In post 7669, Milobird wrote:I'm pretty sure I was the first one to call out Gyphx and spot that you could be scum this game.
I think Koba did a better job tho tbh. Until they killed themselves.
This is the bottom line. If you two don’t see it with this you aren’t going to until flips are up. You now have MOD CONFIRMATION that the rolestopper is useless to stop the perish song in this instance.
There are two options for the nightkill. Either we are scum who knew TIL was perish songed and Gamma could target them that day, (because he had claimed to have targeted us the night before), and chose to target the OBVIOUS rolestop target who was dead after that phase anyways, and got our kill stopped
In post 7674, Milobird wrote:I feel like pointing out all the ways you're scum is good practice for me, because ultimately I like being town and play the game to play town roles. I like solving. Though, that's hardly the only reason. I do just keep wanting to post why you're scum to Sircakez because hope springs eternal and all that.
I don't have much shame about how I played this game in terms of results. Notty should feel bad but I think he redeemed himself by probably making some personal sacrifices to figure out the poison thing and what happened day 3/4.
"I can't even look at the game anymore.
That evil teddy bear has got everyone twirling by his thumb.
It's like witnessing an slow but unavoidable train crash you can't stop."
-Norwee
"Please refrain from diverting our sleuths out there Pooky."
~Maple
This is the bottom line. If you two don’t see it with this you aren’t going to until flips are up. You now have MOD CONFIRMATION that the rolestopper is useless to stop the perish song in this instance.
There are two options for the nightkill. Either we are scum who knew TIL was perish songed and Gamma could target them that day, (because he had claimed to have targeted us the night before), and chose to target the OBVIOUS rolestop target who was dead after that phase anyways, and got our kill stopped
In post 7560, Milobird wrote:You’ve debunked them by noting that everyone ignored you getting caught
We literally had an entire day of discussion with the entire town about this issue and the conclusion was that I am innocent.
In fact there's even more evidence I'm innocent because it literally makes no sense for me to be the one doing the nightkill if you are saying I'm the deepwolf who vigged my own scum partner.
Deepwolves don't nightkill until they are the last scum left in order to AVOID being detected by tracker, watcher, roleblocker, jailkeeper etc. If the entire scum plan was to bank it all on me going hard deepwolf then there's literally 0 incentive for me to make the nightkill in the first place.
the fact that you are bringing this shit back up like a month+ later shows you've literally run out of bullshit to throw at the wall.
"I can't even look at the game anymore.
That evil teddy bear has got everyone twirling by his thumb.
It's like witnessing an slow but unavoidable train crash you can't stop."
-Norwee
"Please refrain from diverting our sleuths out there Pooky."
~Maple
"I can't even look at the game anymore.
That evil teddy bear has got everyone twirling by his thumb.
It's like witnessing an slow but unavoidable train crash you can't stop."
-Norwee
"Please refrain from diverting our sleuths out there Pooky."
~Maple
"I can't even look at the game anymore.
That evil teddy bear has got everyone twirling by his thumb.
It's like witnessing an slow but unavoidable train crash you can't stop."
-Norwee
"Please refrain from diverting our sleuths out there Pooky."
~Maple
"I can't even look at the game anymore.
That evil teddy bear has got everyone twirling by his thumb.
It's like witnessing an slow but unavoidable train crash you can't stop."
-Norwee
"Please refrain from diverting our sleuths out there Pooky."
~Maple
"I can't even look at the game anymore.
That evil teddy bear has got everyone twirling by his thumb.
It's like witnessing an slow but unavoidable train crash you can't stop."
-Norwee
"Please refrain from diverting our sleuths out there Pooky."
~Maple
This is the bottom line. If you two don’t see it with this you aren’t going to until flips are up. You now have MOD CONFIRMATION that the rolestopper is useless to stop the perish song in this instance.
There are two options for the nightkill. Either we are scum who knew TIL was perish songed and Gamma could target them that day, (because he had claimed to have targeted us the night before), and chose to target the OBVIOUS rolestop target who was dead after that phase anyways, and got our kill stopped
This is the bottom line. If you two don’t see it with this you aren’t going to until flips are up. You now have MOD CONFIRMATION that the rolestopper is useless to stop the perish song in this instance.
There are two options for the nightkill. Either we are scum who knew TIL was perish songed and Gamma could target them that day, (because he had claimed to have targeted us the night before), and chose to target the OBVIOUS rolestop target who was dead after that phase anyways, and got our kill stopped
Or Wheme stopped the kill by blocking Pooky.
-Bell
A series of unfortunate errors has occurred. I keep getting auto logged into icebox for some reason. Sorry for the mess and sorry for the quote. Thought it was page top time.
"I can't even look at the game anymore.
That evil teddy bear has got everyone twirling by his thumb.
It's like witnessing an slow but unavoidable train crash you can't stop."
-Norwee
"Please refrain from diverting our sleuths out there Pooky."
~Maple
Day 3 Dwlee dies. There is no kill night 3, but on night 4 two people die. We know Dwlee used his action because Pooky/Pooky didn't claim a second vig shot.
We have TIL who claimed a guilty and Whemestar who had not claimed anything at this time. Which of these players do you think was targeted by Dwlee?
TIL was.
Night 3 Gamma targeted TIL. If we were scum we would know this because Mala was blocked from neighborizing us. We know TIL is dying the next night from Dwlee's action.
Why would we kill TIL who we know is going to die and is likely going to be role stopped again. Instead of one of the cleared players or gamma?
Either we did this or Pooky was just role stopped by Wheme and so there was no night kill that day.
Make sense?
-Bell
Pooky has argued that scum would try to kill TIL early to prevent them from clearing more people even though they were already dealt with and were gunna get blocked again by Gamma so why would we even try to expedite that kill when it would likely fail? Only the scum team knows that TIL is already dead and that Gamma's claim is true.
Pooky has argued that because he is the deep wolf he would not have sent in a night killing action, instead, Imaginality would have because he was more suspected and it would be risky for him to do so.
In post 7690, SirCakez wrote:I don't understand what the thing about the role stopper means for solving here
The simple version is this- the night of the no kill, there were two ways to stop the kill. Either block the person or protect who was blocked.
TIL was likely protected given claims on the table and slotted to die the following night, so wouldn’t it make more sense for a Milo-scumteam to kill one of the already confirmed town (read:you) rather than risk the kill being stopped
Or, Wheme with a claimed roleblock on Pooky blocked the kill.
Either gamma SUCCESSFULLY protected TIL who was already slotted to die from perish song, so scum were cool just wasting that ability altogether and not going for one of the rolestopper, or Wheme stopped Pooky from killing
Follow up: in discussing this with Pooky, it became clear that I have a much better understanding of how the role works. Which would ordinarily mean we are more likely scum, right?
But I would know how to use it optimally. AKA, wouldn’t shoot ducking TIL. So either you think we no killed when down three members, or you’re so pocketed STILL the game is over. If this doesn’t sway you just fucking hammer us I’m done arguing this.
You literally have a stopped kill and refuse to see it Jesus fucking Christ Cakez get out of the pocket
Also they are kind of completely ignoring the fact that killing TIL one day earlier means one less invest result which is pretty important in a game where the POE is incredibly narrow and scum need every miselim to win.
Also there is also the fact that scum being killblocked on 1 night by the rolestopper is not really a big loss for them cuz it didn't lead to an extra elim for town as we ended up noelimming from 4->3
also if this actually wins the game for them because you buy it and vote me, then the blocked kill actually won the game for them by creating a fake guilty on me.
killing til 1 day earlier is big gain if the kill goes through but even being blocked they really didnt suffer at all.
Plus if you look at our conversation about perish song its pretty clear i had 0 clue perish song was a delayed poison and i would know that if i actually was mafia.
"I can't even look at the game anymore.
That evil teddy bear has got everyone twirling by his thumb.
It's like witnessing an slow but unavoidable train crash you can't stop."
-Norwee
"Please refrain from diverting our sleuths out there Pooky."
~Maple
