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[MegAzumarill]

Enormous apology to Greeting though, feel free to yell at me about it post game.

I think we should eliminate Strangematter today.

I think the scumteam is cape/strange, I had thought Cape was the cop before because they were acting at the start of d2 like they knew strangematter's alignment.

From where I stand, the ProHawk wagon looks pretty pure
Though it would be the wildest thing if the scumteam was Pro/Marci now huh. I'm tempted to jump the gun and say if ProHawk is town, then Marci probably has a good shot at being mafia

Let's not stall out here.
Let's get a general consensus with 2-3 IRL days on the calendar and not run down to the wire in case we need to make a change in decision *last mintue*

I have seen a lot of people throwing out StrangeMatter on their list of mafia candidates, why isn't there more of a push here?

Why do you keep trying to throw shade (that's what it feels like) onto people?

Because he knows your town and with this shade he is throwing at you, he believes that he can start a misvote on you through this message.

Oh I mean, if ProHawk is mafia that is :p

Their they act like they think that Strange is towny, but then later.....

okay Meg is town (upon evaluation today)
mueh town

gut tells me
Greeting town

leaving
prohawk
strange
marci

prohawk and marci aren't scumpaired

VOTE: StrangeMatter

leaving this by POE.

Now I will logdive and see if I stand incorrect, I don't think anybody really brought up too much in terms of meta of StrangeMatter

they act like they had had them as a scumread all along, and it feels like distancing since this was too late in the day for a strangematter elimination to be practical.

Lack of voting

, lots of opinions, essentially fence-sitting behavior

Okay I know this is about Cape09, but why is a lack of voting scummy?

In fact, that's exactly what someone said about my slot, and was completely wrong on eliminating me (which was Town). I've said this before (very very poorly worded I think) that voting is not worth looking into without the reason behind it.

Also, you just vote to piss people off? And how does that even tie into "scum need to stay out of the limelight"? I've seen plenty of people who bring attention to themselves, and push themselves as deep wolves as well.

Wha-why???

Get off of Greeting please.

Strange mateer defends Cape early on despite lack of pressure and then TMI's greeting as town and decides to not get involved in the wagon whatsoever. Probably not wanting to get their hands dirty but still wanting the cop to go down.

They make more sense partnered with Cape90. (who is now conf!scum FMPOV)

[MegAzumarill]

Essentially Cape90 acted in a way indicitive of them already knowing Strangematter's alignment.

[MegAzumarill]

So my answer was:

Scum knows that MegAzu's play was insanely scum-motivated. In scum chat: "okay let's just start the bussing train for a 3p endgame win instead of go for a win today because town is likely going to vote you off anyway."

Cape did just that, not worrying at all about the consequences if they were both town.

Which one do you want to eliminate first?

Yeah Meg was the obvious elim today, so the best play for scum is to let him be elimed and try to make his other team member look as townie as possible so they can win on day 4.

Ah yes you should definitely help me bus then.

It's actually just cape/strange but we should never elim outside of cape/me today

Why Strange versus me or Meuh?

Strange is the low-hanging fruit.

Why can LHF not be scum? Becuase being scummy =/= scum but being scummy for sure =/= town

[ProHawk]

LHF can absolutely be scum, BUT LHF are also people that scum constantly point to because its...... easy

[ProHawk]

Wake up sheeple I'm not bussing

Weren't you big on pairing teams last game day??

Who is the partner here if not you?

[Cape90]

So my answer was:

Scum knows that MegAzu's play was insanely scum-motivated. In scum chat: "okay let's just start the bussing train for a 3p endgame win instead of go for a win today because town is likely going to vote you off anyway."

Cape did just that, not worrying at all about the consequences if they were both town.

Which one do you want to eliminate first?

Yeah Meg was the obvious elim today, so the best play for scum is to let him be elimed and try to make his other team member look as townie as possible so they can win on day 4.

Ah yes you should definitely help me bus then.

It's actually just cape/strange but we should never elim outside of cape/me today

Pukes.

Alright anyone who doesn't think that policy eliminating you is a good idea will have a nice talk with me in post game.

Everything you are doing/saying reeks of opportunism.

That's why hanging cop then saying me/StrangeMatter is so obviously a scum play. Opportunism. Makes sense to me. Makes sense to strange if strange is town.

This is legit the most obvious choice ever and if y'all end up hanging me over obvscum over here. Never playing with y'all on MS ever again.

Greeting ROLLING in there grave

[MegAzumarill]

So my answer was:

Scum knows that MegAzu's play was insanely scum-motivated. In scum chat: "okay let's just start the bussing train for a 3p endgame win instead of go for a win today because town is likely going to vote you off anyway."

Cape did just that, not worrying at all about the consequences if they were both town.

Which one do you want to eliminate first?

Yeah Meg was the obvious elim today, so the best play for scum is to let him be elimed and try to make his other team member look as townie as possible so they can win on day 4.

Ah yes you should definitely help me bus then.

It's actually just cape/strange but we should never elim outside of cape/me today

Pukes.

Alright anyone who doesn't think that policy eliminating you is a good idea will have a nice talk with me in post game.

Everything you are doing/saying reeks of opportunism.

That's why hanging cop then saying me/StrangeMatter is so obviously a scum play. Opportunism. Makes sense to me. Makes sense to strange if strange is town.

This is legit the most obvious choice ever and if y'all end up hanging me over obvscum over here. Never playing with y'all on MS ever again.

Greeting ROLLING in there grave

"Oh they did something scummy so it's obviously them, just vote the other person, no need to actually look into my slot"

[Cape90]

So my answer was:

Scum knows that MegAzu's play was insanely scum-motivated. In scum chat: "okay let's just start the bussing train for a 3p endgame win instead of go for a win today because town is likely going to vote you off anyway."

Cape did just that, not worrying at all about the consequences if they were both town.

Which one do you want to eliminate first?

Yeah Meg was the obvious elim today, so the best play for scum is to let him be elimed and try to make his other team member look as townie as possible so they can win on day 4.

Ah yes you should definitely help me bus then.

It's actually just cape/strange but we should never elim outside of cape/me today

Pukes.

Alright anyone who doesn't think that policy eliminating you is a good idea will have a nice talk with me in post game.

Everything you are doing/saying reeks of opportunism.

That's why hanging cop then saying me/StrangeMatter is so obviously a scum play. Opportunism. Makes sense to me. Makes sense to strange if strange is town.

This is legit the most obvious choice ever and if y'all end up hanging me over obvscum over here. Never playing with y'all on MS ever again.

Greeting ROLLING in there grave

"Oh they did something scummy so it's obviously them, just vote the other person, no need to actually look into my slot"

They can look into my slot later and decide whether or not I'm bussing you.

[Cape90]

Wake up sheeple I'm not bussing

Weren't you big on pairing teams last game day??

Who is the partner here if not you?

Probably not StrangeMatter.
Probably you
Next best guess is Mueh.
You don't think after how that EoD went that Meg is a miselim?
We will have a talk post game if you are town and believe that wholeheartedly.

You know what Mueh should have done if they are town here?

So Mueh absolutely should have put their foot down and tried getting votes off the CLAIMED cop right?

"Hey StrangeMatter, we should bandwagon on x player I want to kill, if you don't bandwagon with me, you die tomorrow". That AND "hey they claimed cop, unvote Greeting, if there is a CC, we kill the one of the cop claims and save the other one for tomorrow" that's mafia 101 like come on.

[Cape90]

One thing I don't get at all and Meg pointed themselves in a corner here, is that from their perspective, they say they thought I was cop. I'm not cop. But they are saying they thought like for sure I was cop and I knew StrangeMatter's alignment. Cool, epic, so then why wouldn't you on day 2 check that theory for yourself and vote StrangeMatter instead of the cop claim there? I dunno about you but the answer is pretty obvious to me. Continue struggling defending yourself Meg.

[MegAzumarill]

I mentally wrote you off as probably cop and then proceeded to continue pushing Greeting since it didn't look like you innod them.

I literally keep notes PTs as scum to avoid this exact issue

[MegAzumarill]

This exact issue = continuity

[MegAzumarill]

You making my boneheaded decision more boneheaded doesn't make it more likely.
They need to look at your slot today so we have a tomorrow

[Cape90]

You making my boneheaded decision more boneheaded doesn't make it more likely.
They need to look at your slot today so we have a tomorrow

I'm literally confirmed mafia to you and you are confirmed mafia to me.
I was calling your slot town a day ago where is the continuity there?
Why are you telling me that I'm making a boneheaded decision when you don't need to convince me at all?

[Cape90]

Cabd

[5]: Meuh,

Greeting

, ProHawk, MegAzumarill, StrangeMatter [HAMMER]
ProHawk [4]:

Prism

,

marcistar

, Cape90,

Cabd

not voting [0]:

Greeting

[4]: ProHawk, MegAzumarill,

Greeting

, Meuh [HAMMER]
MegAzumarill [1]:

marcistar

StrangeMatter [1]: Cape90

not voting [1]: StrangeMatter

Here are the two wagons...

I can't imagine us leading an all town wagon on Greeting, his self-vote did NOT help here.
I have a hard time seeing an all town-wagon on me D1 considering my alignment, but I suppose that could be possible.

MegAzu looks real bad here, although I don't get the StrangeMatter push.
I'm doubting my Cape read based on my D1 wagon, but I don't think that's a good alternative for today.

I'm oscillating between Strange and MegAzu I think...

Limming an uncced cop claim?

VOTE: MegAzumarill

Come tf on man I should lim Mueh too for that

removing the bold tags from the vote so that the vote counter registers it correctly ~D

Can't vote for me if you can't write my name

Limming an uncced cop claim?

VOTE: MegAzumarill

Come tf on man I should lim Mueh too for that

removing the bold tags from the vote so that the vote counter registers it correctly ~D

This probably means that one of the two are scum??

Okay other mafia Is ProHawk.

ProHawk already should 100% know this by this time IDK why they would post this so strangely like this if they are town, like, yes, it's given in ELO that that's the case.

Prism ROLLING right now

[Cape90]

Oh and sorry for misspelling your name Meuh. I have made a lot of spelling errors today during this entire day

[Cape90]

Meuh you were so towny up until that EOD so that's why I voted Meg there and not you

[Cape90]

Meuh you were so towny up until that EOD so that's why I voted Meg there and not you

Meg is SE as well so I'd assume they would know this.
They would know why what they did was literally so anti town and scummy and deserving of the death sentence.
They can't be bothered with answering why they don't vote StrangeMatter there because it doesn't fit their narrative even if I am absolutely right about that said accusation.
Ignore it and hope town besides me doesn't press on it

[MegAzumarill]

I will defend myself from scum If I'll lose otherwise
My defense is for the class not you

[ProHawk]

Cape looks like flailing scum keeping his options open in case he makes it to 3p LYLO

[ProHawk]

This is legit the most obvious choice ever and if y'all end up hanging me over obvscum over here. Never playing with y'all on MS ever again.

WTF is this AtE for?

[Cape90]

Cape looks like flailing scum keeping his options open in case he makes it to 3p LYLO

This logic makes absolutely no sense the more I think about it. I don't make it to final 3 ELO in any scum world I'm living in right now unless I'm scum paired with Meg. So am I?

Well I solved the game.
Strange
Meuh

Kill the flailing mafia plz I'm not the one flailing here.

This is legit the most obvious choice ever and if y'all end up hanging me over obvscum over here. Never playing with y'all on MS ever again.

WTF is this AtE for?

It's called I have emotions and I hate the situation of the cop being eliminated despite there being literally no counter claim. ProHawk could you answer the question I proposed to Meg, tried speaking to them myself but I suppose I have to talk to Meg's Public Relations team. Why wouldn't Meg day 2 if they thought I was cop with a red check on strange just check strange?
Don't be shy, talk it over in wolf chat and come back to me.
If you are town, why?

[Cape90]

Greeting was my top townread and it's like. Ugh. I mean the other townies need to learn what initiative is and just step on the gas, this game is free

[StrangeMatter]

Alright, I'm back.

I'm getting this awful vibe from MegAzumarill that's just manipulative like what Greeting said. There was just a whole lot of shade thrown towards Greeting not being cop throughout a lot yesterday, which to me just reeks of another (already stated) play I've seen from scum. I'm fine with this slot going today for sure.

Who were you going to vote for yesterday?

It was MegAzu or you. I was reading I just felt like MegAzu was far more scummy when I read, looking increasingly opportunistic with their vote on Greeting. Though tbh I don’t think I have a good scumread on you in particular and reevaluating it was probably bias, which probably means I’m wrong considering another game where me and another player tunneled each other hard.

[StrangeMatter]

We were both town by the way, and I ended up wasting way too much time on a bad read that was partially bias due to how they were playing being increasingly frustrating.