Open 837: Cop Killer - Endgame

[T3]

Enchant also hasn't been doing anything, so some town points. I think scum Enchant would be more proactive.

[T3]

blegh practically all my reads this game are based on meta

[LicketyQuickety]

Enchant also hasn't been doing anything, so some town points. I think scum Enchant would be more proactive.

Weird read, but I can kinda see it since that Enchant was Town in this other game we played that just ended.

[T3]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... ct[]=35064
this was enchant's iso in baton
it's equally barren

[LicketyQuickety]

I probably won't be unvoting Roden until they come in and ObvTown, but I feel like they are waiting for Suspicion on them to drop before returning.

Else, I can see myself voting Salsa here. Salsa has the same sort of weirdness I saw from them when they were Scum.

[Enchant]

Enchant also hasn't been doing anything, so some town points. I think scum Enchant would be more proactive.

Weird read, but I can kinda see it since that Enchant was Town in this other game we played that just ended.

Wow we somehow won it.

Idk townreading me for lurking is mistake, i can do that as both alignments.

[T3]

nvm he has an even more barren ISO in Open 828 (scum game) https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... ct[]=35064

[Almost50]

A50, Pav and the next person to vote me. Only somewhat tongue in cheek.

Unacceptable for 3 reasons:

1- I am conf!Town, so it goes without saying I was asking for your reads on other players
2- The "nekst" player that votes you is an unknown quantity at this time
3- Although my post still looks like I'm shitposting I was/am dead serious. I've decided to actually play the game, so please no tongue in cheek lists

So...

[LicketyQuickety]

nvm he has an even more barren ISO in Open 828 (scum game) https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... ct[]=35064

I guess enchant gets no soup then.

[mc esther]

Whether Roden was actually frustrated or not.

why do you think roden was feigning frustration? im pretty sure that everyone in the thread has come to much the same conclusion, that the posts youre referring to are essentially unreadable -- can you point to anything specific in them, any set of general features, idk, that pinged as "this isnt real"? i know you made a post singling out his reply to "is this back-and-forth actually useful", but that's not all there is to it, right?

also, you seem pretty sure in your read again -- contrast #189 or whichever post it is i referenced earlier, where you seemed to be seriously doubting the read. what happened between then and then and now, what's the thought process that led to tunelling then doubting then a strong read?

i still have roden down as a scumread, but i dont really get your particular take on scum!roden at all.

___________________________________

okay, townreads for the towngod

i've given these first two earlier in the thread, but
1. guiltylion, reasons previously stated, nothing's changed.
2. darby, reasons previously stated, nothing's changed.
3. t3; but this one is pretty null-town, a long, long, long way below (1) and (2). early-game, i was curious about his lack of random vote, so i clicked through some of his most recent completed games (i can link them if you want), and best as i could tell -- though the association is a little weak -- he seems to random vote noticeably more often as scum. it's not just that, it's also some other weak tells like forgetting the game exists, and i have gut-positive feelings towards the way he interacted with the pages of hell. this one's pretty "yeah i guess".

i dont really get how anyone has a read on galron/enchant/auro; and even bingle only pretty recently started posting, it's content but it's pretty, idk, pedestrian. i hope to have a stronger opinion on lq pretty soon.

[Enchant]

nvm he has an even more barren ISO in Open 828 (scum game) https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... ct[]=35064

I guess enchant gets no soup then.

I prefer blood anyway.

Btw it's two days already, why all you staling day?

[LicketyQuickety]

why do you think roden was feigning frustration? im pretty sure that everyone in the thread has come to much the same conclusion, that the posts youre referring to are essentially unreadable -- can you point to anything specific in them, any set of general features, idk, that pinged as "this isnt real"? i know you made a post singling out his reply to "is this back-and-forth actually useful", but that's not all there is to it, right?

also, you seem pretty sure in your read again -- contrast #189 or whichever post it is i referenced earlier, where you seemed to be seriously doubting the read. what happened between then and then and now, what's the thought process that led to tunelling then doubting then a strong read?

I tried to explain that Roden's emotions can be seen as fake based on things like posting "lol" when that's not what comes to mind when someone is frustrated. Also, I said that their dismissing me (which was based on a lot of what I thought Roden was doing) was based on them not explaining what I was ignoring. I don't think frustrated Town has a reason to not explain themselves. I tend to view frustrated Town as wanting to have the person SRing them reevaluate them. That's what makes sense to me.

But at this point my SR on Roden grew stronger when they ditched the thread which I am reading as them doing so so that the votes start to fall off them. I have rarely seen Town do that. Town, if anything, push in a different direction rather than outright just Noping Out of the thread. I was expecting to see some posts from Roden when I got back to the thread (since I wake up so late) but Roden has yet to post since our spat.

[Enchant]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... ct[]=35064
this was enchant's iso in baton
it's equally barren

It's damn example why you should't lurk.

But i can't.

Just can't.

[mc esther]

But at this point my SR on Roden grew stronger when they ditched the thread which I am reading as them doing so so that the votes start to fall off them

but roden had abandoned the thread over ~32 hours before i unvoted him -- and that's just one vote, as far as i can tell from isos, everyone else's vote is still there. and im still not sure i understand where the moment of doubt came from, i read it as a sincere moment of town self-reflection at the time, but im struggling to square that with these subsequent posts.

[Not_Mafia]

VC 1.04

Galron (1)-

Auro

Enchant (1)-

Salsabil Faria

Pavowski (0)-

Almost50 (0)-

Roden (3)-

GuiltyLion, LicketyQuickety, DArby

Bingle (0)-

LicketyQuickety (1)-

Roden

GuiltyLion (1)-

Bingle

Salsabil Faria (3)-

T3, mc esther, Pavowski

DArby (1)-

Enchant

Auro (0)-

mc esther (0)-

T3 (0)-

Not Voting (2)-

Galron, Almost50
With

13

alive, it takes

7

to instantly eliminate.

Deadline is in

(expired on 2021-12-07 10:00:00)

- Dec 7th 10:00 GMT

[LicketyQuickety]

But at this point my SR on Roden grew stronger when they ditched the thread which I am reading as them doing so so that the votes start to fall off them

but roden had abandoned the thread over ~32 hours before i unvoted him -- and that's just one vote, as far as i can tell from isos, everyone else's vote is still there. and im still not sure i understand where the moment of doubt came from, i read it as a sincere moment of town self-reflection at the time, but im struggling to square that with these subsequent posts.

I guess I just am waiting to see what Roden does at this point. But when it was pointed out how unlikely it was for Roden to draw Suspicion, I had a moment of doubt. I think I posted my doubt before GL said what they said, but then after that I was thinking, "Hmm, maybe I'm wrong." IDK, I tend to change my mind a lot. But after thinking about the argument between Roden and myself and sleeping over it, I still think Roden looks bad from that back and forth. That's when I made my summery on my SR of Roden. Then that's combined with Roden not entering the thread since then. So I just want to see what Roden does at this point. In my summary, I was trying to be balanced and not have it be completely biased. So that my summary shouldn't be taken as a "Roden is Lock Scum" post but more of a, "I slept on it, and here's where I think my case is valid" type thing.

[LicketyQuickety]

Also, if Roden is actually Scum here, I totally expect them to keep their vote on me. I think if they are Town they will reevaluate.

[Salsabil Faria]

I feel bored, so I may decide to actually play this game seriously. (Sorry for those this may disappoint)

OK..

First "Dictatorian" Declaration:

I; King of thread and ruler of both Town & Mafia alike; have decided in all my mighty grace to

request

order all of my subjects and minions to each provide a 3-players list of their top TRs (NOT including self).

- You have 24 hours to comply.
- Once submitted you cannot alter your choices.

In no particular order:

Pav

Bingle/LQ

GL

@Enchant

, what's up?

Everything cool.

How you?

Tired af irl, kind of lost in this game.

By inspiring from

LQ

's point:

UNVOTE: Enchant

VOTE: Roden

[Galron]

I'm not doing that.

[LicketyQuickety]

I'm not doing that.

My guess is that A50 has something to cook up for us if we do it. You not playing along is obstinate and not a reason to TR you.

[Bingle]

A50, Pav and the next person to vote me. Only somewhat tongue in cheek.

Unacceptable for 3 reasons:

1- I am conf!Town, so it goes without saying I was asking for your reads on other players
2- The "nekst" player that votes you is an unknown quantity at this time
3- Although my post still looks like I'm shitposting I was/am dead serious. I've decided to actually play the game, so please no tongue in cheek lists

So...

The only players I'm currently townreading are Pav and Darby. Everyone else is null at best.

Also, I don't know who you are, but MY monkey loves having tongues in cheeks.

[LicketyQuickety]

Ah, that.

My takeaway is that LQ is very likely town, although I don't recall experiencing his scum game - so I'll have to skim through some.

Although this is a light game, I'm quite proud of it.

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/26012

[Pavowski]

vc

VC 1.04

Galron (1)-

Auro

Enchant (1)-

Salsabil Faria

Pavowski (0)-

Almost50 (0)-

Roden (3)-

GuiltyLion, LicketyQuickety, DArby

Bingle (0)-

LicketyQuickety (1)-

Roden

GuiltyLion (1)-

Bingle

Salsabil Faria (2)-

T3, mc esther

DArby (1)-

Enchant

Auro (0)-

mc esther (0)-

T3 (0)-

Not Voting (3)-

Galron, Almost50, Pavowski

With

13

alive, it takes

7

to instantly eliminate.

Deadline is in

(expired on 2021-12-07 10:00:00)

- Dec 7th 10:00 GMT

I voted for Salsabil I thought, but just to make sure VOTE: Salsa

[Pavowski]

FYI, my play style is scummy as any alignment.

@Pav

, if I'm concerned about *looking bad*, why I made the post in the 1st place?

This *is* an issue with giving you a full-throated scumread, but you'll notice I made exactly this point when I posted about you in the first place.

[Pavowski]

Also, if Roden is actually Scum here, I totally expect them to keep their vote on me. I think if they are Town they will reevaluate.

If I were scum!Roden here I'm reevaluating now, wheee