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[GuiltyLion]

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check who am I voting

[Harley Quinn]

I’m not. I’m saying her self-hammer came after your vote and that it’s unlikely none of her buddies are onwagon or are you disputing that?

why am I more likely to be a buddy than STD or Alyssa or Firebringer if your reason is because I was on wagon and she self-hammered

it's like you're blaming me for setting her up to self-hammer when my vote was sitting on her wagon for an extremely long time

I don’t sr Fire and STD was the vote following NM, so he’s earliest on a scumwagon which tends to be > rand chance of being town.

[Shiro]

To set the record straight though, Nancy I would have paired up with you no matter alignment. Like I littetaly don't give a damn about what's optimal for the pairs at all.

The moment I learned who you are I would have paired, no questions asked, even if in the scenario I am scum my team told me I am gamethrowing.

[GuiltyLion]

and Alyssa?

Harley, if you were to

assume that I am town

, then if you and Shiro are also town, who would you say I should be suspecting?

I really don't think Fire or Titus are scum at all, and I also TR STD

[Firebringer]

I think theres only 1 max scum on wagon but i don't see point in hunting that person right now. I want the other 2.

[Shiro]

dont know what u mean

It was a joke about people ability to read me xD

[Firebringer]

To set the record straight though, Nancy I would have paired up with you no matter alignment. Like I littetaly don't give a damn about what's optimal for the pairs at all.

The moment I learned who you are I would have paired, no questions asked, even if in the scenario I am scum my team told me I am gamethrowing.

Hasn't this been what im saying.
And also no ur actually a liar, if i was free and not dancing with anyone u and i both know we would be dancing right now and I would be threatening to leave u for cheating on me with others

[Firebringer]

dont know what u mean

It was a joke about people ability to read me xD

lol well that one flew by me

[Shiro]

To set the record straight though, Nancy I would have paired up with you no matter alignment. Like I littetaly don't give a damn about what's optimal for the pairs at all.

The moment I learned who you are I would have paired, no questions asked, even if in the scenario I am scum my team told me I am gamethrowing.

Hasn't this been what im saying.
And also no ur actually a liar, if i was free and not dancing with anyone u and i both know we would be dancing right now and I would be threatening to leave u for cheating on me with others

You weren't free through and I replaced a gent.

You forced me into a disguise >U

[Alyssa The Lamb]

I don't think there's ever a scenario where I try to be the endgame scum in a dance setup

[Harley Quinn]

Marci self-hammered after you voted. That could just be a coincidence but scum doesn’t usually like to self hammer if none of their buddies are onwagon.

she self hammered after

Taly

, Ydrasse,

Not_Mafia,

and Firebringer voted after I did, yes.

We obviously know that NM and Taly are town on that wagon and I don’t sr Fire or Ydrasse, so if you’re also town, then the entire scumteam had to be offwagon and that’s possible but unlikely especially because of marci’s self-hammer. marci didn’t want to give anyone offwagon a chance to vote there, which is why Titus is townreading us.

[RH9]

To be fair, those who SR GL, would scum!GL go on a wagon with no traction?

[Alyssa The Lamb]

I'm dead serious when I say that having one scum at 6p is borderline a win condition for town

losing all but one scum makes the game so hard if town has been playing at all competently

[RH9]

To be fair, those who SR GL, would scum!GL go on a wagon with no traction?

I don't think that he would.

[GuiltyLion]

so scum!GL just predicted a head of time that Taly, Ydrasse, N_M, and Firebringer would follow my vote, so once I placed that E-5 vote, it was actually basically a hammer. brilliant

[GuiltyLion]

predicted Not_Mafia self-voting before he even replaced in

[Harley Quinn]

and Alyssa?

Harley, if you were to

assume that I am town

, then if you and Shiro are also town, who would you say I should be suspecting?

I really don't think Fire or Titus are scum at all, and I also TR STD

Yeah I agree with that, then maybe it’s Andante, SS and God knows who else?

VOTE: Andante

[Alyssa The Lamb]

Honestly

If SS is legit scum this game, he actually deserves a win

[Harley Quinn]

To set the record straight though, Nancy I would have paired up with you no matter alignment. Like I littetaly don't give a damn about what's optimal for the pairs at all.

The moment I learned who you are I would have paired, no questions asked, even if in the scenario I am scum my team told me I am gamethrowing.

Well that’s nice to hear but I’m really think you’re town because cb was as townie af and you haven’t done anything to make me doubt you so far.

So gl if you’re town, your solve is wrong and you need to be looking elsewhere.

[GuiltyLion]

here's a question for Andante voters

who are marci/Andante's two buddies

it kinda feels to me like voting Andante is somewhat of a cop out today. There's still gonna be the core underlying tension between the HQ/Shiro pair, GL, RH9/Alyssa... like we'll still have to litigate this issue even if Andante flips scum. so I don't understand why voting Andante is a better option than hashing out what we think is going on with HQ/Shiro hard town locking each other, Titus and Datisi being universally townread, and no one really scumreading Galron/S_S anymore.

and I feel like I'm boxed in this weird position by HQ, because she townreads a bunch of slots, and she treats it like it's inherently scummy for me to suspect those slots, so it puts me in a position where scumreading anybody is going to be something she'll use against me, whether it's her slot or Alyssa/RH9 pair or whoever

[Harley Quinn]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... B%5D=36297

cb in pair game. I can also link him in CA game as well. Just because his ISO is as townie af, doesn’t necessarily mean his reads were correct but he was right on Prism/Norwee and Marci.

[Firebringer]

Maybe I should do a ISO wall of all the prime suspects here.
review bottom four of these.

Insured by the Pooky Bear:
Taly the Golden Goose
Ydrasse Entertainment


To Town To Fail (so town u question this u smell funny):
Datisi Inc
GuiltyLion and Brothers
Alyssa Farms
Titus Airways

Business as Usual (not in my suspect list either townread or don't care):
Firebringer Tech
Something_Smart Devices
RH9 International

Economic Downturn (stocks seen better days):
Harley Comics
Andante Fresh


Needing a Bailout: (scum leans)
Shiro Shack
STD Pharmacy
Galron Station

[Alyssa The Lamb]

as an aside

Galron has done so little in this game relative to everybody else that that pairing is borderline always going to be a compromise kill or poe kill

yet SS is doing next to nothing to try to preserve his pairing and is still staying engaged regardless

so for him to be scum, he either has some out there plan to get himself to endgame or he has another partner that he doesn't need to help get to endgame

aka it's more likely he's just town

[GuiltyLion]

how was he right on Marci?

I think marci has moved into being pretty clearly town from her recent posts, not sure if people are skipping them or what but I feel like that ought to be acknowledged more.

HQ you're getting a lot of basic facts about the game wrong

[GuiltyLion]

as an aside

Galron has done so little in this game relative to everybody else that that pairing is borderline always going to be a compromise kill or poe kill

yet SS is doing next to nothing to try to preserve his pairing and is still staying engaged regardless

so for him to be scum, he either has some out there plan to get himself to endgame or he has another partner that he doesn't need to help get to endgame

aka it's more likely he's just town

yep, in full agreement that S_S/Galron are both likely town