Open 839: White flag Holder [Game Over]

[Andante]

I genuinely like how they called me out on it, and thus, I don't see them flipping red

[RH9]

Andante, be careful of the interactions police.

[RH9]

They will probably use anybody who didn't dislike M&M as part of their '

amazing

' and '

totally

not scummy' PoE.

[Milk & Mocha]

Honestly your townread on me a little earlier gave me bad vibes like you were trying to buddy up to survive

bad bunny >:(

[Milk & Mocha]

Should I be voting M&M?

Why would you? You've consistently been calling us firmly town throughout.

[Milk & Mocha]

i literally got this game solved oml

[Harley Quinn]

Who

fakeclaimed

IC?

VOTE: Toogeloo

~Taly

M & M

[Harley Quinn]

please tell me someone did not counterclaim IC this early... dont tell me the name, just a yes or no question.

if so my tracjetory will 180 and i will bark down this thread's throat

~taly

No, thankfully.

[Harley Quinn]

NumberQ pushed then while still claiming it which is the main reason for the wagon there. Three is guilty of the same but I personally find their early play very +town


The main question is if the bears are jester as opposed to scum. I am of the impression of the former.

Bear wasn't baiting a cc I think

Yeah and I don’t think actual IC would be this stupid regardless.

[Harley Quinn]

Spoiler:

So since we're both mature adults here I want to talk to you about a book that my great uncle gave to me before he was taken by the Red Guard during the Cultural Revolution.

I think you might have heard of it, it is

Crime and Punishment

by Fyodor Dostoevsky.

Although at the time I was unable to read Russian as I was only four, I taught myself word by word because in the chaos of the time it seemed like a sanctuary to me.

You see books back then were forbidden, possessions of the upper class, to be found with a book would be a capital crime, even if you were only a child.

To read something other than 紅寶書 was considered a death sentence. If found out, we would be bound in the town square and stoned to death quite slowly by the entire village.

To refuse would be outting yourself as a person of principle, and during those times those people were quite rare and often died in excruciatingly public ways.

It was during those days in the farms that we had been forced to work in that I found a sense of purpose and justice in my life.

You see the story of Crime and Punishment is not complex, it is actually quite simple but the meaning that it carries for me is something else entirely.

I won't bore you with a summary, you can have Wikipedia for that.

However I do want to instill within you a sense of gravity about which you carry yourself in this life and the next.

My death here will not bring you joy or comfort for I will not flip mafia. That much is certain to me.

The question is how you will carry on the burden knowing that my blood will be upon your hands.

Victory, defeat, life, death. What are these concepts to us? Nothing but the wind.

But if they mean nothing to you, what is the purpose of you being here right now?

You spend precious hours of your life here with me, for what end?

In the waning twilight of your life, will you be glad you spent them pushing Pooky in a game where he was actually town?

I think life is too short sometimes, and perhaps the joys too few and far between.

I hope my death here will bring a smile to your face so it will not be a waste for both of us.

How is this not the jester?

Have you ever considered they're trying to jester tell

It’s possible but she’s going so out of her way to piss people off which seems counterintuitive.

[Harley Quinn]

lets weigh the players then

pooky

has a scumgame i am very unfamiliar with and his townrange seems quite big

noraa

i think i used to read quite well but that was awhile ago

toog

can honestly be accused of TMi as town because they can have very strong reads when their not 1v1ing

who must die D1

~taly

Toog is easy miselimbait in many games but he was scum in pair and accused another slot of that, iirc?

[Harley Quinn]

They are literally never getting night killed. Unless we want to take them to 4 town to see if they get stumped bleh

hardclaim jester mason

[Harley Quinn]

this setup is open, ic is mod confirmable. you admit i wasn't baiting a cc. why are you voting me?

You just made another hard claim? How do you expect us to take that seriously?

And wtf kind of bs claim is jester mason?

[Harley Quinn]

ok so nm coming in first post and calling himself a jester is also a hard claim isn't it? like ok maybe i'll become an easy mislim but also i typically get more TRs as the game progresses like i dont get your logic.

But nm makes that exact same first post every damn game he’s in, so that’s not really comparable.

[Harley Quinn]

I don’t know wtf Noraa’s doing but I think we should probably wait for Pooky to post, because Noraa has a pretty decent track record of getting herself killed early irrespective of alignment.

[Andante]

we kinda need someone to vote out here real soon... and preferably not MM. I'm down to vote a MM voter

[Three]

Let's say M&M really is just town. I don't think they're Jester, mainly because I'm fairly certain the real Jester perspective slipped earlier. If I'm wrong about them being scum then I'm really confused why Pooky is insistent that I'm scum and isn't even considering the possibility that I could be Jester. But fine, whatever, it's entirely possible we're TvT. Pooky in particular is just playing very anti-town and making the slot hard to work with in this case.

So in that case, is there merit in M&M's claim that scum are pocketing/defending them?

[Three]

we kinda need someone to vote out here real soon... and preferably not MM. I'm down to vote a MM voter

Why do you believe scum chooses to target M&M Day 1? They made a point that half the player list is LHF, and even if I don't agree with that it certainly implies scum could just settle for limming an easier target.

[ahhlo]

VOTE: vote: milk & mocha

[Three]

That's E-2 I believe. Be wary of a NM quick hammer.

[MegAzumarill]

Optimal lim is to just kill whoever gets to E-1 anyway

[MegAzumarill]

Obviously not always but in this case it's applicable

[RH9]

Should I be voting M&M?

Why would you? You've consistently been calling us firmly town throughout.

I did before in this game because I confused your lol-claim with a deliberate fakeclaim.

[RH9]

That's E-2 I believe. Be wary of a NM quick hammer.

Yeah. N_M. He'll quick hammer anybody. Absolutely anybody.

[Andante]

wasn't ahhhlo already voting MM?