Open 836: Pick Your Poison (Game Over)

[Andante]

UNVOTE:

BTW. I'm totally unsure now if you're being you or scum. So well played if the latter.

this is the classic “I’m gonna say this so you stop tunneling me” like unvoting and the whole “idk on you now, could be scum though”

if you were town, I really don’t see how you could even think pooky/skitter are scum motivated, they’re not misrepping what you said, saying very clear reasons you’re scum and you don’t have good answers

[Andante]

So yeah, Vote VP and move on to next day folks. Toog is likely partner, I agree there, toog has been crazy silent on VP stuff

[VP Baltar]

they’re not misrepping what you said, saying very clear reasons you’re scum and you don’t have good answers

There were several misreps in that mix, which I clearly pointed out.

The one valid suspicion I would have if I was him would be asking questions about my question to A50, which I explained from my perspective. Pooky can take or leave whether he believes that. The chainsaw argument is a serious reach if you look at the context of the discussion I had with SA, especially since I was questioning myself from the start and asking people if I was having tunnelvision on him. You don't undermine your own read confidence if you're truly chainsawing. That's like tying your hands behind your back.

You however have done nothing this game and still can't answer your thought process on flip flopping reads on me on short notice.

[VP Baltar]

Toog is likely partner, I agree there,

Who said toog is a VP!scum partner?

[Andante]

I will talk to anyone except VP here, and answer questions from anyone except VP, normally I interact with my sr to see if I'm sure, but this guy is genuinely frustrating me, I was getting frustrated reading his stuff with others, and here, the stuff he's saying, genuinely trying to anger me, so nah not doing this. if anyone needs me, I'm here just @ me, otherwise, I'm just not talking to VP, putting this bias aside, I do think he flips scum, so yeah.

[Bingle]

It do be looking like VP can’t argue against the core issue (bad associative with ico) and is looking to attack any weak angle of the push in order to survive.

Vp

Why do you have him as specifically panda aligned andante?

[Bingle]

VOTE: Vp

Turns out vote tags don’t work if you don’t add them

[VP Baltar]

I will talk to anyone except VP here, and answer questions from anyone except VP, normally I interact with my sr to see if I'm sure, but this guy is genuinely frustrating me, I was getting frustrated reading his stuff with others, and here, the stuff he's saying, genuinely trying to anger me, so nah not doing this. if anyone needs me, I'm here just @ me, otherwise, I'm just not talking to VP, putting this bias aside, I do think he flips scum, so yeah.

^if we flip me today, check this post for future review.

Giant AtE as an excuse to not answer questions that potentially reveal Andante's scum motivation.

[Dwlee99]

Was that 7 pages of associative reasoning

[VP Baltar]

Toog is likely partner, I agree there,

Who said toog is a VP!scum partner?

I'll go ahead and answer this for Andante so she doesn't get frustrated.

No one said this. It also makes absolutely no sense. I spent much of D1 trying to get a Dunn yeet....which is now the Toog slot.

Andante is trying to chain misyeets, but fucked up and thought someone else had mentioned Toog in relation to me.

It's possible Andante just confused dwlee and Toog since they are both low content slots, but the instant defensiveness and poor me act to being asked a simple question is a red flag.

[Dwlee99]

Ooh I see the words chainsaw defense. Something that isn't pure associatives

[VP Baltar]

It do be looking like VP can’t argue against the core issue (bad associative with ico)

Which aspects would you like me to address? Don't feel like I was asked all that many questions or specifics, just got in a spam fight with pooky (which he had the advantage of being on a computer with my iso open, and I was operating from old man memory and a phone) - but I can go back and explain specific contexts with quotes and shit if there are specifics you want to hear.

[Toogeloo]

Town:
VP
F&G
SA

PoE:
Enchant
Andante
Bingle
Dwlee

Of those PoE, I lean dwlee as more than likely town.

[Toogeloo]

Enchant feels obvious, and I'm frustrated that everyone else has their own agenda, and is ignoring Enchant.

[Andante]

PoE:
Andante

in what world am I in the poe??

[Dwlee99]

For Bingle's request:
Andante - I think town for the energy that went into day two, but she has fallen off and I'm less sure of this now. I think her and VP are unlikely to both be scum so a red flip there would secure her as town for me.
Toogeloo - Town cause cop inno
Sleepless Assassin - I don't think I got a chance to see SA before this day phase so they were previously just poe. I want to townread them now just for the wall posts on the associatives but also it's just so much associatives and I want more reasoning from them that isn't fundamentally tied to that before I will feel really good about this slot.

Everyone else I'm big ??????? right now

So that's...

Bingle
Enchant
F&G
VP

I think F&G's push looks like how I bus so?

[VP Baltar]

Dwlee, what do you think of andante's AtE above?

[VP Baltar]

I think F&G's push looks like how I bus so?

Does this mean you plan to vote me? I would like to know if I need to spend today putting a final thoughts post together

[Andante]

Not_Mafia would be receiving his third prod this day phase right about now. Instead, he's getting replaced.

The most just outcome!

I've never played a game with a mod I loved more

this is actually p funny if you're scum with NM hehehe

which kind of makes sense imo because if skitter's push on dwlee was on a townie I think you just sheep her and let her kill dwlee for you

but since dwlee is mafia you are going to chainsaw us

meh read the wrong name, not my problem, at least I read yalls 10 pages

how sure are you on dunn being scum?

70%?

I'm interested in hearing from you if you think his play differs here from when he was scum with you on D1. Just feel like I've tried to give him opportunities to engage with me in a real way, and he's trying to end those as fast as possible to return to lurking. It's major bad vibes for me.

I feel better about yeeting there than most anywhere else. Sleepless has given me some bad vibes as well. I maybe feel like giving Gamma a pass for today because I can't say I have a great track record reading him.

I guess if my vote is needed on the Ico wagon to finish it, I'm not opposed, but it feels slightly too popular for ambiguous reasons to me.

weird as fuck soft defense of Ico-slot while pushing Dunn for weird reasons

Weird push on dunn, cause you'd be trying to bus. and if dunn/icon were your partners, it's quite the coincidence both replaced out. sounds like dunn wasn't a popular sr, so you could push your partner no issue. VP and dunn/toog is my bet on the team. especially cause toog has tossed me in a poe? excuse me?? no reasoning for it, I know I'm not scummy here, I'm not poe material.

[Andante]

will you shut up about Ate I'm literalling not doing that. it is yet another misrep of people

[Andante]

but she has fallen off and I'm less sure of this now. I think her and VP are unlikely to both be scum so a red flip there would secure her as town for me.

feels like you know VP is flipping scum lol

[Dwlee99]

Dwlee, what do you think of andante's AtE above?

NAI

I think F&G's push looks like how I bus so?

Does this mean you plan to vote me? I would like to know if I need to spend today putting a final thoughts post together

Maybe

Depends on how Pooky twists my arm

[Andante]

Sleepless Assassin - I want to townread them now just for the wall posts

You want to TR SA's wall posts yet not F&G's wall posts? F&G's seriously look townier

[Dwlee99]

but she has fallen off and I'm less sure of this now. I think her and VP are unlikely to both be scum so a red flip there would secure her as town for me.

feels like you know VP is flipping scum lol

If I was scum with VP why would I be trying to give you a townlock on his flip? Except to make this argument*

[Dwlee99]

You expect me to have actually read the past 7 pages of content andante?