Open 840 - Guardians of the Fortress Saboteur PT

[imaginality]

I think the first person to choose a location is NAI. Whereas the second person to choose that location (if the first person seems towny) or the first person to choose a second location (if the first person seems scummy) could come under suspicion as scum wanting to ensure they don't all end up in the same location.

[Lukewarm]

There exists an important exception to the above: The player chosen by the Saboteurs to be publicly revealed as a Guardian may continue to post after the resolution of their minigame at the Gate.

Huh, this is new.

[Lukewarm]

Do either of you have a preference on where to go?

[Toogeloo]

No opinion from me. I'll play any mini-game.

[Toogeloo]

I would not be opposed to Toog coming to the keep with me an Ari. They are the only two people on this player list I have ever played with, so might help us read each other ?

This comment would have town me suspicious of you. I can't join you in keep without a few other people saying it's a good idea and gives me the ability to reach that conclusion as well. Joining now wouldn't look organic enough.

[Lukewarm]

My goal of that post, is to possibly look like I want to buddy/pocket you in the keep. So like, something for after I flip. You being in the keep with me is not the worst thing, but I was not actually trying to get you to go in right this second

[Lukewarm]

Also, btw - scum luke would want town toog in the keep with me if possible, because in the last game you and I played together where I was scum, I was your number one strongest town read.

So, maybe it wouldn't play out the same, but looking at a player list full of people I don't know, you would be my pocket target in the keep.

So, that is maybe something to have in the back of your mind if I flip first tomorrow

[imaginality]

I was wondering if it was worth Toog and me expressing suspicion of each other as 1. It justifies why scum would move one of us if we end up in the same location, and 2. could help lead town astray after one of us flips.

Although since everyone seems to think I bus as scum maybe it wouldn't be so helpful.

[Toogeloo]

Just react as necessary. If I feel like I would normally be suspicious or trusting, I'll do so. I tend to town hunt instead of scum hunt early, so my head space would be attempting to find someone town I would trust in the game with me.

[Lukewarm]

This set up has less punishment for being suspicious of your partners I think? Because you will never be in a situation to have to vote for them, like ever

[Lukewarm]

So you don't have to walk it back

[imaginality]

True though because of that, town should in theory place less weight on it.

And I think good town play here would involve getting people to commit strongly to their reads on players in the other minigames so that the flips once one minigame finishes give some extra information to town.

So I think expressing suspicion of someone but not pushing hard for them to be limmed in their minigame would/should be seen as scummy.

[Lukewarm]

One of the best things that I think we can do is just make sure that we are all staying active. Like, I would love for all three of us to be in the top half of posters this game!

[Toogeloo]

Hah...

I'm a 12 year old account that is still a JoaT title. I'm not a hyper poster lol.

[Lukewarm]

Well, today can be the first!

But really, I'm not meaning for you to be the number one posts. Like, just avoid being the bottom 3 posters

[Lukewarm]

Hah...

I'm a 12 year old account that is still a JoaT title. I'm not a hyper poster lol.

Omg I just check both of our total posts. I am gaining on you fast and I just joined this year lol

[Lukewarm]

So, I kinda don't think that me and ara can both end up at the keep. Whether that means me swapping out or her swapping out, i don't know. But I don't think that we can end up together :/

The moment that she locked in, I knew that it was because she thought I was scum and just saying that it was because of tanner wanting to be in the keep with Tanner. She decided that I was scum making a play, and put herself there to vote against me in the minigame.

Ari, underneath that alt character, is very good at this game

[Lukewarm]

I think I have thrown her off of me some what, but I think that she is still likely to avoid the keep voting me. Either, she will try and get the other person to vote her, or will just vote that other person if she can't do it.

[Lukewarm]

Ari, underneath that alt character, is very good at this game

See me being her first scum read, and then both of you being on her scum list as well

[Lukewarm]

I actually think we might need to try and swap her into which ever game is going to resolve first or let her stay in the keep if we think it will resolve first

[imaginality]

Maybe depending on how it pans out, we swap you out and Moog in and make her paranoid that whoever the third player in the Keep with her is is scum?

[Toogeloo]

I could join the Keep if encouraged, and then we swap Luke with someone like Darby or numberQ.

[Toogeloo]

I'm also thinking that whoever ends up at the Gate needs to be the most town read person in the game, so we might need to make a swap there. It might not be beneficial to swap Luke and I or put us both in the same game.

If we go with Baltar's suggestion, I'd probably swap Ari with numbers and make Ari the IC. Then we WIFOM Ari into deciding if they were right about me being scum or if it's Darby. Then you get numberQ in the Keep who might be a hard sell to get votes anyways.

[Toogeloo]

Just thinking out loud. I vomit what's on my mind.

[imaginality]

I think you joining keep and swapping Luke out could work, you could legitimately be suspicious of Ari I think and Ari might prefer to vote you compared to whichever of numberQ/DArby we swap in.

Wary of making Ari IC if she's as good as Luke reckons..