Newbie 2084: Signs [game over!]

[MegAzumarill]

pagetop?

[Cape90]

Hello everyone! I am hoping to have a nice game
I am about to make a pro move
VOTE: ProHawk

Funny how you all are suggesting MegAzumarill when I was thinking the same thing. Just feels like they have been putting off doing anything useful this game at all and are using 36 as a sort of cover (even if this isn't the case, I still dislike this post).

The other person is Mueh because fundamentally 43 seems counter intuitive in, well, trying to solve the game, at least early on.
Though I sort of like 34 from Mueh as I find it at the very least a good post so they can stay.

VOTE: MegAzumarill

So fair warning, I'm phone posting this whole weekend so don't expect a lot of quoting and long posts going on because it's well difficult.

After reading and trying to digest a bit after a long day I've come to get some initial gutish reads.

I like merci and muah as town based on good posts that have a town feel of scum hunting in general. I have a feeling that Prism is town but am weirded out by the post in which she votes me almost like as if she needs to vote me to have me answer a question. I had gotten some scummy vibes from the questions that Greeting had initially put out like they were questions for the sake of questions without any follow up.

The rest of you I still need to sort, also for those of you who are more experienced, keep in mind the players who are actually new to Mafia in general and not overwhelm the thread in intense discussion.

VOTE: Greeting

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Yeah so anyway, since this is the most that ProHawk has provided in terms of content so far.

VOTE: ProHawk

This vote just seems like a vote to just go with thread consensus at the time.

lack of voting

this is usually more then i vote in a day honestly

[Meuh]

VOTE: Cabd

POE

I honestly just don't really see many realistic scum teams within the 8 slots that have been active and townread most people so I think Cabd just has to be scum here.
Main issue with this elim would be lack of info from the flip which would kinda suck, but I just don't really know where else we should elim here, none of the options really have me convinced
Maybe Strange is still a better elim just cause it provides more info on flip and I can see that slot be scum but meh, I think mafia Cabd is

significantly

more likely than it is for anyone else

I really think Meg's town here, idk why exactly but their vibes are immaculate at the moment

[Meuh]

what if this is a prism/strange team

i think i can actually see that

[Prism]

At the risk of making the above paranoia worse, I see no reason to swap given that ProHawk is at 3, but Cabd is a great second vote with Strange probably third. There's not a lot of info if Cabd flips town but if he flips scum we take those.

I wouldn't vote Greeting without having finished revisiting that slot completely.

[Meuh]

Greeting's town. Not voting for him if it can be avoided

[Cabd]

First few pages:

Marci feels extremely off, like she's needing to project confidence to throw off her usual tell of effort=town.
If I had to bet on one player being town for all the marbles, it'd be Cape90.
Mega's eagerness for other slots to show up reads slight >rand town
Ironic that Prism reads marci-town for the same reason i'm sorta reading marci-scum, hah. Prism, you are missing a major jump in scum ability in the Isekai game, where Marci and I were partners and she held her own MUCH better.


Nothing else really stands out as of yet. Onwards!

[Cabd]

Oh hey actually Prism did notice the thing.

But prism lacks having seen the scum discord from that game. JJH was supposedly going to publish it post game but he never did get around to it.

Anyways, continuing.

[Prism]

I'm aware of the possibility that she got specific feedback to have exactly this kind of start. I don't see a reason to assume that at the moment, especially with the way she leveraged several parts of the intro.

[Cabd]

I'm aware of the possibility that she got specific feedback to have exactly this kind of start. I don't see a reason to assume that at the moment, especially with the way she leveraged several parts of the intro.

My problem is that this game followed the roadmap I kind of laid out in the scum discord for isekai BUT I acknowledge that the starting board for this game isn't the scary one that Tarot/Isekai contained and following said roadmap may not have been something that even sprung to mind.

[Cabd]

Next few pages:

147 from Cape yeah I'm good binning this as town.
Ah yes, the patented "I am trickier than you think stop reading me for lazy yomi level one reasons" from Prism. Wouldn't be a Prism game without at least one.
I like the effort from Meuh but am hesitant to grant townpoints for effort given the infamous string and corkboard, or titus notebook things.
Aaaaaand both Prism and Meuh talked about this cool, cool.

Oh fuck notes PT tea. :/
And they're correct, it's in the mod's rules set:

~ let me know if you want a private thread to store your thoughts and feedback for the other players. you may draft posts in your notes pt if the posts are clearly meant to be posted in the main thread. you may talk about your notes pt. you may not directly quote from your notes pt, and you may not use it to demonstrate that you've had a town mindset in private all along; just put your town mindset in public to begin with and keep your notes to yourself.

Okay I like the reads wall from Greeting quite a bit and it ~MOSTLY~ matches where I am at the same point in time?

Interesting that marci directs a quesiton at Asu specifically about the reads.


Greeting 254... Yeah okay not sure about the notes vs scum pt thing because in a vacuum without this albatross hanging over everything I'd be townbinning Greeting here.

[Prism]

Every time I read the phrase "yomi layer" I want to vomit onto my monitor.

[Cabd]

Ah hitting the hawkie-prism turbulence now I believe.

Please fasten your seat belts.

OH SHIT he dropped the ffery word (Trajectory)

...This seems to be a fatal clash of playstyles based upon the first page of it. Interesting characterization of Prism as honorable., I'd argue she just likes the have elevated play but will not hesitate to WIM to 11 as ANY alignment, damn the torpedos. Pretty sure she subscribes to the sirlin rule of "If it's within the rules, it's allowed, fuck your feelings on "cheap shots" and such"

I am not randomly or universally spectating games to divine things from scratch for every player in a game.

Yeah what kind of fucking loser would make that his entire onsite persona for years and get a custom title about it forever cementing his too much free time status.

I uh, if this was a gladiate would vote hawkie here in a heartbeat.

Hawkie playing this off as "hilarious reaction lol dude" is uh, not tracking well for me.

Top of 15.

[StrangeMatter]

Honestly, I'm kind of paranoid of Cabd scum, which this is only from another person's experience and what they said in another game. Especially when they were scum and flew under the radar for nearly everyone.

[Cabd]

Every time I read the phrase "yomi layer" I want to vomit onto my monitor.

I suddenly feel the need to invest in barf bucket stocks and then make a posting macro.

[Cabd]

Honestly, I'm kind of paranoid of Cabd scum, which this is only from another person's experience and what they said in another game. Especially when they were scum and flew under the radar for nearly everyone.

Who and where?

I've had standout games as both alignments over the years, but I'd argue prism is actually better than me here.

[StrangeMatter]

Let me look for it for a second.

[Prism]

I am generally a dirty player who will put pine tar on the figurative baseball without thinking twice, but I do limit my actions somewhat in Newbie games.

[Cabd]

I am generally a dirty player who will put pine tar on the figurative baseball without thinking twice, but I do limit my actions somewhat in Newbie games.

Fair enough. I don't think you'd hold back against another SE whatsoever though, but maybe I'm wrong. You know yourself better than I obviously.

[StrangeMatter]

Lmao I remembered that game completely wrong.

Cabd was eliminated, it was Illwei who went under the radar (mostly due to a bad idea I had), and I'm still looking for whoever had said that.

[Prism]

Can you elaborate on why ProHawk's "hilarious reaction" bit strikes you as scummy? I thought it very natural, which is why I moved so quickly to try and nip it in the bud so I could hopefully get something useful instead. It's his lack of acknowledgement that this is a deeply-ingrained tendency while sticking to his guns on it that is the red flag for me. I don't see an issue with the defensiveness assertion itself.

[Cabd]

Ah, that game.

It was almost certainly Lukewarm who stated that.

[Cabd]

Can you elaborate on why ProHawk's "hilarious reaction" bit strikes you as scummy? I thought it very natural, which is why I moved so quickly to try and nip it in the bud so I could hopefully get something useful instead. It's his lack of acknowledgement that this is a deeply-ingrained tendency while sticking to his guns on it that is the red flag for me. I don't see an issue with the defensiveness assertion itself.

Dunno how much you know of Hawk and I's history, we come form the same long-dead homesite (Pokegym, RIP non-pokemon archives to make it family friendly) but that used to be a bad habit he had when overwhelmed by a case and having to break it down into bits. Actually we specifically forced ourselves NOT to do that when we hydra'd as scum that one time because it was such a beacon of alignment indication.

In fairness, I don't know if it's true of his recent play, I have not ran a search of any of his recent games so this is like, decade-old memory meta but yeah.

[Prism]

Ah, now that is useful to know.

[Cabd]

Ah, now that is useful to know.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=28438 is the game in question. We played as GoodCop_BadCop.

The psot in particular I am rememebring with a faint smile is this one:

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 0#p4972490

Subject: Mini 1451: A Memory of Light (Game Over)

Demon, I will let the other head address your question.

Amrun! I looked over it again, and I was in fact... sniffing glue.

Still think your case is/was silly on Ghost for the record. What I really didn't understand was how you got to the conclusion that he was treating Milk as town while saying he wasn't town... until you explained it. You really haven't seen scum sheep?

that there was actually a possibility of you being that stupid

But that is neither here nor there.

Can anyone else confirm if Amrun normally is in rage-mode all the time as town? If no one answers/knows I will go meta myself, just don't have time at the moment.