Anything uPick (Endgame)

Large Theme Games (based on source material and/or changes to mechanics/rules)
(14+ players)
. Signup Threads In Queue Forum
Forum rules
User avatar
RadiantCowbells
RadiantCowbells
Smooth Criminal
User avatar
User avatar
RadiantCowbells
Smooth Criminal
Smooth Criminal
Posts: 70566
Joined: February 24, 2013
Contact:

Post Post #7225 (ISO) » Fri Dec 17, 2021 8:27 am

Post by RadiantCowbells »

Anything uPick: Votecount 5.297

Something_Smart (4): Sakura Hana, Good Luck Buddy, Taly, Ydrasse
T3 (0):
Gypyx (0):
Sakura Hana
(0):
Galron (0):
Good Luck Buddy (0):
Enchant (0):
Deimos27 (0):
Taly (0):
VP Baltar (0):
Ydrasse (0):

Not Voting: Gypyx, VP Baltar, T3, Something_Smart, Galron, Enchant, Deimos27

With 11 alive it's 6 to lim.

The day will end in (expired on 2021-12-30 11:00:00).
Last edited by RadiantCowbells on Fri Dec 17, 2021 12:08 pm, edited 1 time in total.
2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.
User avatar
Something_Smart
Something_Smart
He
Somewhat_Balanced
User avatar
User avatar
Something_Smart
He
Somewhat_Balanced
Somewhat_Balanced
Posts: 22616
Joined: November 17, 2015
Pronoun: He
Location: Rochester, New York

Post Post #7226 (ISO) » Fri Dec 17, 2021 8:40 am

Post by Something_Smart »

In post 7223, VP Baltar wrote:SS is scum bargaining I think. We should also consider how many cops and clears are likely in the game.
Consider Also That Many Of Them Are Not Perfectly Reliable Though

This Is Basically A Bastard Game Or At Least It Has Bastard Elements
Shame on a martyr claiming friends
From either perspective of &
User avatar
VP Baltar
VP Baltar
he/him
Survivor
User avatar
User avatar
VP Baltar
he/him
Survivor
Survivor
Posts: 17476
Joined: November 3, 2008
Pronoun: he/him

Post Post #7227 (ISO) » Fri Dec 17, 2021 9:16 am

Post by VP Baltar »

In post 7226, Something_Smart wrote:Many Of Them Are Not Perfectly Reliable Though
Which investigative roles that we know about have not been reliable?
YOUR AD HERE
User avatar
Galron
Galron
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
Galron
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 4997
Joined: April 26, 2020

Post Post #7228 (ISO) » Fri Dec 17, 2021 9:22 am

Post by Galron »

In post 7216, Sakura Hana wrote:Bus Driver would've to guess who I'm targeting, while it's not impossible it's rarer since i never gave any hint of where i would target. Trying to save themselves from a guilty if i target them while giving me a fake guilty if i target their target is not a bad thing to do, but I find the chances of me hitting a false positive due to a bus driver more unlikely that me hitting a false negative.

I went to assume since I didnt get "same alignment" I wasnt redirected since I assumed a redirector would change both of my targets to the same person hence always being "same alignment" regardless of which 2 I target.
It's not all that improbable given that several have scum read S_S. You don't really have to jump through a lot of hoops to get there. But regardless, we'd have to give him the benefit of the doubt that a redirector does exist, something I'm not willing to do at this point. And it's a defense that's easy for S_S to make. That, combined with "I can prove myself tomorrow" just seems a bit hinky to me.
User avatar
Something_Smart
Something_Smart
He
Somewhat_Balanced
User avatar
User avatar
Something_Smart
He
Somewhat_Balanced
Somewhat_Balanced
Posts: 22616
Joined: November 17, 2015
Pronoun: He
Location: Rochester, New York

Post Post #7229 (ISO) » Fri Dec 17, 2021 9:31 am

Post by Something_Smart »

In post 7227, VP Baltar wrote:Which investigative roles that we know about have not been reliable?
Titus Was Not Redirect Immune Sakura Is Vulnerable At Least To A Bus Driver And Possibly A Redirector As Well

I Don't Know How Reliable My Check Is But A Godfather At Least Is Plausible
Shame on a martyr claiming friends
From either perspective of &
User avatar
Deimos27
Deimos27
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
Deimos27
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 2246
Joined: October 16, 2016
Location: Finland/UK

Post Post #7230 (ISO) » Fri Dec 17, 2021 9:35 am

Post by Deimos27 »

Either Ydra is lying or there is indeed a scum role at least somehow akin to a redirector or bus driver. If they were town they really should've claimed by now.
User avatar
Deimos27
Deimos27
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
Deimos27
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 2246
Joined: October 16, 2016
Location: Finland/UK

Post Post #7231 (ISO) » Fri Dec 17, 2021 9:39 am

Post by Deimos27 »

Would a redirector get to redirect both of Sakura's targets?
If they only got to redirect one target how would it be decided which?
So presumably they get to redirect both.

But then they must have guessed that Sakura was only parity cop or else they wouldn't have redirected to scum with one of the shots in case they just gave a free guilty?
Had Sakura claimed the parity modifier?
User avatar
Deimos27
Deimos27
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
Deimos27
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 2246
Joined: October 16, 2016
Location: Finland/UK

Post Post #7232 (ISO) » Fri Dec 17, 2021 9:43 am

Post by Deimos27 »

Oh no wait yeah I'm being dumb.
Redirector wouldn't try intentionally to mislead Sakura with a fake positive in the first place because they don't know whether Sakura did investigate 1 scum 1 town. The only safe play is to redirect to two players with the same alignment.
User avatar
Deimos27
Deimos27
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
Deimos27
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 2246
Joined: October 16, 2016
Location: Finland/UK

Post Post #7233 (ISO) » Fri Dec 17, 2021 9:43 am

Post by Deimos27 »

So either way I don't see scum motivation to redirect a target to themselves
User avatar
Deimos27
Deimos27
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
Deimos27
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 2246
Joined: October 16, 2016
Location: Finland/UK

Post Post #7234 (ISO) » Fri Dec 17, 2021 9:44 am

Post by Deimos27 »

So it would have to be a clutch bus driver
User avatar
Deimos27
Deimos27
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
Deimos27
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 2246
Joined: October 16, 2016
Location: Finland/UK

Post Post #7235 (ISO) » Fri Dec 17, 2021 9:46 am

Post by Deimos27 »

In post 7204, Something_Smart wrote:She Claimed To Have Targeted Gypyx But T3 And Clemency Got The Notifications Instead
Did we ever get an explanation of how 2 people were affected? No normal bus driver could accomplish that.
User avatar
VP Baltar
VP Baltar
he/him
Survivor
User avatar
User avatar
VP Baltar
he/him
Survivor
Survivor
Posts: 17476
Joined: November 3, 2008
Pronoun: he/him

Post Post #7236 (ISO) » Fri Dec 17, 2021 11:17 am

Post by VP Baltar »

In post 7229, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 7227, VP Baltar wrote:Which investigative roles that we know about have not been reliable?
Titus Was Not Redirect Immune Sakura Is Vulnerable At Least To A Bus Driver And Possibly A Redirector As Well

I Don't Know How Reliable My Check Is But A Godfather At Least Is Plausible
So you want us to not lim you on hypothetical things that did not happen.

Titus had a true cop result on me.

I have reliable knowledge that Demios is conf town.

So that's two counter points that are proven. This is what I mean when I say you sound like scum bargaining. Both you and Gypyx have promised amazing future outcomes that are entirely contingent on town letting you live for an indeterminate amount of time.
YOUR AD HERE
User avatar
T3
T3
He/him
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
T3
He/him
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 9478
Joined: February 19, 2021
Pronoun: He/him

Post Post #7237 (ISO) » Fri Dec 17, 2021 12:29 pm

Post by T3 »

VOTE: ss
i haven't read but he has votes on him so he's probably the guilty
Large Normal 241 is currently in play. PM me if you want to spectate or replace in!

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/37202 is in signups.
User avatar
VP Baltar
VP Baltar
he/him
Survivor
User avatar
User avatar
VP Baltar
he/him
Survivor
Survivor
Posts: 17476
Joined: November 3, 2008
Pronoun: he/him

Post Post #7238 (ISO) » Fri Dec 17, 2021 12:29 pm

Post by VP Baltar »

In post 7237, T3 wrote:VOTE: ss
i haven't read but he has votes on him so he's probably the guilty
Lol
YOUR AD HERE
User avatar
T3
T3
He/him
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
T3
He/him
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 9478
Joined: February 19, 2021
Pronoun: He/him

Post Post #7239 (ISO) » Fri Dec 17, 2021 12:31 pm

Post by T3 »

even if he isn't the guilty i'm going to vote him because i hear stuff about mech
Large Normal 241 is currently in play. PM me if you want to spectate or replace in!

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/37202 is in signups.
User avatar
Sakura Hana
Sakura Hana
Survivor
User avatar
User avatar
Sakura Hana
Survivor
Survivor
Posts: 26357
Joined: April 17, 2013
Location: In the Magical World of Anime

Post Post #7240 (ISO) » Fri Dec 17, 2021 12:52 pm

Post by Sakura Hana »

In post 7237, T3 wrote:VOTE: ss
i haven't read but he has votes on him so he's probably the guilty
In post 7239, T3 wrote:even if he isn't the guilty i'm going to vote him because i hear stuff about mech
This sounds informed
I bloom in spring?
Please be nice to me.
User avatar
Sakura Hana
Sakura Hana
Survivor
User avatar
User avatar
Sakura Hana
Survivor
Survivor
Posts: 26357
Joined: April 17, 2013
Location: In the Magical World of Anime

Post Post #7241 (ISO) » Fri Dec 17, 2021 12:54 pm

Post by Sakura Hana »

As in the "SS is my scummate and i see he's getting votes so imma assume he was who got caught" kind of sense.
I bloom in spring?
Please be nice to me.
User avatar
VP Baltar
VP Baltar
he/him
Survivor
User avatar
User avatar
VP Baltar
he/him
Survivor
Survivor
Posts: 17476
Joined: November 3, 2008
Pronoun: he/him

Post Post #7242 (ISO) » Fri Dec 17, 2021 12:58 pm

Post by VP Baltar »

In post 7240, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 7237, T3 wrote:VOTE: ss
i haven't read but he has votes on him so he's probably the guilty
In post 7239, T3 wrote:even if he isn't the guilty i'm going to vote him because i hear stuff about mech
This sounds informed
+1
YOUR AD HERE
User avatar
T3
T3
He/him
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
T3
He/him
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 9478
Joined: February 19, 2021
Pronoun: He/him

Post Post #7243 (ISO) » Fri Dec 17, 2021 1:33 pm

Post by T3 »

In post 7240, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 7237, T3 wrote:VOTE: ss
i haven't read but he has votes on him so he's probably the guilty
In post 7239, T3 wrote:even if he isn't the guilty i'm going to vote him because i hear stuff about mech
This sounds informed
y
Large Normal 241 is currently in play. PM me if you want to spectate or replace in!

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/37202 is in signups.
User avatar
Good Luck Buddy
Good Luck Buddy
Goon
User avatar
User avatar
Good Luck Buddy
Goon
Goon
Posts: 934
Joined: October 27, 2021

Post Post #7244 (ISO) » Fri Dec 17, 2021 1:34 pm

Post by Good Luck Buddy »

didn't we already know T3 was scum yesterday.
It was taly fault that we didn't yeet him that day instead went for loftwing.
Again always blame taly
User avatar
Good Luck Buddy
Good Luck Buddy
Goon
User avatar
User avatar
Good Luck Buddy
Goon
Goon
Posts: 934
Joined: October 27, 2021

Post Post #7245 (ISO) » Fri Dec 17, 2021 2:08 pm

Post by Good Luck Buddy »

In post 7244, Good Luck Buddy wrote:didn't we already know T3 was scum yesterday.
It was taly fault that we didn't yeet him that day instead went for loftwing.
Again always blame taly
Image
User avatar
Taly
Taly
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
Taly
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 8000
Joined: July 26, 2014

Post Post #7246 (ISO) » Fri Dec 17, 2021 2:11 pm

Post by Taly »

I stand by my 1000 IQ decision
"Taly is going to be a hot mess all game and I am entertained" ~ Gammagooey
"The human race is bad at reading Taly." ~the worst
"Taly I knew your slot was scum and I still struggled to find arguments to SR your play lol" ~Infinity 324
"Taly wins for the most fence-sitty reads in a game ever" ~Battle Mage
User avatar
Galron
Galron
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
Galron
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 4997
Joined: April 26, 2020

Post Post #7247 (ISO) » Fri Dec 17, 2021 4:55 pm

Post by Galron »

HOw long do we leave SS hanging at e1
User avatar
Galron
Galron
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
Galron
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 4997
Joined: April 26, 2020

Post Post #7248 (ISO) » Fri Dec 17, 2021 5:25 pm

Post by Galron »

Hint: someone unvote so we can talk some more. All for the lim though.
User avatar
Taly
Taly
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
Taly
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 8000
Joined: July 26, 2014

Post Post #7249 (ISO) » Sat Dec 18, 2021 2:03 am

Post by Taly »

what do you wanna talk about
galron
darling
"Taly is going to be a hot mess all game and I am entertained" ~ Gammagooey
"The human race is bad at reading Taly." ~the worst
"Taly I knew your slot was scum and I still struggled to find arguments to SR your play lol" ~Infinity 324
"Taly wins for the most fence-sitty reads in a game ever" ~Battle Mage
Locked