Open 837: Cop Killer - Endgame

[Pavowski]

Wait. You are Conf Town? How so?

Wait. You are Conf Town? How so?

635

Oh, I missed that.

Also, someone explain why Roden is confirmed Town because I'm not getting that.

@Roden: leave that, he's not paying any attention to the game whatsoever lol

This has really been bugging me. It's a small thing to overlook the clear on Roden but to miss it twice, especially when LQ seems to be paying close attention to other details in the thread, just doesn't sit right.

VOTE: Lickety

Enchant, you're wagoned for the usual reasons I think. Asking the rest of the PL to explain it to you rather than reading back to figure it out is probably one of those reasons.

[Pavowski]

Omg I pagetopped with content? Blasphemy.

[T3]

a bit more detached with it

I perceive this game very differently to the rest due to multi-ball and high killing power, so while I'm following the game I'm not too bothered with

immediately nailing scum

.

Are you talking about to the rest of the plist or games or what? I get the high-powered killing thing but not sure how that fits with what you're saying.

To other games. In a vanilla game with a single scum faction I'd prolly be tryharding while I'm alive.

I buy this.

[T3]

T3 because he doesn't metabad as scum

Just realized this could be interpreted as mean-spirited. What I meant is that town!T3 uses meta and is fallible. Scum!T3 really just TMI's when he meta reads someone because he almost always meta reads townies as town to get town cred for himself. The one time I've seen him meta read somebody as scum, it was his scum buddy lol. When scum!T3 pushes somebody as a scum read and they're a townie it's almost never a meta read.

This is just my own analysis of his playstyle though, it isn't 100% accurate. But I can usually at the very least trust his town reads no matter his alignment.

^true

[T3]

VOTE: enchant
I don’t want to vote LQ today.

[mc esther]

VOTE: enchant
I don’t want to vote LQ today.

is this because you dont believe lq is scum, or just an agreement that enchant increasingly becomes a liability as the game goes on?

[Enchant]

Hello i am Doc on E-1.

I saved Roden (well i actually tried to kill but ok).

Unvote pls ty.

[mc esther]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: licketyquickety[/quote]

i dont actually believe you (scum shot roden, at the time the number one scumread in the game? really?), but we have seven days on the deadline and another perfectly good wagon, so im willing to indulge this a little. it probably goes without saying that nobody should counterclaim this.

if you believed roden was scum so strongly that you were willing to vig him over it, why werent you voting him yesterday?

[mc esther]

VOTE: licketyquickety

[Auro]

I'm fine letting Enchant live

[Enchant]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: licketyquickety

i dont actually believe you (scum shot roden, at the time the number one scumread in the game? really?), but we have seven days on the deadline and another perfectly good wagon, so im willing to indulge this a little. it probably goes without saying that nobody should counterclaim this.

if you believed roden was scum so strongly that you were willing to vig him over it, why werent you voting him yesterday?[/quote]

Maybe thought Roden is Doc actually, hell i know.

I didn't really had time to process, i asked reasonings but DArby arrived faster than Roden.

[Auro]

Maybe thought Roden is Doc actually, hell i know.

Am I understanding this correctly: you thought Roden could be doc?

[Enchant]

Maybe thought Roden is Doc actually, hell i know.

Am I understanding this correctly: you thought Roden could be doc?

Mafia thought, not me.

[Auro]

Oh nevermind, that scum may have thought Roden's doc. Got it.

[T3]

UNVOTE: lq
Uh

[T3]

UNVOTE: enchant
Oops

[mc esther]

i feel confident enough that lq is scum that i dont think improbable night play will make d3 unbearably hard

[mc esther]

t3, the lack of lickety vote means you believe lickety is town?

[GuiltyLion]

I don't disagree. Pav's reaction felt off to me but I haven't seen anyone else comment on that specifically yet. I don't want to give my opinion on it until others do though so I don't influence anyone.

what do you make of my thinking that Pav genuinely didn't understand what I was accusing him of at first? It's buried in my Pav paragraph in 831

[GuiltyLion]

@GL: Not sure why stirring the pot is a bad thing; often, provocation can result in more interesting, readable states.

it's not always a bad thing! That's why I said I had to put my tinfoil hat on to make that take

can I get from you 4 or 5 scumreads? I get that you said you're not too pressed about nailing scum here, but I don't feel I have a great understanding of who your suspects are

[GuiltyLion]

UNVOTE:

I really kinda hate it when PRs don't do shit, even sometimes intentionally 'playing scummy' because it just leads to these situations where they get wagoned and outed

I'm going to vote Lickety but I haven't checked how many votes he has yet and I also don't want to end things until Roden gets a chance to say anything else he has left to say

[GuiltyLion]

LicketyQuickety (3)- Roden, Enchant, Auro

, mc esther, Pavowski

I added the yellow votes, I believe LQ is at L-1 right now. I am giving intent to hammer but happy to wait for people to get in some more thoughts, no rush here.

[GuiltyLion]

EBWOP - not that it really matters IMO, but to be clear Pav/mc Esther should be flipped in my post above. So mc esther gave the L-1 vote, not Pav

[mc esther]

roden unvoted

[T3]

t3, the lack of lickety vote means you believe lickety is town?

Yeah
I think the reasons for wagoning him are dumb