.

[April Ludgate]

@Norwweigan - say Hella Jeff voted me to make it so you were the final vote, that would have you lean towards voting me because the other non voter did, and that's the same active choice you would be making if you voted me here giving HJ. It doesn't turn it into a 50-50, it's more of a 65-35

[Dwlee99]

Holiday should be the flip today

[Almost50]

@Norwee: I'm just curious here... what if Jeff voted April NOW and left YOU with the hammer choice? What would you do then?

[April Ludgate]

Also, with flips, reading me should become incredibly easy.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I want ya to accept the town hand I'm throwing out by making the active choice to at least not vote me.

Sure, it's survivalistic, but I do truly want to town block, and cause a great stir for scum.

I don't really trust you to the level where i'd have you as a townblock read tho. I don't think my trust can go any higher than an certain percentage.

[Dwlee99]

Norwee can you trust me and then trust april by proxy?

[April Ludgate]

Keep in mind, Osuka voted me as a compromise as well, and was also leaning Holiday at one point. That was before my claim.

I feel like Osuka would be willing to go to Holiday

[Dwlee99]

Vote Count 1.0.13


Holiday (6) April Ludgate, Almost50, Dwlee99, T3, Something_Smart, Enchant [E-1]
April Ludgate (5) Holiday, Andante, Tracer.Bullet, osuka, geraintm
Not Voting (2) Hella Jeff, NorwegianBoyEE

Deadline: (expired on 2021-11-23 21:35:34)

Mod Notes:
VC is done by hand. Please let me know if I mess something up.

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Also, 2 hour to deadline

[April Ludgate]

I want ya to accept the town hand I'm throwing out by making the active choice to at least not vote me.

Sure, it's survivalistic, but I do truly want to town block, and cause a great stir for scum.

I don't really trust you to the level where i'd have you as a townblock read tho. I don't think my trust can go any higher than an certain percentage.

but it's okay enough to work towards that in optimism? That's why I feel we need flips, flips can help you go higher because you'll get to see where I'm coming from with the knowledge of other slots.

I become super easy to read as the game goes on, as both alignments.

SomethingSmart said he would never go near me Day 1 for a reason.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Norwee can you trust me and then trust april by proxy?

But i don't trust u either.

[April Ludgate]

I think it would take quite a lot to get me to vote you on D1.

Certainly after you've claimed a PR, bullshit sensors going off though they may be, I wouldn't ever be touching you.

@Norwegian - there's a reason for this, and it's because I become increasingly easier to read as the game goes on, even if I have complete backwards reads, it eventually gets to the right one, and i start to be able to bleed town.

Putting me in range to hammer is essentially the hammer vote on me.

[April Ludgate]

Norwee can you trust me and then trust april by proxy?

But i don't trust u either.

but you can give us the chance.

[April Ludgate]

give me the opportunity to earn your trust

[NorwegianboyEE]

I honestly just get more paranoid when u focus so hard on me.
Can you tell me why you think your bottom 3 scumreads are mafia instead?

[April Ludgate]

You just can't really expect to be able to fully trust me on Day 1, but as the game goes on, you definitely will be able to.

[Dwlee99]

Norwee can you trust me and then trust april by proxy?

But i don't trust u either.

but why not

[NorwegianboyEE]

You just can't really expect to be able to fully trust me on Day 1, but as the game goes on, you definitely will be able to.

If Holiday is scum, where next. And if he's town?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Norwee can you trust me and then trust april by proxy?

But i don't trust u either.

but why not

Your insistence that it's a good idea to wagon Holiday, but also apprehensiveness about the flip pings me.

[April Ludgate]

I honestly just get more paranoid when u focus so hard on me.
Can you tell me why you think your bottom 3 scumreads are mafia instead?

it's not necessarily i think all 3 of them are, it's just the nature of how they're pushing me.

I focus more on finding strong town reads than finding strong scum reads early because it's literally scum's job to manipulate the gamestate.

I felt that Gamma/A50 likely had 1 scum in it, it's why they were brought down early from town reads to the null.

I brought up that hitting a VT flip Day 1 isn't as preferable as pushing elsewhere to get more claims, and possibly hit a role that isn't a VT. Tracer comes in hard aggro, yelling. However, if you look at how they're pushing, it's completely a fluff push, talking down on my posts in a "bad" type of way, which is inherently a discredit way of playing. If Holiday is scum, Tracer has a good chance at chainsaw'ing me, and if Holiday is town, it benefits Tracer to pick a side, and stick with it to get more claims/fade a higher priority target than a VT.

Andante, eh, if I'm wrong on Holiday/Tracer, then that's where that is. I feel there's a chance they're just a town sheep who has an idea of what they think is "bad", but dont really understand that there isn't bad takes this early in a game, but buzzwords could get them.