Open 840 - Guardians of the Fortress Saboteur PT

[Prism]

No turning back now, not for you.

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Welcome,

Saboteurs

! You may post in this thread at any time including the day and during the confirmation phase until your minigame is resolved. You may submit your mechanical actions by

bolding

them here. I will accept the most recent submitted action regardless of consensus, and while I have no preferred wording please note I will not accept ambiguous actions.

Confirm catboi as town

and

Swap catboi and Prism

are examples of actions that will be accepted.

I decided not to include it in the confirmation requests, but please note the Guardians have an alternate win condition: 3 Saboteurs in one location results in an instant Guardian victory.

[Lukewarm]

Hello friends!

I played in the original set up of this, so have some experience.

Scum dominated that game (although I was town lol)

[Toogeloo]

I don't play scum very often. Hope you don't mind carrying lol.

[Toogeloo]

Lol, the 3 scum are the 3 people in the middle of the playerlist.

[Lukewarm]

The Town

imaginality
Lukewarm
Toogeloo

Everyone Else

numberQ
Tanner - public datisi alt
DArby
Aristeia
VP Baltar
implosion


I have played with Datisi and Ari once each (possibly more with Ari if my main guess is correct, but I am never confident in those so not commenting on that) (and Toog. Hi Toog!

I have never encountered the rest of the player list before x.x

[Lukewarm]

At the Gate, one Guardian player is chosen by the Saboteurs overnight to be publicly confirmed as a Guardian. The Guardians must vote to eliminate the Saboteur to win.
At the Wall, there are no special rules. Guardians must vote to eliminate the Saboteur to win.
At the Keep, Guardians must vote on one player. If that player is a Guardian, the Guardians wins; otherwise, the Saboteurs win.

Gate is a 50/50. Will always result in a cross vote between scum and a townie, with the other townie having hammer power. 1v1
Wall is 33/66 basic Elo. This is the game most in our favor
Keep is a 66/33 reverse elo. This is the game least in our favor. You don't just have to be town read, you have the be The Most Town Read.

[Lukewarm]

At the Gate, one Guardian player is chosen by the Saboteurs overnight to be publicly confirmed as a Guardian. The Guardians must vote to eliminate the Saboteur to win.
At the Wall, there are no special rules. Guardians must vote to eliminate the Saboteur to win.
At the Keep, Guardians must vote on one player. If that player is a Guardian, the Guardians wins; otherwise, the Saboteurs win.

Gate is a 50/50. Will always result in a cross vote between scum and a townie, with the other townie having hammer power. 1v1
Wall is 33/66 basic Elo. This is the game most in our favor
Keep is a 66/33 reverse elo. This is the game least in our favor. You don't just have to be town read, you have the be The Most Town Read.

[Lukewarm]

My intention as town was going to be to automatically lock myself into the Keep in my first post, but we can chat about that since I am actually scum lmao

[Lukewarm]

My intention as town was going to be to automatically lock myself into the Keep in my first post, but we can chat about that since I am actually scum lmao

[Lukewarm]

Uhhh. Sorry for double posts :O

[Lukewarm]

Getting us each into different games is very strong.

In the original running of this game, the scum team all locked in pretty early, while most of the town waffled on where to go

[Toogeloo]

My main advice...

Don't focus too much on fulfilling the setup too quickly, or even making sure we are in separate games. Obviously avoid getting put in the same game, but don't push too hard too fast, or go out of our way to making a only town swap on Night 1.

Try and just be natural.

[Lukewarm]

Yeah, when I say locked in early, I don't mean all on the first page. just that they were some of the earliest to have a reason to lock into a place. And that very much worked in their favor in the end.

The third locked in on like page 30 something. So they didn't really hard rush it. sorry if unclear

[Lukewarm]

Yeah, when I say locked in early, I don't mean all on the first page. just that they were some of the earliest to have a reason to lock into a place. And that very much worked in their favor in the end.

The third locked in on like page 30 something. So they didn't really hard rush it. sorry if unclear

[Lukewarm]

Although, if I were town this game, I would have locked in first post.

Wondering if I still should, cause that is what town luke would have done, or if you think I should just hold off anyways. That was more of a me thing, then a team thing lol

[Lukewarm]

I don't know why that keeps happening :/

[Toogeloo]

I don't know our partner, imaginality. I also am unfamiliar with implosion, Tanner, and Aristeia. I don't follow Alts, lol.

As for what you should do... Absolutely do what you would have done as town.

[Lukewarm]

Basically, in the last game I wanted to be in the keep, but then didn't get it, and then was the losing vote at the wall. So I had intended to just strong arm my way into the keep this game lol

[Toogeloo]

You can lead in with that post. It will be slightly AtE, and you could ask permission for Keep. It might appear scummy to complete objectives quickly and avoid the solving aspect. That's what I want to avoid as our perception.

One possible tactic is to have two scum do a little theater and buddy, then when we attempt to get in the same game, we can swap one of us out and make it appear as though scum wanted to separate the pair. Trying to get in separate games may come off forced, so if theater is easier, this is an option.

[Lukewarm]

I don't know our partner, imaginality. I also am unfamiliar with implosion, Tanner, and Aristeia. I don't follow Alts, lol.

As for what you should do... Absolutely do what you would have done as town.

I only knew who Tanner was because they said it in the sign up thread lol

/confirm prism pre-in

should mention that this is a public datisi alt. so don't join if you hate me

[Lukewarm]

I witnessed the greatest scum game I have seen to date in the original guardians game. Ydra was magnificent. (She was playing as a Briar alt, but revealed herself mid game Incase either of you or Prism want to look at her play.)

[Lukewarm]

Also, sorry in advance. I talk a lot in hoods and Mafia chat lol

[imaginality]

Hi all! Haven't played with you or anyone else on the list as far as I know.
This is the third game of the last four that I've been scum in.

More from me in a couple of hours

[imaginality]

One possible tactic is to have two scum do a little theater and buddy, then when we attempt to get in the same game, we can swap one of us out and make it appear as though scum wanted to separate the pair. Trying to get in separate games may come off forced, so if theater is easier, this is an option.

I like this idea, if we can pull it off naturally.

[imaginality]

In the Gate, we'll have to cross vote with the remaining Guardian. That seems like the minigame where the views of players in other games will be most influential. Nominating a player with a clear view about the other two players might seem too suspicious, it might be better to nominate someone more open to being swayed by other players' views.

If we want to do the buddying act, the Wall or the Keep would be the logical place for us to get that pair as two players mutually town reading each other is more powerful there than the Gate where one will be revealed as town anyhow.