Holiday Dance Party ---- Game Over

[Andante]

uhhh not based on PT no, other reasons, but it's like, there's been stuff I genuinely relate to, so I'm not too worried

[Andante]

Harley, how many times are you going to mention another game...

[Datisi]

Harley, how many times are you going to mention another game...

remember when i asked harley why does she townread rh9 without mentioning other games

and the first thing she did was mention another game

good times

[Harley Quinn]

I also think that having a lot of trs in general is highly town indicative and I think he sounds similar here to that game, so unless Taly and Alyssa are having doubts, I’m good with that read.

isn't it easier for maf to make TRs than SRs?

Yes but they usually try to avoid doing that too much because it looks bad if they suddenly have to walk back from those reads. Town can change their reads on a dime without it looking suss because they have real progression but scum has to come up with fake reasons for doing that and it’s not easy, so they’ll probably either make hedgey type reads, which is what scum!Heart/galron did in pair game or they won’t have too many. It’s of course also player dependent because NK15 almost never has townreads but he tends to be an exception in general.

[GuiltyLion]

I would like more people to chime in and say whether they think it's possible Shiro is pocketing Harley.

If enough people say so then at least we can prove to her that they're not all in bad faith.

I definitely agree with your vote/push on the "Shiro solving" inconsistency and could see Shiro pocketing HQ here

I could also still imagine a scum!HQ paired with town!Shiro defending him, so it kinda feels to me like that pairing is likely T/S flavored in some way or another

I need to reread catboi again to try to remember why I townread him and if those were Good Reasons

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

VoteCount 1.5

Firebringer - Andante [1] - Titus
Taly - Ydrasse [0] -
Save the Dragons - Titus [0] -
Marcistar - NorwegianBoyEE [2] - Save The Dragons, Alyssa the Lamb
Datisi - GuiltyLion [0] -
RH9 - Alyssa the Lamb [0] -
Shiro - Harley Quinn [3] - Datisi, Andante, Firebringer,
Galron - Something_Smart [2] - NorwegianBoyEE. Harley Quinn

Not Voting [8]

- RH9, Taly, Ydrasse, Marcistar, GuiltyLion, Shiro, Galron, Something_Smart

With 16 alive it takes 9 votes to execute

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Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2021-12-28 20:00:00)

[Harley Quinn]

Then it’s just her read on me that was probably bad then.

I've decided I shouldn't act instantly on things I don't like, and that I need to give them time, and then go look into it, like obviously I still don't tr you now, but I'm not going back to tunneling until I sit here for an hour staring at ISOs. Even if I'm feeling bad vibes from people, SR lines, I can't just act on it when I feel like, and I have to take into account playstyles that clash with me. thus time passing should help, and need to come up with genuine questions for SRs to answer. Cause obviously people's reaction to "I think X is scum" isn't gonna be happy, and I don't feel like blowing up the thread again. Like, I will admit I could've gone about my SR on you differently, but it's definitely a valid thought/read I was making in my head

I don’t recall our playstyles clashing too much in Koba game. Anyway, what is your current read on SS/galron. GL, Marci, STD, Norwee, Titus, Datisi?

In Koba game it wasn't all this meta talk... and "read this game from a 3 person hydra!!"
no clue what my reads are there. In case you missed me saying it, I have no reads on half the table...

Well of course not because I try to avoid doing that when I’m playing under alts but in this case mine was involuntarily outed. (*glares at a certain canine*). Okay, whenever you have them then?

[Harley Quinn]

Harley, how many times are you going to mention another game...

Why is that a problem?

[GuiltyLion]

he strikes me as the type to plan out his pairings more carefully as scum whereas that feels like genuine fear of getting left with a shit partner

what if scum!RH9 was too timid to make a move early

like I can see why you think this way, but I don't know if I agree, if he's a Planning Type he might have stalled in paralysis due to not sure what the Best Plan would be

and as scum he could then later be genuinely afraid of getting left with a partner that's bad for his win con

[Harley Quinn]

Harley, how many times are you going to mention another game...

remember when i asked harley why does she townread rh9 without mentioning other games

and the first thing she did was mention another game

good times

I’m sorry Datisi that I don’t explain things to your liking but I have given you reasons for why I think he’s town. It’s just the way my mind works. *shrug*

[GuiltyLion]

I agree with alyssa rh9 as endgame pair

where did this come from? you're confident on RH9 despite not being confident on half the table?

I don't think I have any endgame pairs at the moment, frankly. I've oscillated between Fire/Andante and Titus/STD but the more I townread S_S (and now potentially Galron??) the more it feels something is terribly wrong

[Harley Quinn]

I would like more people to chime in and say whether they think it's possible Shiro is pocketing Harley.

If enough people say so then at least we can prove to her that they're not all in bad faith.

I definitely agree with your vote/push on the "Shiro solving" inconsistency and could see Shiro pocketing HQ here

I could also still imagine a scum!HQ paired with town!Shiro defending him,

so it kinda feels to me like that pairing is likely T/S flavored in some way or another

I need to reread catboi again to try to remember why I townread him and if those were Good Reasons

Why is it likely? I will be very much looking forward to your take on cb.

[Alyssa The Lamb]

I agree with alyssa rh9 as endgame pair

where did this come from? you're confident on RH9 despite not being confident on half the table?

I don't think I have any endgame pairs at the moment, frankly. I've oscillated between Fire/Andante and Titus/STD but the more I townread S_S (and now potentially Galron??) the more it feels something is terribly wrong

I vibe with this

[Harley Quinn]

VoteCount 1.5

Firebringer - Andante [1] - Titus
Taly - Ydrasse [0] -
Save the Dragons - Titus [0] -
Marcistar - NorwegianBoyEE [2] - Save The Dragons, Alyssa the Lamb
Datisi - GuiltyLion [0] -
RH9 - Alyssa the Lamb [0] -
Shiro - Harley Quinn [3] - Datisi, Andante, Firebringer,
Galron - Something_Smart [2] - NorwegianBoyEE. Harley Quinn

Not Voting [8]

- RH9, Taly, Ydrasse, Marcistar, GuiltyLion, Shiro, Galron, Something_Smart

With 16 alive it takes 9 votes to execute

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Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2021-12-28 20:00:00)

Wild, we still are the lead wagon.

[Alyssa The Lamb]

What were the slots that specifically want SS+Galron to go first?

[Alyssa The Lamb]

oh hey, it was the two pairings that I wanted to remove in first dance

[Datisi]

What were the slots that specifically want SS+Galron to go first?

oh hey, it was the two pairings that I wanted to remove in first dance

can you use names? my memory is nonexistent

[Alyssa The Lamb]

Norwe and HQ

[Harley Quinn]

oh hey, it was the two pairings that I wanted to remove in first dance

???

[GuiltyLion]

Norwee, what has marci been posting in your PT? any update on your read on her?

[Harley Quinn]

Norwe and HQ

So your read has suddenly flipped on me, is that what you’re saying?

[Harley Quinn]

Norwe and HQ

So your read has suddenly flipped on me, is that what you’re saying?

So I’m legit confused by this Alyssa, you just gave a number of reasons why you think I’m town, so why even make this post?

Not really sure what you’re trying to do here?

[Datisi]

ah, you meant the slot voting there, i'm big dumb

yeah sure let's try

VOTE: marci / norwee

[Firebringer]

I approve all votes by dats forever.

[Harley Quinn]

the part I really hate about this is that I think HQ's posting this page is town indicative

and that's the part that makes me want to leave

I think HQ takes the cue to shut up as scum and doesn't keep challenging literally everything when multiple people are calling for all this extra shit to stop until more lists are out

i skipped all of harley's posts that talk about meta, so can you explain

pedit: ah i see
would she really shut up if she's so certain that she should be imitating her town game by screaming at everyone who scumreads her?

If that was all it was, it wouldn't be town

But she's challenging other reads too, which makes a difference

Have you changed your mind on any of this?