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Post Post #3450 (ISO) » Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:16 am

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In post 3439, Harley Quinn wrote:
In post 3427, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Does anyone townread RH9 or Alyssa? And if so, why?
Why don’t you tr Alyssa? I had some slight doubts but why does she say she wants to leave because she thinks I’m town who will dispute her reads? As for RH9, he’s playing exactly the same way here he did in pair game, and my progression on his slot is pretty much the same.

STD, I’m not ignoring you but lazy but I’ll get to it. Ftr, one of my least favourite things to do is paraphrase but Shiro really isn’t posting much differently in our PT than here, so not even sure why you think it woud be helpful?
I nullread Alyssa because i don't know what they're capable of as scum. But i see a lot of townreads on the slot so i'm asking why they're being townread so i can hopefully understand it better.
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Post Post #3451 (ISO) » Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:16 am

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her game frustration feels genuine
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Post Post #3452 (ISO) » Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:17 am

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In post 3429, Datisi wrote:
In post 3427, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Does anyone townread RH9 or Alyssa? And if so, why?
taly said some convincing stuff about alyssa making comments about the gamestate she probably wouldn't make as scum and i also emotionally mindmeld with her this game

rh9 is ??? idk i'd flip him ig
I think he’s town and unless Taly and Alyssa are for some reason having doubts on him, I’m not currently worried.
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Post Post #3453 (ISO) » Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:17 am

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And that goes for RH9 too i suppose.
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Post Post #3454 (ISO) » Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:18 am

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alyssa is probably fake mindmelding with us dats.
we can't trust her just because she is cute.
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Post Post #3455 (ISO) » Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:18 am

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In post 3452, Harley Quinn wrote:I think he’s town
why

without mentioning other games
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Post Post #3456 (ISO) » Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:19 am

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In post 3454, Firebringer wrote:alyssa is probably fake mindmelding with us dats.
we can't trust her just because she is cute.
how did you know my only basis for forming reads in mafia
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
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Post Post #3457 (ISO) » Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:19 am

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i would def put alyssa x rh9 as second top end game pair
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Post Post #3458 (ISO) » Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:20 am

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In post 3432, Something_Smart wrote:I said I would stop talking to Harley, goddammit. This feels like actual productive discussion though.

Anyway I townread both RH9 and Alyssa. RH9 because as previously mentioned he sent out three proposals pretty late in pre-dance and he strikes me as the type to plan out his pairings more carefully as scum whereas that feels like genuine fear of getting left with a shit partner. His current play is not towny per se but he got enough towncred to be accepted by Alyssa and he doesn't seem to be trying to take advantage of that at all.

Alyssa... feels... like town? I know she would say this is bullshit, and it probably is. But the way she has reacted to the game, especially today, does not feel like she's trying to control it, at a time when the gamestate is very volatile and scum getting control of it would be extremely valuable to them.
I like this post.
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Post Post #3459 (ISO) » Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:20 am

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In post 3456, Datisi wrote:
In post 3454, Firebringer wrote:alyssa is probably fake mindmelding with us dats.
we can't trust her just because she is cute.
how did you know my only basis for forming reads in mafia
i can read ur mind. how u think we mindmelded to begin with
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His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #3460 (ISO) » Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:21 am

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In post 3433, Taly wrote:It's almost like the IC has good reads. :cool:
And you made that read with no one wrongly sr you. :P
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Post Post #3461 (ISO) » Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:21 am

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This is such an fallacy, but everytime some slots go away for a while i start to think they could be scum.
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Post Post #3462 (ISO) » Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:21 am

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I agree with alyssa rh9 as endgame pair
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Post Post #3463 (ISO) » Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:21 am

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where did drunk, eyepatch-wearing, scumkilling auntie go
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Post Post #3464 (ISO) » Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:22 am

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Post Post #3465 (ISO) » Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:22 am

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In post 3461, NorwegianboyEE wrote:This is such an fallacy, but everytime some slots go away for a while i start to think they could be scum.
town never steps away from the game
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Post Post #3466 (ISO) » Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:24 am

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In post 3465, Andante wrote:
In post 3461, NorwegianboyEE wrote:This is such an fallacy, but everytime some slots go away for a while i start to think they could be scum.
town never steps away from the game
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Post Post #3467 (ISO) » Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:25 am

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In post 3437, Taly wrote:
In post 3435, Something_Smart wrote:Taly which pair not named Shiro/Harley should I look at
Datisi/GuiltyLion, specifically the latter but takes on the former is good.
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In post 3433, Taly wrote:It's almost like the IC has good reads. :cool:
when can we talk about how Ydrasse comes into the thread, posts a video or talks about how she's going to buy weed sushi from japan with her new raise, and then says "peace out i'm leaving" without posting anything game relevant
our PT has been pretty content rich so #feelsbadman
I’ve never played with scum!Datisi but he sounds similar here to pretty much every game I’ve ever played with him. GL is still an enigma for me.
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Post Post #3468 (ISO) » Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:25 am

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In post 3462, Andante wrote:I agree with alyssa rh9 as endgame pair
I would not have them as an endgame pair. I can understand the reasons for townreading them from most of the people so far. But i'm not in the belief that any of it is conclusive.
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Post Post #3469 (ISO) » Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:26 am

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In post 3451, Save The Dragons wrote:her game frustration feels genuine
Why is game frustration necesarilly town indicative?
Does scum!Alyssa never get frustrated?
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Post Post #3470 (ISO) » Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:27 am

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i dunno but it feels genuine it's not about whether or not she does it as scum
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Post Post #3471 (ISO) » Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:28 am

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In post 3468, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 3462, Andante wrote:I agree with alyssa rh9 as endgame pair
I would not have them as an endgame pair. I can understand the reasons for townreading them from most of the people so far. But i'm not in the belief that any of it is conclusive.
I like alyssa so far, as I've said, like, I've had some of the exact same thoughts she had during pairing, I feel like she has to be town, then skimming RH9's ISO, it doesn't feel that bad, and I'd feel comfortable TRing the pair. everyone else here is an actual pain to read...
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Post Post #3472 (ISO) » Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:29 am

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In post 3432, Something_Smart wrote:I said I would stop talking to Harley, goddammit. This feels like actual productive discussion though.

Anyway I townread both RH9 and Alyssa. RH9 because as previously mentioned he sent out three proposals pretty late in pre-dance and he strikes me as the type to plan out his pairings more carefully as scum whereas that feels like genuine fear of getting left with a shit partner. His current play is not towny per se but he got enough towncred to be accepted by Alyssa and he doesn't seem to be trying to take advantage of that at all.

Alyssa... feels... like town? I know she would say this is bullshit, and it probably is. But the way she has reacted to the game, especially today, does not feel like she's trying to control it, at a time when the gamestate is very volatile and scum getting control of it would be extremely valuable to them.
And to S_S, why is not trying to control the game town indicative? If the game is currently in a state where scum doesn't need to care, why would theoretical scum!Alyssa care too?
Essentially when Harley has dominated most of the discourse lately. I don't see why scum should need to bother at all.
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Post Post #3473 (ISO) » Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:29 am

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I'm not TRing off frustration alone, I'm TRing off the fact she had very similar thoughts to me at the same time, and I'm town, so she must be town
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Post Post #3474 (ISO) » Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:29 am

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In post 3193, RH9 wrote:
In post 3182, GuiltyLion wrote:to flesh out that thought

there's so much in there that's just like, "this feels genuine", "this was an interesting post", "advice here was appreciated", "mindmeld with this", etc. It feels like something he'd write if he just went through ISOs and needed to comment on posts. What's missing for me is any real underlying thought process in the vein of "I think this is likely to be town because [x]", looking for scum agenda in what people are doing, any sort of skepticism or uncertainty. Hence it feels fake, I don't see a mind that has incentive to correctly evaluate alignments behind any of his reasoning there.

What I want to do now is actually sit down with a RH9 town game and see if this is how he always feels or if the fake feeling is more unique to this game
See , and for previous tables that were made as Town. Then, tell everybody that those are fake too. I don't care. I would rather that everybody uncovers the truth than believe lies.
ehhhh okay these tables aren't all that noticeably different from the one here, fair enough
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