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Post Post #475 (ISO) » Mon Nov 29, 2021 1:07 pm

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Somehow staying in fifth despite moving to 6-6 and 0-4 in the division. Probably going to be me, PJ, and PEG at 6-6 fighting for two spots, with Kilga and maybe Groose a game back.
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Post Post #476 (ISO) » Mon Nov 29, 2021 5:00 pm

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We are about to have 4 people tied at 4-8 in league 1! lol!
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Post Post #477 (ISO) » Tue Nov 30, 2021 4:34 am

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Can BrightEyedFish drop one of their SIX running backs for the love of god lmfao
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Post Post #478 (ISO) » Tue Nov 30, 2021 6:16 am

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In post 475, D3f3nd3r wrote:Somehow staying in fifth despite moving to 6-6 and 0-4 in the division. Probably going to be me, PJ, and PEG at 6-6 fighting for two spots, with Kilga and maybe Groose a game back.
I'll need a lot to go my way to be a factor given I'm eventually facing KK with my best player on a bye week :(
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Post Post #479 (ISO) » Tue Nov 30, 2021 3:48 pm

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Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Can BrightEyedFish drop one of their SIX running backs for the love of god lmfao
Does yahoo have settings that can be used to limit how many of any one position are on your team? Not just starters but that position in total?

I know we are not using them, but it would be interesting to see a league that limits how many you can have of each position
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Post Post #480 (ISO) » Wed Dec 01, 2021 1:20 am

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In post 463, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 458, PJ. wrote:Edit: And i'm pretty sure that post season as never affected relegation but if we could get confirmation on that won't be the case this year from Nero, and/or a fact check from d3f the king of facts that'd be great.
to be honest I haven't paid much attention to the consolation bracket. I was under the impression that it was mostly funzies and didn't have the ability to change your ranking but if you look at last year racefan won the 5th place game and tally won the 7th place game and they both finished 5th and 7th so its possible that you can improve on your rank.

From what I understand, your consolation bracket will mirror your championship bracket so 7th and 8th will be bye week 15. 9 and 12 will play, and 10 and 11.

I believe that we have always used after so status quo?
Yeah, but the 7-12 teams are in a consolation bracket this year, when they weren't before. You need to tell us if this consolation bracket that you accidentally put us all in by screwing the playoff settings up matters in terms of relegation, preferably before the penultimate and last weeks of the season.
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Post Post #481 (ISO) » Wed Dec 01, 2021 1:26 am

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In post 477, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Can BrightEyedFish drop one of their SIX running backs for the love of god lmfao
I also have six RBs! And I could realistically see myself starting any of the six of them over the next 2-3 weeks!
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Post Post #482 (ISO) » Wed Dec 01, 2021 2:07 am

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In post 480, PJ. wrote:Yeah, but the 7-12 teams are in a consolation bracket this year, when they weren't before. You need to tell us if this consolation bracket that you accidentally put us all in by screwing the playoff settings up matters in terms of relegation, preferably before the penultimate and last weeks of the season.
no?

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Post Post #483 (ISO) » Wed Dec 01, 2021 4:08 am

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Prior to this year 9-12 were not in consolation bracket.

So post season does not affect relegation?
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Post Post #484 (ISO) » Wed Dec 01, 2021 7:53 am

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Seems like only 7-10 will be in the consolation after all.

Sorry for being slow, I get it now. This is our first year with slots that are normally auto-relegated but now stand the chance of ending the season in 7th or 8th and eh...I mean, in the past we've always used final standings but back then the consolation bracket was meaningless. So status quo/tradition might say that we should stick with that but I could see where ppl might think it's unfair to make 7 and 8 "defend" their slots.

In a way, I do like the idea that the consolation bracket means something but then maybe the right play is to just ignore the consolation bracket and relegate based on end of week 14.

but everything is set up right, it's just a matter of debate. If I had to make a decision as commish then I'd just say we ignore the consolation bracket. I will be sure the write down the standings in case the consolation bracket does change things
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Post Post #485 (ISO) » Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:28 am

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In post 479, PokerFace wrote:Does yahoo have settings that can be used to limit how many of any one position are on your team? Not just starters but that position in total?
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Post Post #486 (ISO) » Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:10 am

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In post 484, Nero Cain wrote:Seems like only 7-10 will be in the consolation after all.
I’m still seeing 7-12
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Post Post #487 (ISO) » Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:17 am

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oh yeah, I see it.
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Post Post #488 (ISO) » Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:54 am

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I would personally not mind the consolation bracket mattering in terms of determining who gets relegated, but I can understand that others would prefer to not deviate from beginning-of-season expectations (as much as I'm not sure how anyone would have managed their team differently up to this point).
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Post Post #489 (ISO) » Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:58 am

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I'm mostly indifferent. I think the idea that the consolation bracket is meaningful is neat but then just ignoring it and sticking to what we've done is ok.
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Post Post #490 (ISO) » Wed Dec 01, 2021 1:32 pm

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I'm cool with it mattering next year, if we know ahead of time that's the case. I think it's weird to introduce that 10 days before playoffs starts (especially w/ the commissioner standing to gain from doing so).
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Post Post #491 (ISO) » Wed Dec 01, 2021 3:10 pm

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ummmm its been that way since the start of the season, nothing was changed.
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Post Post #492 (ISO) » Wed Dec 01, 2021 3:38 pm

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my last league edit was 3 months ago nor was I the one that brought it up. It's just something that didn't get talked about earlier and just recently got brought up.
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Post Post #493 (ISO) » Wed Dec 01, 2021 5:16 pm

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I was hoping it did matter given where I was after Henry went down, but I got Jamal Williams and Mattison. Gambled on Swift and Cook getting hurt, and they did. I do not like being vulture, but so many others have done same. Was only chance I had. So given I feel I can actually fight back now, I am good with whatever. I think we start it mattering next year is more fair.

Crazily I think I have a slight chance at playoffs still given standings of three 6-6 teams in places 5,6,7 and I am at 9th with 4-8. Now is the more accurate time for...

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Post Post #494 (ISO) » Thu Dec 02, 2021 5:46 am

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In post 491, Nero Cain wrote:ummmm its been that way since the start of the season, nothing was changed.

It wasn't that way last year. It was never said or discussed that their would be a consolation bracket. YOU DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THERE WAS A 6 PERSON PLAYOFF AND CONSOLATION BRACKET. (Which were both 4 last year).

But *none* of that matters. My only point is..post season has never mattered to relegation in the past(because the people being relegated weren't playing) so introducing that 2 weeks before playoffs is fucked up. Especially when you stand to gain from it. That is literally my only point. I do not think you planned this, I think you accidentally changed the settings or yahoo changed them w/ the nfl season changes. I do not think this is intentional in anyway. My only point is, prior to like 2 days ago, nobody knew or thought that there was a post season to avoid relegation and I want you to tell me that the post-season does not count. Preferably in one clear and concise sentence, so that we aren't arguing about this in 3 weeks or 7 months.
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Post Post #495 (ISO) » Thu Dec 02, 2021 12:55 pm

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In post 494, PJ. wrote:It was never said or discussed that their would be a consolation bracket.
THERE IS ONE EVERY SINGLE YEAR.


The only difference is that it has more this year and we
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make it meaningful but it's just a yahoo function and not something that I or Mith before me has to like setup.
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In post 494, PJ. wrote:My only point is..post season has never mattered to relegation in the past(because the people being relegated weren't playing) so introducing that 2 weeks before playoffs is fucked up.
again. I was not the one that brought this up nor did I suggest that is what we are doing. Honestly? Yeah, it would be nice if I could win the bracket and salvage my season but realistically that's probably not going to happen. Most of us (including me which you keep conveniently ignoring) seem to not care one way or the other with you being the loudest. I'm not a big fan of the "we can't change anything/make decisions for our current season" and if we were to implement this 2 weeks before the playoffs I don't think it would be "unfair".
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Post Post #496 (ISO) » Thu Dec 02, 2021 5:43 pm

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In post 495, Nero Cain wrote:I'm not a big fan of the "we can't change anything/make decisions for our current season"
If you genuinely believe this then please step down after this season
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Post Post #497 (ISO) » Thu Dec 02, 2021 7:25 pm

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I'm not changing anything though...
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Post Post #498 (ISO) » Thu Dec 02, 2021 9:44 pm

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. Except you did. You literally changed the playoff without asking anyone. Remember that big ballot you sent out before the season? Why the fuck wasn't that on it. No one said anything because no one was aware because you changed the shit w/o telling anyone AND without figuring out how relegation would be handled given the rules that you changed without input. And the fact that you are trying to be like "I didn't do anything" here is truly a mark of a person w/ 0 integrity. You're not running this shit next year.
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Post Post #499 (ISO) » Thu Dec 02, 2021 9:49 pm

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Like even in this very conversation you went 'oh, I didn't know anything about the consolation bracket" to "yeah I changed it all intentionally".
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