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Post Post #2400 (ISO) » Thu Dec 02, 2021 1:04 pm

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In post 2395, Fun and Games wrote:Ironically enuf i would give more weight to a50's read
and why's that?
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Post Post #2401 (ISO) » Thu Dec 02, 2021 1:05 pm

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why did pooky suddenly get bored with the game after the gamma flip?
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Post Post #2402 (ISO) » Thu Dec 02, 2021 1:06 pm

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In post 2399, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 2393, Fun and Games wrote:And if he was having fun as scum with andante yesterday, why does he suddenly choose to become guarded, this isnt even internally consistant .
Because gamma flipped green. You need to be sufficiently contrite.

Acting erratically is more likely to draw attention after a miselim. And you post much more rationally and calmly skitter.
I'm not contrite at all, and dont regret the flip. Gamma looked like an ico partner

I am also incredibly confident that pooky can talk off the gamma misflip if we were scum

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Post Post #2403 (ISO) » Thu Dec 02, 2021 1:07 pm

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In post 2400, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 2395, Fun and Games wrote:Ironically enuf i would give more weight to a50's read
and why's that?
He knows how to read me, and has demonstrated it by reading me properly numerous times

And for your other question: idk we havent spoke abt the game since night

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Post Post #2404 (ISO) » Thu Dec 02, 2021 1:09 pm

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I saw a thing that might be a scumslip and I want everyone who didn't hypoclaim yesterday to do so immediately.
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Post Post #2405 (ISO) » Thu Dec 02, 2021 1:09 pm

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If you did hypoclaim yesterday please repeat yourself so I don't have to go searching.
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Post Post #2406 (ISO) » Thu Dec 02, 2021 1:14 pm

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In post 2397, Fun and Games wrote:VOTE: vpbaltar

This is nonsense and seems like you're trying to construct a narrative

Pedit ya i agree

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I am indeed trying to figure out the motivations of people, and that involves me trying to understand why people in the game are acting they way they are and pushing the people they're pushing.

Prior to voting me, you were voting Dwlee....which felt very limp and lhf.

My theory of the game after N1 definitely involved Gamma. It made a lot of sense in terms of associatives to yeet him. When he flipped green, it pretty much blew up my worldview of the game. I needed to reconsider my own assumptions, obviously.

That leaves two possible scenarios. Either it's something really simple like Enchant+Toog (which doesn't quite feel like it fits with the A50 NK), or we have at least 1 deep wolf in the game. Of you and Bingle, I think you're the most likely candidate there.
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Post Post #2407 (ISO) » Thu Dec 02, 2021 1:14 pm

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In post 2381, Bingle wrote:
In post 2325, Dwlee99 wrote:SA/Bingle team
Was this a real thing? Why?

Have you read like any of our interactions?
I had you/sa/a50/gamma at the bottom of my list and then two of those 4 flipped town which left y'all

but yea I don't think that's a coherent solve at this point
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Post Post #2408 (ISO) » Thu Dec 02, 2021 1:16 pm

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In post 2406, VP Baltar wrote:Prior to voting me, you were voting Dwlee....which felt very limp and lhf.
It was limp, sure. I admitted as much later on. I still think you're trying to find reasons to scumread us, and dont actually do

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Post Post #2409 (ISO) » Thu Dec 02, 2021 1:16 pm

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If I'm a cop I got an inno on toog
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Post Post #2410 (ISO) » Thu Dec 02, 2021 1:17 pm

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In post 2167, Fun and Games wrote:we r hypocopping an inno on SA
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Post Post #2411 (ISO) » Thu Dec 02, 2021 1:17 pm

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In post 2403, Fun and Games wrote:He knows how to read me, and has demonstrated it by reading me properly numerous times
I will read A50's ISO and see what he says about you. Dats as well.

The reason I brought up Gamma and Cakez is because as I was rereading your ISO, it was obvious they were going after you a bit. So, in your defense, you are much less likely to be responding to positive comments about you.
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Post Post #2412 (ISO) » Thu Dec 02, 2021 1:19 pm

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If I'm a cop, I have an innocent on Dwlee.
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Post Post #2413 (ISO) » Thu Dec 02, 2021 1:20 pm

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In post 2407, Dwlee99 wrote:but yea I don't think that's a coherent solve at this point
I don't think me being partnered with SA was a coherent solve D1, tbh. Like, I've been poking him aggressively for info since the word go.

Also, I just realized that SA slipped back into the not linking his posts to the context and I'm not sure how to take that given the long conversation about the scum motivation behind that.
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Post Post #2414 (ISO) » Thu Dec 02, 2021 1:25 pm

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In post 2392, VP Baltar wrote:No it doesn't mean his reads are right, but I've never played with you skitter. Two players who have and who I know are town said your posting style felt off to them very early on. Why should I not consider that?
Yeah, okay, that's the relevant one.

Show me where and who said this, cause iirc I'm the one who thought skitter was off D1, and I don't see how you could possibly know I'm town without having copped me.
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Post Post #2415 (ISO) » Thu Dec 02, 2021 1:26 pm

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In post 224, SirCakez wrote:Skitter's posting feels tonally off. Not like her usual self. Kinda awkward.
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Post Post #2416 (ISO) » Thu Dec 02, 2021 1:29 pm

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In post 2390, VP Baltar wrote:Also, pooky is bored, but ready to drop a response the moment I vote you? okee dokee.
We had a disagreement on reads and I defer to skitter when that happens because she is awesome and much more invested in this game :3
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Post Post #2417 (ISO) » Thu Dec 02, 2021 1:31 pm

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In post 1182, Fun and Games wrote:
In post 1095, SirCakez wrote:Skitter is definitely a strong player - I'm just paranoid here because they are good at snowing me and when they are town I feel I get a certain vibe from their play that I am not getting here.
Gonna point out that i believe i was actually scum in many of those instances >.>

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Post Post #2418 (ISO) » Thu Dec 02, 2021 1:33 pm

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In post 2363, VP Baltar wrote:That my friends is called a bear trap.

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Post Post #2419 (ISO) » Thu Dec 02, 2021 1:35 pm

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In post 2414, Bingle wrote:
In post 2392, VP Baltar wrote:No it doesn't mean his reads are right, but I've never played with you skitter. Two players who have and who I know are town said your posting style felt off to them very early on. Why should I not consider that?
Yeah, okay, that's the relevant one.

Show me where and who said this, cause iirc I'm the one who thought skitter was off D1, and I don't see how you could possibly know I'm town without having copped me.
oh, i see the confusion. I was referring to Gamma and Cakez because they are flipped and we know their alignment. I don't know your alignment and wasn't talking about you.

Though in going back again to find the quote, it may have only been Cakez who said it early on. Gamma's scum accusations against F&G came later in the day.
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Post Post #2420 (ISO) » Thu Dec 02, 2021 1:36 pm

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In post 2366, Fun and Games wrote:Not sure what you're saying with the second one
I was pointing out the scum motivation I see in qh-ing on D2. Not sure how I feel about the qh on D1, tbh.
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Post Post #2421 (ISO) » Thu Dec 02, 2021 1:43 pm

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In post 2419, VP Baltar wrote:Gamma's scum accusations against F&G came later in the day.
And also were quite clearly rageOMGUS, not "Skitter's play is off."

VOTE: VP

Maybe I'm being greedy, but I think VP TMI'd me as town here.
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Post Post #2422 (ISO) » Thu Dec 02, 2021 1:48 pm

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In post 2421, Bingle wrote:And also were quite clearly rageOMGUS
How am I OMGUSing when they weren't voting me?
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Post Post #2423 (ISO) » Thu Dec 02, 2021 1:48 pm

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In post 2413, Bingle wrote:
In post 2407, Dwlee99 wrote:but yea I don't think that's a coherent solve at this point
I don't think me being partnered with SA was a coherent solve D1, tbh. Like, I've been poking him aggressively for info since the word go.

Also, I just realized that SA slipped back into the not linking his posts to the context and I'm not sure how to take that given the long conversation about the scum motivation behind that.
This was day 2... and I already explained it wasn't explicitly a you/SA solve, it was a poe with both of you in it. Are you bothering to read my posts?
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Post Post #2424 (ISO) » Thu Dec 02, 2021 1:51 pm

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so during my conversation with Skitter last night

I tried to sell her on VPB-scum but she didn't think it was right but now she does so! :3


This is the last VC before D1-End:

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Dwlee then votes for Gamma to put him at E-1 "I can sheep this"

then our hero-monkey A50 posts this beauty:

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This post flips the momentum on the wagons from Gamma dying d1 6-3 to 5-4 and if gamma flips suddenly Darby is leading.


Reading the aftermath - the only person who pushes back against A50 vote flipping is VPB:

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This post kind of makes no sense because;

what does he hate about this post from A50? There's no reasoning given! It's just trying to shove A50 back on the Gamma-wagon by berating him..

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