Holiday Dance Party ---- Game Over

[Something_Smart]

And once you identify one correct TvT pairing, scum have no win condition left if there's only one left

If there's no S/S pairing they have no wincon no matter how many scum are left though.

[Datisi]

Because guess which two pairings I pushed instantly

you voted harley/shiro and then you voted marct/norwee and stayed there until the flip

so you can tell me how you pushing harley/shiro is relevant right now or how it ties in to you now wanting andante dead

I explicitly said I wanted those two pairings gone immediately

okay

but i still don't understand how that relates to you pushing andante here???

[Harley Quinn]

This is a real vote. I just wanted to give STD a wake up call. Not that I’m certain he can’t be scum but no town should have bothbof us in their PoE. That’s more often > rand, scum positioning for a miselim.

i explicitly didn't have both of you in POE

That’s why my vote is on gl, not you. This gives me flashbacks to tm 2020, where Math who has no clue how to read me, kept pressuring Titus to vote me until she eventually caved to the pressure. Not saying that’s necessarily happening but it’s hard not to see it that way. I’m thinking that despite you being dead wrong on me, it would probably make way morz sense for scum!you to suss on Shiro hers > me because that would make it a helluva a lot easier to get us miselimed.

[Alyssa The Lamb]

And once you identify one correct TvT pairing, scum have no win condition left if there's only one left

If there's no S/S pairing they have no wincon no matter how many scum are left though.

Actually yeah, you're right

It's technically a guaranteed win, but your odds still go way up the more guaranteed TvT pairings there are

That's kinda why I like info flips way more than reads flips

[RH9]

when? be specific and reference any posts in your ISO where you suggested at this, even vaguely

also, RH9, has Alyssa said anything indicating suspicion of me in your PT?

Not really. I'm asking Alyssa if I can tell them something which she asked me not to share yet.

[Harley Quinn]

And once you identify one correct TvT pairing, scum have no win condition left if there's only one left

If there's no S/S pairing they have no wincon no matter how many scum are left though.

I’d be more open to an SvS pairing had Marci/Norwee not flipped S - T. Double scum pairings are frought with risk unless you have no other options. Ftr, Me and Ydrasse didn’t want to be in a PT with town!sans in DW III but it just worked out that way, so while it’s possible it’s extremely risky. How many lover-based dances has that even happened in? And Squid game really shouldn’t count in that.

[Alyssa The Lamb]

Dw guys I'm coaching him on what to say here

Just to get it out there since I guarantee that will be mentioned by somebody regardless

[Harley Quinn]

I’m not liking gl sayinf that one of Alyssa/RH9, me/Shiro is double scum. My working theory is that if gl is scum doing this and if Alyssa/RH9 flip T - T, then he can push me/Shiro as the presumably double scum pairing and breeze his way to a potential scum victory because it’s just easier to not have to individually read our slots. I’m just wondering if it’s in gl’s wheelhouse to try to pull this off as scum. Is his scumgame anywhere near RC league? Only game I saw scum!him he was really obvious scum but that was a while ago when Creature was still had bell levels of transparency.

[RH9]

when? be specific and reference any posts in your ISO where you suggested at this, even vaguely

also, RH9, has Alyssa said anything indicating suspicion of me in your PT?

Not really. I'm asking Alyssa if I can tell them something which she asked me not to share yet.

I asked. She thinks that GL is playing like 'rubbish' or is scum. Datisi, she says, is like fed up Town.

[GuiltyLion]

How tf am I supposed to tr this? I almost want to view this as tstbs because you have them as double scum and I just think that’s whack.

Is RH9 townie to you?

If no, why is Alyssa defending him and townreading him so much?

As for the tsbts comment, I am town and you feel it in your bones. Search your heart, you know it to be true.

[Alyssa The Lamb]

What

[Alyssa The Lamb]

I meant the other thing

[GuiltyLion]

I eliminated scum with my vote right alongside hers, how is that rubbish.

[RH9]

I tried to paraphrase.

[Something_Smart]

Why are we playing PT telephone

Just post your takes in the goddamn thread, it isn't hard

[Harley Quinn]

when? be specific and reference any posts in your ISO where you suggested at this, even vaguely

also, RH9, has Alyssa said anything indicating suspicion of me in your PT?

Not really. I'm asking Alyssa if I can tell them something which she asked me not to share yet.

I asked. She thinks that GL is playing like 'rubbish' or is scum. Datisi, she says, is like fed up Town.

That’s kind’ve my take on it too. I think if scum is in that pair it’s gl and his readslist is as scummy af. He not only has me and Shiro together but he has Alyssa right after us.

I have not liked him and LLD hard sr him.

[GuiltyLion]

PT telephone is good to flush out any S/S pairs

[Datisi]

s_s, the game obviously isn't confusing enough

[Harley Quinn]

The truth is GL is opportunistically looking for anything they can push me on to rebut my push and discredit this.

My thoughts are that they are either aiming for this to look like a TvT to others (if scum) or are actively incapable of accepting others can scumread their play via arrogance, and are death tunneled in OMGUS (if town).

Their "you can't even read me" first reaction has some of those elements but again, if I was in GL's shoes I would respond exactly how they are to try and worm from it.

But as I have said before, losing confidence and backing off from reads like this usually loses me games so I am pretty willing to let this ride.

[RH9]

Why are we playing PT telephone

Just post your takes in the goddamn thread, it isn't hard

I chose the wrong synonym for the word.

[Alyssa The Lamb]

when? be specific and reference any posts in your ISO where you suggested at this, even vaguely

also, RH9, has Alyssa said anything indicating suspicion of me in your PT?

Not really. I'm asking Alyssa if I can tell them something which she asked me not to share yet.

I asked. She thinks that GL is playing like 'rubbish' or is scum. Datisi, she says, is like fed up Town.

That post didn't exist when datisi asked you

He wants the other one

[Alyssa The Lamb]

You know what

Should i just post the entire pt

Frankly I don't care anymore since my gambit is already ruined

[RH9]

You know what

Should i just post the entire pt

Frankly I don't care anymore since my gambit is already ruined

Just paraphrase the other post.

[Harley Quinn]

I mean if you're scum!LLD and town!marci proposes to you, do you want to accept that pairing? Marci is pretty high on the "likely to be limmed" list and LLD is scum I would think has good odds of going deep

I also don't really know what LLD's read on marci is. if town!LLD townreads marci, why not pair with marci? if town!LLD scumreads marci, why not pair with marci and volunteer to be limmed/leave? that's what I would do

also, I just don't feel like it's all that likely that both are town given the number of my other townreads and my sense of the gamestate at the moment. if they are then I'm definitely suckered somewhere, but again, don't see why town!LLD can't accept a marci proposal and it's not like she's expressed a strong interest in any other people that she particularly wants to pair with

Why did you want LLD and Marci to pair?

[Harley Quinn]

Everybody, rank each pair (except mine - calling IC privilege) on how likely you believe scum resides in them.

town
Datisi & GuiltyLion
Save the Dragons & Titus
(my pair here? maybe?)
RH9 & Alyssa the Lamb = Galron & Something_Smart
Shiro & Harley Quinn
Firebringer & Andante
scum

Taly i feel you should recognize that this is my towngame.
You have the power to stop this awful wagon on me/Marci if you just say it.
I also feel Marci is more likely town from our PT so i’m firmly in the belief that our lim would be -Wincon for town.

It's not you I'm worried about darling

ur worried abt me?

Hmmm, thoughts on marci readslist?