Open 836: Pick Your Poison (Game Over)

[Andante]

I assume you mean any of the first three, considering the 5 collectively cover literally every possible scumteam in the lobby.

The fact your takeaway from all that, 2 of the 5 options involve me scum? the heck?? me and FG or me and dwlee? if you put effort into that, I'd feel bad, cause those are some really bad takes from dwlee losing it and VP being VP

[Andante]

who were the people calling Bingle scum, his partner would be in that

[Bingle]

So you're scum? I was really wanting to believe you're town.

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VP is pushing you and F/G to different degrees.
You are pushing VP and Dwlee.
Pooky/Skitts are pushing VP and Dwlee.
Dwlee is pushing You and FG.

Am I wrong about any of that? Am I wrong to want a summary of why each of those are happening before trying to parse who is right?

[VP Baltar]

As far as what I think is most likely is probably one lurker scum and one who is more active. I have a hard time believing today has just been a complete town madness thread. There is too much confusion happening for me to find it completely organic

[Andante]

So you're scum? I was really wanting to believe you're town.

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VP is pushing you and F/G to different degrees.
You are pushing VP and Dwlee.
Pooky/Skitts are pushing VP and Dwlee.
Dwlee is pushing You and FG.

Am I wrong about any of that? Am I wrong to want a summary of why each of those are happening before trying to parse who is right?

How does any of that make me partners with FG or Dwlee?

[Andante]

also, I'm not quite sure I'd call what I'm doing with VP pushing lmao

[VP Baltar]

also, I'm not quite sure I'd call what I'm doing with VP pushing lmao

What would you call it?

[Andante]

VC 3.1

VP Baltar (2)- Andante, Fun and Games
Enchant (1)- Toogeloo
Fun and Games (1)- VP Baltar

Not voting (4)- Dwlee99, Sleepless Assassin, Enchant, Bingle

With 8 alive it takes 5 to reach a majority.

Deadline is in (expired on 2021-12-14 17:00:00)

Mod notes: just remembered I was supposed to clean the kitchen today rip

... We have 10 more days of this??? hahahahahahahahaha there is no freaking way I participate for 10 days with this stuff going on

[Bingle]

The fact your takeaway from all that, 2 of the 5 options involve me scum?

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Yes. The list of all possible gamestates includes possible gamestates that you are scum in. It is theoretically possible that you randed scum. I'm not saying I think any of those is the case, I'm saying I think those are all of the possible ways the thread we have can be explained before trying to figure out which one it is.

[Andante]

I'm not saying I think any of those is the case,

If you're saying it, you clearly think it's true, unless you're trying to plant seeds for others to run with, cause if you didn't believe all of those could be true, you wouldn't call it a "possible option" I don't think you're playing for town

[Andante]

@skitter/pooky
I really wanna know what yall think of Bingle, I'm suddenly like super suspicious... cause this "list of possibilities" makes absolutely no sense from a town perspective

[Bingle]

How does any of that make me partners with FG or Dwlee?

My impression was that VP/Dwlee were saying you/FG was a team, which VP says is wrong.

I think

IF

there is one scum on either side of the divide, it's probably not pooky with either of Dwlee or VP and it's probably not VP with either of you or Pooky.

Maybe you and Dwlee pushing VP and pooky to fight each other might make sense, and it's a thing I want to look at based solely on the fact that you both seem to prefer the other person in the opposite pool, but I really doubt when I actually read the interactions past the skimming I've been doing that'll make any sense.

[Dwlee99]

Andante is obviously not scum, I am not pushing there at all

[Bingle]

If you're saying it, you clearly think it's true, unless you're trying to plant seeds for others to run with, cause if you didn't believe all of those could be true, you wouldn't call it a "possible option" I don't think you're playing for town

You realize I'm asking for groundwork before reading the thread, right?

Like, the point of this exercise is to have a basic understanding of what I'm looking for before I actually go do analysis, not to be analysis itself.

[Bingle]

Andante is obviously not scum, I am not pushing there at all

Okay. What's your two sentence summary on F/G then?

[Bingle]

Scum is in one of the four and also waiting in the wings

So VP thinks this. Which of the 4 do you think is scum?

[Bingle]

Andante-> Y/N you think VP/Dwlee is a viable scumteam, and prior to this suspicion of me that was your guess?

If so, can I get a two sentence summary on both?

[VP Baltar]

Scum is in one of the four and also waiting in the wings

So VP thinks this. Which of the 4 do you think is scum?

Of the waiting in the wings crowd? Probably dwlee or enchant, but I think dwlee has actually looked decent in their exchanges today.

I also have a hard time seeing any of the actives being non-associated with enchant, so that also ups his likelihood ever so slightly.

There's an outside possibility you're coasting scum here, but I'm reserving judgment because you say you're going to catch up now and maybe actually help here.

[VP Baltar]

Oh maybe that wasn't directed at me.

[Bingle]

Of the waiting in the wings crowd? Probably dwlee or enchant, but I think dwlee has actually looked decent in their exchanges today.

I also have a hard time seeing any of the actives being non-associated with enchant, so that also ups his likelihood ever so slightly.

There's an outside possibility you're coasting scum here, but I'm reserving judgment because you say you're going to catch up now and maybe actually help here.

Was directed at you, actually, but the 4 was You/Andante/Pookydra/Dwlee. It was meant as the four people I see as getting the most attention.

[Dwlee99]

Andante is obviously not scum, I am not pushing there at all

Okay. What's your two sentence summary on F/G then?

Pooky is repeating that I'm funny, have jokes, and going "openwolf lol" to me and VP. It's just spam BS on the thread to push a lim through

[VP Baltar]

Of the waiting in the wings crowd? Probably dwlee or enchant, but I think dwlee has actually looked decent in their exchanges today.

I also have a hard time seeing any of the actives being non-associated with enchant, so that also ups his likelihood ever so slightly.

There's an outside possibility you're coasting scum here, but I'm reserving judgment because you say you're going to catch up now and maybe actually help here.

Was directed at you, actually, but the 4 was You/Andante/Pookydra/Dwlee. It was meant as the four people I see as getting the most attention.

Ah OK.

I don't know if I have a clear answer for myself on that. I think pooky's showing in that square off with dwlee was actually pretty bad, but I'm not certain I can trust dwlee either since they have only today really started to engage with people. Obviously, I also think pooky had poor engagement with Gamma and myself. In my case, I can definitely say he was misrepresenting posts intentionally. I still don't have an answer in 100% confidence if he was doing that as town or scum. I was leaning town, but he did the same thing with dwlee in the mathblade exchange and then tried to skulk away when dwlee called him on it.

Andante is extremely opportunistic in her reads and seems to respond to every questioning of her motivations as a scum attack....which is pretty NAI, and reads more like a personality trait to me.

[Bingle]

Fun and Games was all "A50 has to be town" the only one who really saw the momentum flip, I see no reason scum would leave skitter and pooky alive here either, those 2 are strong players individually, and now they are 1. Fun and Games is 10000% flipping scum

cuz we're 1 day from mylo and she's better than me at it

I'd like to hear your thoughts. You were a primary pusher on Gamma from D1. I want to know what the reevaluation is.

Honestly, my poe is fairly similar: i still think bingle is town, i feel decent abt sa and enchant, and possibly you

Gun-to-head dwlee is town, and i still have a hard time seeing toog scum with ico

So i'm looking at everyone else

~ skitter

Gamma Emerald
Almost50
Sleepless Assassin
Bingle


Was where I was at yesterday. And then gamma and a50 flipped town. So either the team is SA/Bingle or I'm very very wrong here. And I also saw people had Bingle pretty high up so I should review that at minimum

What was your theory coming into the day, VP? I see the other three, just not you.

[Something_Smart]

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