Newbie 2084: Signs [game over!]

[ProHawk]

Why do you keep trying to throw shade (that's what it feels like) onto people?

You're the only person I have mentioned, and yes, you are my top pick for scum so it would only be natural to call attention to you?

Maybe you could help me and give me a nice good reads list and reason why you still don't have a vote out (again)?

[Greeting]

Inb4 the scumteam is

MegAzumarill

and

ProHawk

. This isn’t newbie play. They weren’t town PR hunting, they just wanted to kill two birds with one stone and simply got lucky while doing it.

You're both saying it's the other with ProHawk... you should unite and vote ProHawk!

@Greeting I checked the post you said pointed towards Mueh being townie, but....I don't quite get this logic? Kind of want to know why you think what they said comes from town I mean.

My soft townlean on

Meuh

isn't very strong, but it's still a townlean. I would refer you to my wallread in 224 for their posts before that.
I would say that their posts after their wallread in 189 are pretty consistent.
Post 233, as their reply to my accusations towards them makes sense and to be fair, I'm buying it. It also occurred to me that one can hold onto an inaccurate read and do a 180 on someone upon further analysis. Scums generally worry about being inconsistent far more than genuine townies.
Their reasons for voting you are genuine and remind me of my push on you from N2082. I would probably have joined had it not been for the meta I knew from that game. As a matter of fact, I was making notes of this in my PT, even before that game came to an end. I remembered to judge you basing on whether you would flip town or scum in that game. Post 316 exemplifies that case in a good way. It's just like with

Prism

's push on me regarding my PT reveal - even if wrong, it is a genuine thing to suspect someone for and shows town thinking.
I also don't think a scum would lecture me on how to play, posts like 268 and 355 come from a place of genuine concern.
On top of that, I agree with their reads, and they've said things I was thinking about unprompted. (post 673 for instance)
Their carefulness and shifting away from the

MegAzumarill

wagon is a town sign. Though the evaluation of this might change in my eyes later in the game, if

MegAzumarill

is a potential elimination and they decide on someone who I think is townie. But I think it's unlikely given that our reads seem to align.

There are some things I find questionable about them. Like their very certain townread on me in 505. Obviously it's correct, but that seems overly confident. Even

Cape90

voiced some bigger concern about me. Post 713 seems to soften this a bit though.

Overall, I'm definitely not voting out

Meuh

today.

[Cape90]

Let's not stall out here.
Let's get a general consensus with 2-3 IRL days on the calendar and not run down to the wire in case we need to make a change in decision *last mintue*

I have seen a lot of people throwing out StrangeMatter on their list of mafia candidates, why isn't there more of a push here?

Why do you keep trying to throw shade (that's what it feels like) onto people?

Because he knows your town and with this shade he is throwing at you, he believes that he can start a misvote on you through this message.

Oh I mean, if ProHawk is mafia that is :p

[Greeting]

Let's not stall out here.
Let's get a general consensus with 2-3 IRL days on the calendar and not run down to the wire in case we need to make a change in decision *last mintue*

I have seen a lot of people throwing out StrangeMatter on their list of mafia candidates, why isn't there more of a push here?

Why do you keep trying to throw shade (that's what it feels like) onto people?

Because he knows your town and with this shade he is throwing at you, he believes that he can start a misvote on you through this message.

Oh I mean, if ProHawk is mafia that is :p

Yeah, I was thinking that too. Obviously I mistakenly started talking about Titus instead of

Prism

and this created some confusion, but continuing that seemed like an attempt at derailing and deflecting attention.

[ProHawk]

If you're paying attention to the game, why in the hell would you mistake Prism for Titus? Like where is that even a link? Even if you were playing a game with Titus somewhere else, where is that crossover? Honestly, re-reading MegAzumarill's posts and trying to figure out what he sees in scum-you I think I'm getting some of the same now.

Vote: Greeting

[ProHawk]

Let's not stall out here.
Let's get a general consensus with 2-3 IRL days on the calendar and not run down to the wire in case we need to make a change in decision *last mintue*

I have seen a lot of people throwing out StrangeMatter on their list of mafia candidates, why isn't there more of a push here?

Why do you keep trying to throw shade (that's what it feels like) onto people?

Because he knows your town and with this shade he is throwing at you, he believes that he can start a misvote on you through this message.

Oh I mean, if ProHawk is mafia that is :p

Would you like to engage with me, or just call me mafia all day without any balls to actually vote me?

[Greeting]

If you're paying attention to the game, why in the hell would you mistake Prism for Titus? Like where is that even a link? Even if you were playing a game with Titus somewhere else, where is that crossover?

Because they're both female and, in my eyes, were senior figures and experienced players in their respective games.

[ProHawk]

Just do me a favor.
Read this

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go

And I swear you won't be able to tell me it's the same Greeting.

It is night and day

Okay so I read this... at least his ISO. For me, I can see some differences, but nothing that stands to personally as what you call as "night and day".

Now, what I did find interesting is a sift through your ISO because of the comments you had made regarding your push on Greeting *NOT* being optimistic which was my impression at the start of the day because I didn't remember how much you were pushing him D1. You are quite correct in that it's probably the furthest from an optimistic push.

The part that really resonated with me was:

You were irreparable scum in their eyes and you knew it.
You would have to kill them at some point this game or you would lose. And each day their vote only grows stronger

and

Probably feared investigative prism? They would need to kill them at some point.

Prohawk Greeting makes a lot of sense if it's a tracker setup tbh.

[Greeting]

My list to eliminate today is:

MegAzumarill

,

ProHawk

and

StrangeMatter

in that order.

Maybe I just biased myself so hard into this, but I just cannot see

any

scum outside this pool.

[ProHawk]

If you're paying attention to the game, why in the hell would you mistake Prism for Titus? Like where is that even a link? Even if you were playing a game with Titus somewhere else, where is that crossover?

Because they're both female and, in my eyes, were senior figures and experienced players in their respective games.

Titus posts nothing like Prism from my experience

[ProHawk]

My list to eliminate today is:

MegAzumarill

,

ProHawk

and

StrangeMatter

in that order.

Maybe I just biased myself so hard into this, but I just cannot see

any

scum outside this pool.

Why not StrangeMatter first?

at the end of D1 you weren't willing to vote StrangeMatter at all. What changed?

[Greeting]

If you're paying attention to the game, why in the hell would you mistake Prism for Titus? Like where is that even a link? Even if you were playing a game with Titus somewhere else, where is that crossover?

Because they're both female and, in my eyes, were senior figures and experienced players in their respective games.

Titus posts nothing like Prism from my experience

I don't know what to tell you, and I don't know where you're going with this. If you think that the two posts where I accidentally mentioned Titus are not paying attention to the game, then I can only ask to look at the remaining 112, maybe except the few where I was obviously giffing and meme-ing.

My list to eliminate today is:

MegAzumarill

,

ProHawk

and

StrangeMatter

in that order.

Maybe I just biased myself so hard into this, but I just cannot see

any

scum outside this pool.

Why not StrangeMatter first?

at the end of D1 you weren't willing to vote StrangeMatter at all. What changed?

Because of meta I have on them from N2082. Their play style seems to be a match to that game.

[Greeting]

MegAzumarill

is lurking. Care to join us once you're done discussing in the scum thread?

[Greeting]

Also, voting

StrangeMatter

at the end of D1 would be a

blunder

given the fact that there were two other wagons formed and a vanity vote at that stage of the game risked noelim.

[MegAzumarill]

Nah I don't think I will

[MegAzumarill]

I don't have anything to add atm. I want to see how your partner reacts :p

[marcistar]

I don’t like having anyone on E-1 at the moment

Marci why did you vote Meg?

1. i didnt realize that was e-1 sorry about that LOL
2. so that my partner could hammer ofc!!! (i just liked the vote, i think megazmarills scum )

I am not the lim today.
This game is pretty much solved from my perspective.

Meuh and Cape are almost definitely town.
Prohawk is not s/s with marcistar.

I am town.

Therefore we have 5 scumteam options: Greeting with strange, prohawk, or Marci.
Or strangematter with Marci/prohawk.

A Greeting into strangehawk lim guarantees we make it to d4 at least. If I get limped we likely lose lylo

I am not the lim today.

Meuh and Cape are almost definitely town.

I am town.
see its so easy to say this, show proof that ur town bestie!!!

I'm open to a marci elimination though.

same

Just do me a favor.
Read this

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go

And I swear you won't be able to tell me it's the same Greeting.

It is night and day

how much experience does greeting have with playing? maybe hes just trying a new style

whats pot shots mean here..?

"the chances of prohawk being town are low, but never 0"

":shifty: is cabd scum..?"

"whered u talk abt ur meg azumarill read..?

or did u not..

?"

"prohawk did u already say what u think of strangematter or no..?"

Examples of slinging mud from the sidelines. What I call pot-shots.

aaaah i c, i still dont know what it means because im stupid but what i was doing in some of those was i was trying to leave room for people to talk w me abbt it

I have seen a lot of people throwing out StrangeMatter on their list of mafia candidates, why isn't there more of a push here?

valid question actually
idk they just havent done much compared to some others

If you're paying attention to the game, why in the hell would you mistake Prism for Titus? Like where is that even a link? Even if you were playing a game with Titus somewhere else, where is that crossover? Honestly, re-reading MegAzumarill's posts and trying to figure out what he sees in scum-you I think I'm getting some of the same now.

Vote: Greeting

this is within the top 2 scummiest posts of all game sigh

If you're paying attention to the game, why in the hell would you mistake Prism for Titus? Like where is that even a link? Even if you were playing a game with Titus somewhere else, where is that crossover?

Because they're both female and, in my eyes, were senior figures and experienced players in their respective games.

Titus posts nothing like Prism from my experience

pls im so confused werent u just confused abt who titus is and if titus and prism are the same people why are u talking about ur experiences now like this-

[ProHawk]

pls im so confused werent u just confused abt who titus is and if titus and prism are the same people why are u talking about ur experiences now like this-

I was confused about WHY Titus was being mentioned in THIS game. I've played games with Titus, a few of them IIRC although it has been quite some time.

this is within the top 2 scummiest posts of all game sigh

I can do this too...

[ProHawk]

I don't have anything to add atm. I want to see how your partner reacts :p

Partner attacks the attacker for him.

[ProHawk]

Because of meta I have on them from N2082. Their play style seems to be a match to that game.

So scum can't match their playstyle?

You yourself said you've never seen scum-StrangeMatter... regardless, my views have now changed. It's between Marci and Strange at this point.

[ProHawk]

I don't have anything to add atm. I want to see how your partner reacts :p

Partner attacks the attacker for him.

What's the name of that?

Chainsaw?

[marcistar]

[Cape90]

the whole titus thing with prohawk and greeting is pretty clearly to me a whole lotta talk about a whole lotta nothing.

[Cape90]

I don’t think what

MegAzumarill

is doing is opportunistic at all, it’s a deliberate plan which involves killing one dangerous slot (

Prism

) and selectively using their reads to implicate another (myself).

is this not at least sore of oppurtunistic?

[marcistar]

pls im so confused werent u just confused abt who titus is and if titus and prism are the same people why are u talking about ur experiences now like this-

I was confused about WHY Titus was being mentioned in THIS game. I've played games with Titus, a few of them IIRC although it has been quite some time.

oh but im still confused

Who the F is Titus? I've heard this name before but it's been a looong time.

doesnt the way u word this make it seem like u completely forgot ur experiences with her ? T_T

I can do this too...

imagine scumreading someone enough to vote them based off of them by accident saying a wrong name such a lame and boring and scummy way to scumhunt

I don't have anything to add atm. I want to see how your partner reacts :p

Partner attacks the attacker for him.

What's the name of that?

Chainsaw?

yes im pretty sure its called chainsaw
is that what u think im doing, cuz it really aint what im doing