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Post Post #650 (ISO) » Sat Dec 04, 2021 10:19 am

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Interesting. Ok.
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Post Post #651 (ISO) » Sat Dec 04, 2021 10:37 am

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Sub-Zero team targeted same target as Doc. That's all.

Let's kill someone.
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Post Post #652 (ISO) » Sat Dec 04, 2021 10:39 am

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In post 651, Enchant wrote:Sub-Zero team targeted same target as Doc. That's all.

Let's kill someone.
Who do you want?
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Post Post #653 (ISO) » Sat Dec 04, 2021 10:42 am

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Let's think about how funny Salsa died.

Roden of course town who put Salsa on E-1, but i think Datsy hammer is bad explained afterwards.

SO yeah i want murder Datsy for now.
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Post Post #654 (ISO) » Sat Dec 04, 2021 10:43 am

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In post 0, Not_Mafia wrote:Galron
Enchant
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Roden

Bingle

LicketyQuickety
Guilty Lion
DArby

Auro
mc esther
T3
Not particularly interested in GL/Auro atm.

VOTE: T3

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Post Post #655 (ISO) » Sat Dec 04, 2021 10:45 am

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In post 653, Enchant wrote:SO yeah i want murder Datsy for now.
What do you think of Darby trying to third wagon in a T/T dueling wagons situation? Do you think SR-ing Salsa was unreasonable?
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Post Post #656 (ISO) » Sat Dec 04, 2021 10:46 am

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In post 655, Bingle wrote:
In post 653, Enchant wrote:SO yeah i want murder Datsy for now.
What do you think of Darby trying to third wagon in a T/T dueling wagons situation? Do you think SR-ing Salsa was unreasonable?

It was basically this:

Me
"What we trying to achieve"
Salsa:
"Miselim"
Darby:
"WOW YOU WANT KILL SELF HAMMER"
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Post Post #657 (ISO) » Sat Dec 04, 2021 10:48 am

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I hate this game.
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Post Post #658 (ISO) » Sat Dec 04, 2021 10:49 am

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AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA
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Post Post #659 (ISO) » Sat Dec 04, 2021 11:04 am

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In post 637, Bingle wrote:
Spoiler:
In post 633, Not_Mafia wrote:
VC 1.09
Galron (0)-

Enchant (1)-
Auro
Pavowski (0)-

Almost50 (0)-

Roden (3)-
GuiltyLion, LicketyQuickety, Auro
Bingle (0)-

LicketyQuickety (1)-
Salsabil Faria
GuiltyLion (0)-

Salsabil Faria (7)-
T3, mc esther, Pavowski, Almost50, Galron, Roden, DArby
-ELIMINATED

DArby (0)-

Auro (0)-

mc esther (0)-

T3 (0)-


Not Voting (1)-
Galron

With
13
alive, it takes
7
to eliminate.

Deadline is in
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- Dec 7th 10:00 GMT
In post 525, Not_Mafia wrote:
VC 1.07
Galron (0)-

Enchant (1)-
Salsabil Faria
Pavowski (0)-

Almost50 (0)-

Roden (4)-
GuiltyLion, LicketyQuickety, DArby, Auro
Bingle (0)-

LicketyQuickety (1)-
Roden
GuiltyLion (0)-

Salsabil Faria (5)-
T3, mc esther, Pavowski, Bingle, Almost50,
DArby (1)-
Enchant
Auro (0)-

mc esther (0)-

T3 (0)-


Not Voting (2)-
Galron,

With
13
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7
to eliminate.

Deadline is in
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- Dec 7th 10:00 GMT
In post 578, Not_Mafia wrote:
VC 1.08
Galron (0)-

Enchant (0)-

Pavowski (0)-

Almost50 (0)-

Roden (3)-
GuiltyLion, LicketyQuickety, Auro
Bingle (0)-

LicketyQuickety (3)-
Roden, Salsabil Faria, DArby
GuiltyLion (0)-

Salsabil Faria (5)-
T3, mc esther, Pavowski, Almost50, Galron
(E-2)

DArby (1)-
Enchant
Auro (0)-

mc esther (0)-

T3 (0)-


Not Voting (1)-
Galron

With
13
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7
to eliminate.

Deadline is in
(expired on 2021-12-07 10:00:00)
- Dec 7th 10:00 GMT


Roden salsa TvT makes me feel better about Darby. No reason for scum to lend weight to a new wagon when there’s dueling wagons on not your team.

Was anyone cheerleading the roden salsa fight?
We were fighting? I dipped from the game for a couple days, came back, saw Salsa was a leading wagon and voted her just to see what would happen. I think I only interacted with her once before that, way back during RVS. We had competing wagons technically but that was purely from outside influences.

Also what so you mean about Darby "lending weight" to a new wagon? He quick hammered Salsa. Since I'm now conftown, don't you think it's possible that he's scum who thought he could get me mis-elim'd if Salsa flipped town and gain town credit if she flipped scum? And what makes you certain none of the competing wagons were on his team? LQ's alignment isn't confirmed and I'm still certain he's scum.

Also I kinda feel bad that I'm the only conftown now even though I've been absent for most of the game. I was hoping A50 would target someone who was leading the discussion so town could know whether or not they could be trusted. I'll start rereading the thread but probably skip most of my argument with LQ since I'm confident he's just scum at this point, unless every single leading wagon was on town and he actually did just majorly misread me.

VOTE: LQ

Btw GL, now you know my RVS vote really was just RVS. It really shouldn't have taken a Cop check to figure that out, here we are I guess.
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Post Post #660 (ISO) » Sat Dec 04, 2021 11:05 am

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VOTE: LQ
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Post Post #661 (ISO) » Sat Dec 04, 2021 11:11 am

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In post 600, T3 wrote:Enchant hammer salsa
Do it
In post 657, T3 wrote:I hate this game.
Can you explain why you wanted Salsa out so badly?
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Post Post #662 (ISO) » Sat Dec 04, 2021 12:08 pm

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In post 656, Enchant wrote:
In post 655, Bingle wrote:
In post 653, Enchant wrote:SO yeah i want murder Datsy for now.
What do you think of Darby trying to third wagon in a T/T dueling wagons situation? Do you think SR-ing Salsa was unreasonable?

It was basically this:

Me
"What we trying to achieve"
Salsa:
"Miselim"
Darby:
"WOW YOU WANT KILL SELF HAMMER"
Seems like a kinda strange dismissal of
In post 557, Auro wrote:The power of the hammer in the palm of my hand
In post 558, Enchant wrote:Not hammering.
In post 561, Salsabil Faria wrote:
In post 559, Enchant wrote:But gonna be honest, it's tempting.
+1
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Post Post #663 (ISO) » Sat Dec 04, 2021 12:10 pm

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In post 659, Roden wrote:he actually did just majorly misread me.
Seems entirely reasonable, actually.

Like... I didn't want to bring this up yesterday because it hurt my position in another game that has ended, but LQ seems like the kind of player who just has weird takes. Is there a particular take of his that you think is particularly scum indicative that I should look at?
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Post Post #664 (ISO) » Sat Dec 04, 2021 12:16 pm

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In post 662, Bingle wrote:
In post 656, Enchant wrote:
In post 655, Bingle wrote:
In post 653, Enchant wrote:SO yeah i want murder Datsy for now.
What do you think of Darby trying to third wagon in a T/T dueling wagons situation? Do you think SR-ing Salsa was unreasonable?

It was basically this:

Me
"What we trying to achieve"
Salsa:
"Miselim"
Darby:
"WOW YOU WANT KILL SELF HAMMER"
Seems like a kinda strange dismissal of
In post 557, Auro wrote:The power of the hammer in the palm of my hand
In post 558, Enchant wrote:Not hammering.
In post 561, Salsabil Faria wrote:
In post 559, Enchant wrote:But gonna be honest, it's tempting.
+1
He quotted different message not ths one.
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Post Post #665 (ISO) » Sat Dec 04, 2021 12:16 pm

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In post 651, Enchant wrote:Sub-Zero team targeted same target as Doc. That's all.

Let's kill someone.
In post 653, Enchant wrote:Let's think about how funny Salsa died.

Roden of course town who put Salsa on E-1, but i think Datsy hammer is bad explained afterwards.

SO yeah i want murder Datsy for now.
In post 660, Enchant wrote:VOTE: LQ
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Post Post #666 (ISO) » Sat Dec 04, 2021 12:19 pm

Post by DArby »

In post 637, Bingle wrote:
Spoiler:
In post 633, Not_Mafia wrote:
VC 1.09
Galron (0)-

Enchant (1)-
Auro
Pavowski (0)-

Almost50 (0)-

Roden (3)-
GuiltyLion, LicketyQuickety, Auro
Bingle (0)-

LicketyQuickety (1)-
Salsabil Faria
GuiltyLion (0)-

Salsabil Faria (7)-
T3, mc esther, Pavowski, Almost50, Galron, Roden, DArby
-ELIMINATED

DArby (0)-

Auro (0)-

mc esther (0)-

T3 (0)-


Not Voting (1)-
Galron

With
13
alive, it takes
7
to eliminate.

Deadline is in
(expired on 2021-12-07 10:00:00)
- Dec 7th 10:00 GMT
In post 525, Not_Mafia wrote:
VC 1.07
Galron (0)-

Enchant (1)-
Salsabil Faria
Pavowski (0)-

Almost50 (0)-

Roden (4)-
GuiltyLion, LicketyQuickety, DArby, Auro
Bingle (0)-

LicketyQuickety (1)-
Roden
GuiltyLion (0)-

Salsabil Faria (5)-
T3, mc esther, Pavowski, Bingle, Almost50,
DArby (1)-
Enchant
Auro (0)-

mc esther (0)-

T3 (0)-


Not Voting (2)-
Galron,

With
13
alive, it takes
7
to eliminate.

Deadline is in
(expired on 2021-12-07 10:00:00)
- Dec 7th 10:00 GMT
In post 578, Not_Mafia wrote:
VC 1.08
Galron (0)-

Enchant (0)-

Pavowski (0)-

Almost50 (0)-

Roden (3)-
GuiltyLion, LicketyQuickety, Auro
Bingle (0)-

LicketyQuickety (3)-
Roden, Salsabil Faria, DArby
GuiltyLion (0)-

Salsabil Faria (5)-
T3, mc esther, Pavowski, Almost50, Galron
(E-2)

DArby (1)-
Enchant
Auro (0)-

mc esther (0)-

T3 (0)-


Not Voting (1)-
Galron

With
13
alive, it takes
7
to eliminate.

Deadline is in
(expired on 2021-12-07 10:00:00)
- Dec 7th 10:00 GMT


Roden salsa TvT makes me feel better about Darby. No reason for scum to lend weight to a new wagon when there’s dueling wagons on not your team.

Was anyone cheerleading the roden salsa fight?
I’m a little slow. Could you please reword this?
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Post Post #667 (ISO) » Sat Dec 04, 2021 1:30 pm

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In post 666, DArby wrote:I’m a little slow. Could you please reword this?
moist ceouightanly. (Intended to be most certainly read with a bugs bunny accent)

There were wagons on Roden and Salsa. We know that neither Roden nor Salsa is your buddy, so scum you doesn't have any skin in the game and either of those going through is fine. Roden and Salsa tried to start a CW together on LQ and you joined that. If LQ is scum, you're probably not scum with him because why would you jump ship to join a wagon on a buddy that may derail the free mislims on Not-A-Buddy. If LQ isn't your buddy, why do you jump ship from a town wagon on Roden to join a wagon Roden is pushing along with the other biggest suspect? I'm not a rocket surgeon, but that doesn't seem like the kind of thing scum thinks they get towncred from and you had no reason not to just stay the course at the time.

Not a "Oh shit this is never scum", but enough of a reason to think you're town that you're not in my murderbasket.
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Post Post #668 (ISO) » Sat Dec 04, 2021 1:35 pm

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In post 661, Roden wrote:
In post 600, T3 wrote:Enchant hammer salsa
Do it
In post 657, T3 wrote:I hate this game.
Can you explain why you wanted Salsa out so badly?
I thought she was scum. She seemed off.
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Post Post #669 (ISO) » Sat Dec 04, 2021 1:36 pm

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Also basically every time I’ve seen town salsa run up she’s either self hammered or replaced out.
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Post Post #670 (ISO) » Sat Dec 04, 2021 1:36 pm

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In post 664, Enchant wrote:He quotted different message not ths one.
Him not quoting Salsa talking about self hammering with several people discussing hammering doesn't make it so Salsa wasn't talking about self hammering with several people discussing hammering.

I think it was pretty obvious what D'Arbolical was referencing when he said "pushing for your own lim gives me an itchy trigger finger".
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Post Post #671 (ISO) » Sat Dec 04, 2021 1:50 pm

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In post 669, T3 wrote:Also basically every time I’ve seen town salsa run up she’s either self hammered or replaced out.
What'd you make of Salsa threatening the self right before I unvoted?
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Post Post #672 (ISO) » Sat Dec 04, 2021 1:51 pm

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In post 663, Bingle wrote:Seems entirely reasonable, actually.
I just realized this probably looks like it means exactly the opposite of my intention.

LQ's play seems entirely reasonable to me, not your reasoning to vote him.

Not that your reasoning is necessarily unreasonable, but rather that I don't think LQ having weird takes is particularly scummy.
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Post Post #673 (ISO) » Sat Dec 04, 2021 2:33 pm

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In post 672, Bingle wrote:
In post 663, Bingle wrote:Seems entirely reasonable, actually.
I just realized this probably looks like it means exactly the opposite of my intention.

LQ's play seems entirely reasonable to me, not your reasoning to vote him.

Not that your reasoning is necessarily unreasonable, but rather that I don't think LQ having weird takes is particularly scummy.
I read it as you intended. I don't think LQ is a good lim today. I don't know who is, but not LQ.
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Post Post #674 (ISO) » Sat Dec 04, 2021 2:50 pm

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i think basically everyone's established this, but to be explicit so that nobody suggests anything daft later (and also to get auro's thoughts): pavowski's town. there was literally no reason for him to signal for a kill on guiltylion, guiltylion was townreading him all day; and the observation that scum would be too paranoid to make that sort of comment if not as an intentional signal rings pretty true. while start-of-day speculation on the night targets was a pretty bad idea, i think it makes a lot more sense from "townie with weird hang-ups about night" than "scum who went straight for the same speculation that had him under suspicion day one".
In post 659, Roden wrote:unless every single leading wagon was on town
i wouldnt dismiss this possibility lol. like, the literal majority of the playerlist (myself adamantly included) believed that both you and salsa were likely scum, day one was lowkey a bit of a clusterfuck.

VOTE: enchant

seeing as apparently your votes dont require any further comment
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