Manatee's Pokemon Large Theme | Game Over

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

hammering birdie!scum will make you feel even better

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

just facts

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I would prefer not to be paranoia elimmed at the last moment for townloss cuz that would suck

like I dont get how my meta is so obviously anti-bus but people still murder me anyway lol

[Milobird]

I would prefer not to be paranoia elimmed at the last moment for townloss cuz that would suck

like I dont get how my meta is so obviously anti-bus but people still murder me anyway lol

This is a blatant strawman. Nobody is paranoia eliminating you. Cases have been made, thoughts have gone down.
The only player that could be fairly characterized as paranoid of you is STD. The rest had cases, arguments and put thoughts down to the effect of "it's Pooky"

-Bell

[Milobird]

At the last moment = 10 days of elo.

-Bell

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

you literally asked me what my scum win rate is.

that is the definition of trying to create a paranoia elim

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Pooky wins a lot as scum -> we need to elim pooky is just basic paranoia nonsense.

it doesn't take into account actual things that have happened.

If anything it makes LESS sense for me to be scum and bus the shit out of my entire team because if I have a high scum win rate by NOT bussing why the fuck would I start bussing when its

(a) less fun for me
and
(b) i can win fine by not bussing?

[Milobird]

Isn't the classic thing we're supposed to ask ourselves in elo "why am I still alive?"

We're still alive because Pooky couldn't vote or eliminate Mastina. They could however eliminate us they even have a test case in which Koba lost his back and forth with Pooky. Demonstrating that Pooky's path was viable.
You're still alive because you're in Pooky's pocket.
Pooky is still alive because they're scum.

-Bell

[Titus]

If I HAD to read into the Mastina kill then I'd say it does looked more likely that Pooky did it

Honestly, I'd be considering Cakey here but the game state kinda says hell no to that. Lol

[Milobird]

you literally asked me what my scum win rate is.

that is the definition of trying to create a paranoia elim

It wasn't me, and I consider it a Wisdom argument.
I.e., if Wisdom makes it to elo, they're always scum.

-Bell

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

every nightkill has been on conftown or investigative so that argument is kind of a load of crap

[Milobird]

Though I'd argue that isn't true for you, you do get miselimmed while Wisdom is actively a pain in the ass when he's town for the scum team. You're more up and down. It depends on the accuracy of your reads.

But nah, you're not a paranoia elim. There's a clear path that scum you took.

-Bell

[Milobird]

every nightkill has been on conftown or investigative so that argument is kind of a load of crap

Yes, it's almost like you didn't have much choice in who to kill until now.
and when that choice presented itself you shot the person scum reading you!
Fascinating.

-Bell

[Milobird]

There are a lot of neon signs pointing at Pookythemagicalbear for that night kill. This remains fairly simple.

-Bell

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Isn't the classic thing we're supposed to ask ourselves in elo "why am I still alive?"

We're still alive because Pooky couldn't vote or eliminate Mastina. They could however eliminate us they even have a test case in which Koba lost his back and forth with Pooky. Demonstrating that Pooky's path was viable.
You're still alive because you're in Pooky's pocket.
Pooky is still alive because they're scum.

-Bell

I am alive because you decided it would be easier to 1v1 with me than Mastina since nobody is willing to vote for Mastina.

Mastina is dead because you decided that's the nightkill Pooky!scum would make and you think it will get Cakes to flip on me.

You were also worried she would change her mind yet again.

Cakes is alive because you think you can get him to flip on me and the pressure is starting to get to him.

You are alive because you don't want to shoot yourself.

[Milobird]

The argument also has to do with my proficiency,
I am not good scum. I do not improve leaps and bounds in a single game.
You have a long history of being able to fool people.
If people think my posts are townie it's probably because I'm town.
If people think your posts are townie it's probably because you want them to think that.

-Bell

[Milobird]

The argument also has to do with my proficiency,
I am not good scum. I do not improve leaps and bounds in a single game.
You have a long history of being able to fool people.
If people think my posts are townie it's probably because I'm town.
If people think your posts are townie it's probably because you want them to think that.

-Bell

Mastina already explained the discrepancy in that you should have exhibited significantly more uncertainty if you were town, because I am obvtown as town. Which I was and you made clear I was until suddenly I was not and Mastina noticed that your trajectory sucked and how you shifted your read also sucked.

-Bell

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

You managed to get to day 10 of a large theme without being investigated, or eliminated by puffing up your chest and insisting you can't be scum with self-meta and nonsense.

You are one misvote away from winning and getting out of bad scum jail forever.

I am rooting for you.

I'd say you did alright homie.

[Milobird]

Isn't the classic thing we're supposed to ask ourselves in elo "why am I still alive?"

We're still alive because Pooky couldn't vote or eliminate Mastina. They could however eliminate us they even have a test case in which Koba lost his back and forth with Pooky. Demonstrating that Pooky's path was viable.
You're still alive because you're in Pooky's pocket.
Pooky is still alive because they're scum.

-Bell

I am alive because you decided it would be easier to 1v1 with me than Mastina since nobody is willing to vote for Mastina.

Mastina is dead because you decided that's the nightkill Pooky!scum would make and you think it will get Cakes to flip on me.

You were also worried she would change her mind yet again.

Cakes is alive because you think you can get him to flip on me and the pressure is starting to get to him.

You are alive because you don't want to shoot yourself.

Lol, This is sircakez erasure. There remains no reason for us to kill Mastina and take our chances with Sircakez. You're intentionally ignoring that because it's inconvenient.
-Bell

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Lol, This is sircakez erasure. There remains no reason for us to kill Mastina and take our chances with Sircakez. You're intentionally ignoring that because it's inconvenient.
-Bell

If you kill Mastina you freeze her reads and get to use her as a martyr to make the case to Cakes that Pooky is the scum.


If you kill Cakes, I can say to Mastina that the nightkill implicates you and she might readflip back from leaning me to leaning you.



It's a gamble but if Cakes votes me then it's well worth it.

[Milobird]

You managed to get to day 10 of a large theme without being investigated, or eliminated by puffing up your chest and insisting you can't be scum with self-meta and nonsense.

You are one misvote away from winning and getting out of bad scum jail forever.

I am rooting for you.

I'd say you did alright homie.

You keep vacilitating between that I'm playing awesome this game and that I'm merely doing okay depending on which narrative serves you better in the moment.
You weren't complimenting me at all through my 20 hour case and only started to compliment me at the end of that day phase because you ran out of tasks to do that didn't involve you having to fake solve.
So you went with tone and hoping Sircakez would notice.

-Bell

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

You played really well Bell

I'm rooting for ya

[Milobird]

Lol, This is sircakez erasure. There remains no reason for us to kill Mastina and take our chances with Sircakez. You're intentionally ignoring that because it's inconvenient.
-Bell

If you kill Mastina you freeze her reads and get to use her as a martyr to make the case to Cakes that Pooky is the scum.


If you kill Cakes, I can say to Mastina that the nightkill implicates you and she might readflip back from leaning me to leaning you.



It's a gamble but if Cakes votes me then it's well worth it.

Yes, you could've said that to Mastina and I'm sure she would have been like "yes, that makes sense you're right Pooky"
and then she voted us and won the game for town and there was a fairy and a unicorn in there somewhere too.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Honestly would be nice for you to get that 2nd scum win of the year.

A real cherry for the top of the cake

[Milobird]

You remain incapable of a constructing a reasonable argument for why Mastina is dead and not Sircakez, who was cleared. There is a simple lack of clear in depth reasoning that a more focused town Pooky would have had available to make a less generic argument.

-Bell