Translation:In post 329, Salsabil Faria wrote:I'm not engaged
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I was going to vote roden after the VC was updated, but now I would rather VOTE: Salsa.In post 340, Almost50 wrote:In post 318, Pavowski wrote:
As promised I re-read. It wasn't much better. Have some terrible reads instead:In post 282, Pavowski wrote:Not deliberately dodging, just unable to do deep reading right now. I will say that I tend to see such conflicts early on as TvT, though I dont think it's particularly towny to be as defensive as they seem.
As for the intervening comments, I will cop to skimming/skipping them and will review later today.
This game went from memery to dead fookin serious faster than I was prepared for.
GL feels town.
Auro feels town.
T3 could be town.
Mc might be town.
Roden and LQ are prob TvT here but if I had to vote one it's probably Roden. I've seen town LQ look like this before.
I would prefer if you gave afull readlist if you're not voting on the spot.In post 319, Pavowski wrote:UNVOTE:
And I'll place a new one after I see the latest VC (not on the pagetop yet)
Salsa always seems to have a bit of chaotic energy that I find hard to read, but I was pinging after the whole "I want to vote roden but not sure I should" thing, which is scum thinking though I don't know why it was verbalized- Salsabil Faria
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Disinterest sure. Dunno about stiffness. Explain that.
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In post 230, Bingle wrote:I was gonna catch up and be useful, but all of the colors are bleeding together. I promise that I'll either catch up tomorrow. Maybe.
Dammit, Bingle. At least call someone a mothertrucker. Or is it too early for that?In post 299, Bingle wrote:Unlike last night, I don't have a legitimate reason to not catch up. I just don't want to. Deal with it, nerds. (Seriously though, I promise to get to this and actually provide content when I'm in a better mafia headspace.)- Galron
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Will an announcement be made?In post 325, DArby wrote:Basically, yeah. This game I want to focus on who I town read the least {target pending}.- Galron
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I think we're using "stiff" this game.In post 78, GuiltyLion wrote:
Do you also scumread my intro post for being somewhat rote?In post 75, Bingle wrote:
VOTE: GLIn post 73, GuiltyLion wrote:Why not vote me then?
Why am I voting you?
Why the TR so early?In post 62, GuiltyLion wrote:Hello hello old friends and new
VOTE: Roden
Didn't like his first post, I think using a past game to justify RVS vote is inherently a lil awkward
Also I like Galron for town- Galron
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Throw meta out.In post 356, Galron wrote:Why the TR so early?- DArby
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Hopefully.In post 355, Galron wrote:
Will an announcement be made?In post 325, DArby wrote:Basically, yeah. This game I want to focus on who I town read the least {target pending}.- Auro
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Posts felt constrained. We played before, and I recall you were involved in (even early) gameplay to a greater degree.
Why... the disinterest?- T3
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KekwIn post 338, Salsabil Faria wrote:In post 336, T3 wrote:
Hi why is me forgetting who I voted scummyIn post 334, Salsabil Faria wrote:In post 327, T3 wrote:VOTE: salsa
Salsa feels EXTREMELY different to how I remember town her.
There’s less emotion and content.In post 332, T3 wrote:
VOTE: salsaIn post 331, mc esther wrote:you randomly moved your vote to a lurker after expressing interest in a wagon that you [apparently?] dont actually feel good about.Rolled scum?Forgets between *some minutes*? I don’t think so... Your eagerness of voting me is scummy.Large Normal 241 is currently in play. PM me if you want to spectate or replace in!
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/37202 is in signups.- Auro
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Why is it scum thinking - why can't town be unsure? Is there a hidden reason scum would be unsure? Is there fault with her reasoning for not being sure?In post 351, Pavowski wrote:Salsa always seems to have a bit of chaotic energy that I find hard to read, but I was pinging after the whole "I want to vote roden but not sure I should" thing, which is scum thinking though I don't know why it was verbalized- Galron
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That LQ/Roden thing sucked all the life out of the game. Did you read it and take away anything from it?In post 359, Auro wrote:Posts felt constrained. We played before, and I recall you were involved in (even early) gameplay to a greater degree.
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Ah, that.
My takeaway is that LQ is very likely town, although I don't recall experiencing his scum game - so I'll have to skim through some.- Galron
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For T3
Spoiler:
All of your scum reads are meta based except for your second vote on Salsa. 1) Are you sure you're not confbiasing with Salsa? 2) if you had no meta on these players, would you be scum reading them?
You did give a town read to DArby that wasn't based on meta, in fact you gave two town reads to DArby that weren't based on meta. Do you town read anyone else? I'm not counting A50 here.- Galron
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Is that a meta read then?In post 363, Auro wrote:Ah, that.
My takeaway is that LQ is very likely town, although I don't recall experiencing his scum game - so I'll have to skim through some.
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A50 absolutely shouldn’t do this.In post 138, mc esther wrote:im happy to say "actually i think cop should investigate doc claims" and leave it at that."He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
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Going all the way to deadline is always a bad idea.In post 138, mc esther wrote:does this mean we should also treat deadlines as slightly shorter than they are? like, this is definitely correct for the most part, but risks no-hammer if the wagon only builds up close to deadline."He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
"I was playing against the timer known as bingle tbh." ~Chennisden
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Why is it scum thinking - why can't town be unsure? Is there a hidden reason scum would be unsure? Is there fault with her reasoning for not being sure?In post 351, Pavowski wrote:Salsa always seems to have a bit of chaotic energy that I find hard to read, but I was pinging after the whole "I want to vote roden but not sure I should" thing, which is scum thinking though I don't know why it was verbalized
Of course town can be unsure. Town *should* be unsure.
What's scum thinking is "I've decided I want to vote this person but I'm not going to" because...? Like imo town just votes there whereas scum is a lot more concerned about how their vote "looks".
I wouldn't consider e-3 the verge of elimination, and if scum is willing to give the game away and quick hammer from that far out, I'd say that's worth letting somebody get quick limmed.Salsabil Faria wrote:You saidRodenwasn't verge of the elimination but they're at E-3 that time and we have 4 scums.- Bingle
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Scum post.In post 133, GuiltyLion wrote:
being fair to Roden, I basically challenged him in my last post to go at me, so I'm not surprised to see him bite back. What I'd like to actually hear from him though is why he thinks my behavior is more likely to come from me as scum than me as town, because that's what's missingIn post 130, LicketyQuickety wrote:This is over aggro. Sort of feels fake."He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
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In post 276, Salsabil Faria wrote:How many votesRodenhas btw?
I'm like want to vote them, also don't want to vote them at the same time
Hm. Still don’t like GL’s entry. Also firmly disagree with P2, and don’t think GL believes it either. Early scrutiny is great for above average scum because it’s not likely to actually go places and it helps explain why you’re not dead in the late game. Also, classic “that’s town because it mirrors NAI/scummy thing I’m doing” here.In post 290, GuiltyLion wrote:my one main salient takeaway from the LQ/Roden bit is that both are making dubious claims on one particular front
Roden in 205 asks LQ if LQ thinks Roden "purposefully puts himself in this situation as scum". Again I think Roden is questionably taking credit for something that I feel I'm responsible for (early wagon/pressure on Roden). The logic of "why would I get wagoned as scum" isn't easy to understand from either a town/scum perspective, it's not clear what Roden specifically thinks that he did to get himself wagoned and whether that was intentional. However I have seen both alignments make the "I wouldn't be wagoned if I were scum here" claim, it's not something I feel comfortable reasoning about as AI but I certainly don't townread it, at best it's WIFOMy.
However, Roden has a point in 209 that LQ agreeing that scum!Roden might indeed intentionally "put himself in this situation" is also a bad take. Scum do not love early scrutiny, in almost any circumstance. I don't see LQ's logic in implying that this COULD be a scum plan - again, how and where did Roden even intentionally invite pressure on himself? Whatever Roden's alignment is, I'm sure he'd rather not be voted and rather not have to argue with people voting him.
I can see what LQ is saying in that LQ just kinda went along with an idea (being intentionally wagoned) that Roden put out there, but it's just such bad reasoning on both sides ("if I were scum, I wouldn't be wagoned") ("no, if you were scum, this might be your plan!!") that I'm having a hard time parsing why either player is taking any of the logic seriously."He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
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Oh the salsa post is also very scummy.
Regardless of whether roden/LQ is t/s t/t s/s or m/w, there’s definitely scum in the cheerleaders. Other potential takers on that pool are T3 and pav from what I’ve seen so far.
LQ is being surprisingly readable/reasonable given the amount of complaining I saw while p dodging. Light townread there. Roden is meh. Not really scummy, but reacted poorly to baiting. Not really towny either, just kinda got pushed into this whole interaction.
Darby is pro town. Mc is either town or trying to pocket Darby. Need to poke there a bit later to see what falls out of the tree."He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
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Townread retracted.In post 294, mc esther wrote:i can see why scum!lickety would want the thread to be the way it is now; and salsabil and t3's meta read had me considering the scum vs. scum interpretation at one point. but i dont find it that compelling, i obviously cant corroborate their reads, and lickety clearly isnt the only person responsible for the state of the thread.
voicing doubts about the wagon in post #289 pings vaguely town. i dont see much reason for him to attempt to disengage as scum, he's very much "winning" as it were. the obvious reason would be "for the town cred", i guess; but scum changing a read after hard tunnelling for multiple pages is pretty gutsy imo."He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
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This is the most moon logicky post I’ve ever read. You could teach a PhD level course on moonlogic, and Titus would walk out of the room saying what the fuck just happened.In post 296, T3 wrote:
I feel like scum would be a little bit more conscious of the fact that they are playing in a game so weak townpoints for thisIn post 97, DArby wrote:Don’t say that. I didn’t fully read the player list and thought I accidentally posted in a game I shouldn’t be in."He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
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