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[Hella Jeff]

are we actually e1ing the simple doctor claim

Holiday is an OMGUSer, Andante is a Sheep, Tracer is scum pushing my wagon, Osuka had a compromise vote, geraint just can't comprehend how people get early day 1's and goes all "what players should play like", and Norwegian was fence sitting trying to get on my wagon without seeming too eager.

hmmmm, about norwee
i think as scum i wouldn't be apologetic/fencesitty when voting you. i'd think this moment would be the most important to open wolf (if i used the phrase right)
if you're town, you're a simple doc and getting you out is incredibly good because by the start of d2 that's 2 PRs gone in 99% of worlds
a 2 for 1 seems really good
like, no fencesitting for me, there's a PR on the chopping block that i need to secure (and in some worlds, 'my buddy's at E-1 and i have no idea what jeff's going to do')

[April Ludgate]

Tracer is just incredibly obvious scum, and hardcore pushed a scum agenda this day phase, and Norwegian tries to position Tracer even further in a townie spotlight.

They came into the game with "dueling wagons is good" but then played the day hard pushing me, hard defending Holiday. they came into this game knowing exactly where and how they wanted to push in a scum motivated agenda.

[April Ludgate]

are we actually e1ing the simple doctor claim

Holiday is an OMGUSer, Andante is a Sheep, Tracer is scum pushing my wagon, Osuka had a compromise vote, geraint just can't comprehend how people get early day 1's and goes all "what players should play like", and Norwegian was fence sitting trying to get on my wagon without seeming too eager.

hmmmm, about norwee
i think as scum i wouldn't be apologetic/fencesitty when voting you. i'd think this moment would be the most important to open wolf (if i used the phrase right)
if you're town, you're a simple doc and getting you out is incredibly good because by the start of d2 that's 2 PRs gone in 99% of worlds
a 2 for 1 seems really good
like, no fencesitting for me, there's a PR on the chopping block that i need to secure (and in some worlds, 'my buddy's at E-1 and i have no idea what jeff's going to do')

K, now think about this from Holiday being town perspective.

[April Ludgate]

@Hella Jeff - I guarantee you scum want my fade over Holiday's if Holiday is town. Norwegian was there all day fence sitting defending slots against me, but did nothing to defend over on my slot. that is not fence sitting, that is trying to appear as if you are genuinely trying to solve.

[April Ludgate]

@Hella Jeff - I guarantee you scum want my fade over Holiday's if Holiday is town. Norwegian was there all day fence sitting defending slots against me, but did nothing to defend over on my slot. that is not fence sitting, that is trying to appear as if you are genuinely trying to solve.

[April Ludgate]

I will be flipping Town simple doctor.

You're in the position to choose likely what townie goes down. I feel like Holiday has a much higher chance at being scum just based on play alone. im biased since i know i'm town, but like...

[April Ludgate]

Can you just vote Holiday, Jeff? Please. It's my first game in like 10 months, and I feel like I'm doing great town work. Probably a terrible reason, but like....come on.

I've been busting my ass trying to show people why I am town, been doing the work, did the analysis on every slot. Nothing else I could do. I'm not being scum read, people just want me to be scum.

If I eat a night kill, sure, but scum will need to try and night kill me at some point as a doctor. Holiday's never eating the night kill with the VT claim if they're town.

[Hella Jeff]

yeah, um
i can't really vote you at this state

[April Ludgate]

We should have tried to flash wagon Tracer when you brought it up earlier having doubts there.

[April Ludgate]

idk if we would have gotten it, though.

[Holiday]

yeah, um
i can't really vote you at this state

Okay if you're going to vote me stop hemming and hawing and just do it so I don't have to think about this stupid game anymore.

[April Ludgate]

if we're both town, Holiday, who's scum on your wagon?

[April Ludgate]

if we're both town, Holiday, who's scum on your wagon?

* who's scum on my wagon, I mean

[Holiday]

My answer remains the same, minus you if you were somehow confirmed town.

Edit: Don't know and I'm not going to spend time thinking about that.

[April Ludgate]

if Holiday is town, they let emotions effect them too much, and majorly hindered their play.

if Holiday is scum, they picked a poor course of action to a wagon on them from OMGUS shout battling, because if they're scum, they're screwed even if they get through this day phase because of it. Scum needed to make a different choice.

[Holiday]

You can save your breath and time and stop posturing when Jeff's all but voted me.

[April Ludgate]

they didn't answer me earlier when I asked about who was scummier, Tracer or Andante, meaning they aren't willing to collaborate.

and before Holiday gets upset, not necessarily talking to you when saying what you should have done, just stating facts around the play itself. my own analysis, and i share my research.

[April Ludgate]

You can save your breath and time and stop posturing when Jeff's all but voted me.

if you took the time to think about it, jeff was actively thinking we're TvT, something that comes across majorly in his posting. If you were capable of stepping back, we could have possibly found a new wagon, but you were too hard up on your OMGUS wagon to and basically just let scum manipulate the game around you.

I was ready to go for Tracer, but you refused to work in any regards, which is just weak town if you are town.

If you are scum, yeah, way too salty, work on that, bud.

[Holiday]

Wouldn't have collaborated on Tracer.

Uninterested in working with someone who I think could still flip scum. Uninterested in 'stepping back' from my reads when I find your townblock horrific and your actions the catalyst for this entire mess.

[April Ludgate]

Wouldn't have collaborated on Tracer.

Uninterested in working with someone who I think could still flip scum. Uninterested in 'stepping back' from my reads when I find your townblock horrific and your actions the catalyst for this entire mess.

mark of a weak townie.

[Holiday]

Shouldn't have kept pressing on me under the guise of 'good for the town if we kill a townie' rhetoric. :shrug:

[April Ludgate]

whether or not you are town is irrelevant to your town philosophy.

[Holiday]

Wouldn't have collaborated on Tracer.

Uninterested in working with someone who I think could still flip scum. Uninterested in 'stepping back' from my reads when I find your townblock horrific and your actions the catalyst for this entire mess.

mark of a weak townie.

Don't worry buddy, maybe someone'll get it right tomorrow! You can always improve.

[April Ludgate]

Shouldn't have kept pressing on me under the guise of 'good for the town if we kill a townie' rhetoric. :shrug:

I don't care, tbh. If I die, my reads will be taken in consideration, they just will, whether people realize it or not. It's the amount of stakes and actions I've forced scum to take this game, and will continue to make.

There's a reason I have caught more scum than most anyone on the site's history at this point, being here a while helps, though.

[April Ludgate]

Wouldn't have collaborated on Tracer.

Uninterested in working with someone who I think could still flip scum. Uninterested in 'stepping back' from my reads when I find your townblock horrific and your actions the catalyst for this entire mess.

mark of a weak townie.

Don't worry buddy, maybe someone'll get it right tomorrow! You can always improve.

you think that, but a lot of players I see regress, so