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[Firebringer]

VOTE: Andante

Thank you

[Alyssa The Lamb]

Fire have you played with Andante before

[Firebringer]

Yes once before in dogs and cats. I was scum she was town and she was lim bait all game and i defended her. This is why im reluctant to call her scum this game.

[Alyssa The Lamb]

what was your general read on her playstyle

[Firebringer]

I find her copying of my reads/pushes to be concerning but ive been chalking it down as she isn't invested and she just townreads me. I have no idea or trust on my read on her. I am not gonna sit here and play defense on our lim.

[Titus]

Titus will a Taly/Ydra flip help u out at all besides helping u "sort ydra"

Yes. It's almost certainly S v S pairing if Ydrasse is town

[Firebringer]

what was your general read on her playstyle

she was all over the map, impulsive, and generally did things people didn't understand her motivations.

[Firebringer]

If andante flips town. I would 100% FOS STD, he was in dogs and cats and should realize that she is lim bait and hasn't said a word on it.

[Alyssa The Lamb]

I find her copying of my reads/pushes to be concerning but ive been chalking it down as she isn't invested and she just townreads me. I have no idea or trust on my read on her. I am not gonna sit here and play defense on our lim.

okay, I looked at a few of her past games and noted some rather interesting things

She's capable of top posting as town in fast paced games, as well as keeping up
She's capable of expressing thoughts as they come to her as town
She's expressed a similar type of response to being suspected in one of her scumgames
She's expressed pretty over the top emotions in one of her scumgames

There's also something particularly interesting I noted in her ISO at some point, but I'll have to see if I want to post quotes about it or not

[Firebringer]

holy shit im so in the zone of thinking std has to be scum i thought he was scumreading andante. Okay he has been saying andante is town. This game has me in mismemory holes.

[Alyssa The Lamb]

I noticed it particularly when I was doing the homework that Taly and I agreed to do a few days ago

she had the single worst trajectory towards townreading me of every player in the game, and it's actually one that I strongly suspect was influenced by the scum PT in some way because of how unnatural it is

[Firebringer]

i really need to do that reads reset like i promised. My case on std is dog shit.

[Firebringer]

I fully support an elim on our pair right now, but im not voting it or leaving dance. I want some vote analysis on this for u guys in future days if it flips scum like i think it very well could.

[Alyssa The Lamb]

I find her copying of my reads/pushes to be concerning but ive been chalking it down as she isn't invested and she just townreads me. I have no idea or trust on my read on her. I am not gonna sit here and play defense on our lim.

okay, I looked at a few of her past games and noted some rather interesting things

She's capable of top posting as town in fast paced games, as well as keeping up
She's capable of expressing thoughts as they come to her as town
She's expressed a similar type of response to being suspected in one of her scumgames
She's expressed pretty over the top emotions in one of her scumgames

There's also something particularly interesting I noted in her ISO at some point, but I'll have to see if I want to post quotes about it or not

btw, I don't call this a meta read, I call this a personality read

because what I've seen from looking at her games is a general idea of how her brain works, and applying that to how she's playing this game heavily skews her towards being scum rather than town

[Firebringer]

I find her copying of my reads/pushes to be concerning but ive been chalking it down as she isn't invested and she just townreads me. I have no idea or trust on my read on her. I am not gonna sit here and play defense on our lim.

okay, I looked at a few of her past games and noted some rather interesting things

She's capable of top posting as town in fast paced games, as well as keeping up
She's capable of expressing thoughts as they come to her as town
She's expressed a similar type of response to being suspected in one of her scumgames
She's expressed pretty over the top emotions in one of her scumgames

There's also something particularly interesting I noted in her ISO at some point, but I'll have to see if I want to post quotes about it or not

btw, I don't call this a meta read, I call this a personality read

because what I've seen from looking at her games is a general idea of how her brain works, and applying that to how she's playing this game heavily skews her towards being scum rather than town

I agree with u alot that she is 'different' in alot of ways here that are key to what would be her way of solving imo. She seems checked out here if town and ive been kind of leaning on that as the reason for her actions. But it could be just as simple she is scum and not trying to stir pot with me because of how much ive leaned into possibly leaving.

[Alyssa The Lamb]

idk

her iso feels really stiff

[Titus]

Ugh going to have to disagree with StD here, Fire feels town.

[Firebringer]

i need some dats and guiltylion in my life

[Andante]

ooh I missed the conversation about me!!!!

[Andante]

I find her copying of my reads/pushes to be concerning but ive been chalking it down as she isn't invested and she just townreads me. I have no idea or trust on my read on her. I am not gonna sit here and play defense on our lim.

okay, I looked at a few of her past games and noted some rather interesting things

She's capable of top posting as town in fast paced games, as well as keeping up
She's capable of expressing thoughts as they come to her as town
She's expressed a similar type of response to being suspected in one of her scumgames
She's expressed pretty over the top emotions in one of her scumgames

There's also something particularly interesting I noted in her ISO at some point, but I'll have to see if I want to post quotes about it or not

She's capable of top posting as town in fast paced games, as well as keeping up - Yeah that's a fact, I never said I was incapable of it here, I've been busy with real life, preventing me from sitting here 24/7 posting. Usually I just do nothing IRL and post a lot, it's super bad, I'll get nothing done

She's capable of expressing thoughts as they come to her as town- Yeah, I've been doing so here?

She's expressed a similar type of response to being suspected in one of her scumgames - Uh I only have 1 recent scum game I believe, No town, everything else is a lot older, so I'm glad we're using meta!!

She's expressed pretty over the top emotions in one of her scumgames - feel free to link a game, cause I can definitely go find you a passionate towngame lol


So what I'm hearing is "Andante hasn't done anything this game and is perfectly capable of it"
And to that I say, yeah I know. I am. However, there is 5000 posts and I've probably read no more than 3000 of them, and every single page is just spam/people repeating the same stuff, so I'm just like "whatever... not worth my time" And when I am here no one wants to interact with me, I think RH9 is the only one who has, so I'm litterally just having a good time, listening to stuff said, and agreeing/disagreeing with stuff. it's not really that hard. not my fault I've literally been ignored 90% of the time I've been here

[Firebringer]

I appreciate you Andante.

[Andante]

If I were to start tryharding right now, I would get eaten alive by people, told nothing I say makes sense, so it's quite literally not worth my time. I've been having fun here lately though I think Titus was unfairly pushing Galron (may have names confused) and thus, voting Titus/Dragons is good by me, like even if I sheeped Fire to get here, I still agree with this vote. not too sure what people expect from me? You know the kind of game I've been playing here, want me to change it up majorly? mehhh I do what I want

[Andante]

thanks fire!!! I appreciate you too!! best partner ever

[Alyssa The Lamb]

I find her copying of my reads/pushes to be concerning but ive been chalking it down as she isn't invested and she just townreads me. I have no idea or trust on my read on her. I am not gonna sit here and play defense on our lim.

okay, I looked at a few of her past games and noted some rather interesting things

She's capable of top posting as town in fast paced games, as well as keeping up
She's capable of expressing thoughts as they come to her as town
She's expressed a similar type of response to being suspected in one of her scumgames
She's expressed pretty over the top emotions in one of her scumgames

There's also something particularly interesting I noted in her ISO at some point, but I'll have to see if I want to post quotes about it or not

She's capable of top posting as town in fast paced games, as well as keeping up - Yeah that's a fact, I never said I was incapable of it here, I've been busy with real life, preventing me from sitting here 24/7 posting. Usually I just do nothing IRL and post a lot, it's super bad, I'll get nothing done

She's capable of expressing thoughts as they come to her as town- Yeah, I've been doing so here?

She's expressed a similar type of response to being suspected in one of her scumgames - Uh I only have 1 recent scum game I believe, No town, everything else is a lot older, so I'm glad we're using meta!!

She's expressed pretty over the top emotions in one of her scumgames - feel free to link a game, cause I can definitely go find you a passionate towngame lol


So what I'm hearing is "Andante hasn't done anything this game and is perfectly capable of it"
And to that I say, yeah I know. I am. However, there is 5000 posts and I've probably read no more than 3000 of them, and every single page is just spam/people repeating the same stuff, so I'm just like "whatever... not worth my time" And when I am here no one wants to interact with me, I think RH9 is the only one who has, so I'm litterally just having a good time, listening to stuff said, and agreeing/disagreeing with stuff. it's not really that hard. not my fault I've literally been ignored 90% of the time I've been here

the individual parts by themselves don't mean anything

together they paint that you find it easier to get engaged into a game as town and tend to push your emotions more when you're scum, probably as a way to compensate for not being able to push it with your thoughts naturally when they're not genuine

just based on what I've seen from this game, that is an entirely reasonable read on your personality

what I've noticed is that you've been struggling to maintain your emotions while providing thoughts at the same time

I'm not seeing you just post stuff whenever you think of it, it looks a lot more manufactured than that

I've noticed quite a few times where you start with an overexaggerated show of emotion before throwing out a bunch of posts or general thoughts all at once; a lot of the times you don't, there's really not much there relevant to the game itself

and I've seen very little emotion a lot of the time you do have game progressing thoughts, they're very commonly separated from each other

[Andante]

the individual parts by themselves don't mean anything

together they paint that you find it easier to get engaged into a game as town and tend to push your emotions more when you're scum, probably as a way to compensate for not being able to push it with your thoughts naturally when they're not genuine

just based on what I've seen from this game, that is an entirely reasonable read on your personality

what I've noticed is that you've been struggling to maintain your emotions while providing thoughts at the same time

I'm not seeing you just post stuff whenever you think of it, it looks a lot more manufactured than that

I've noticed quite a few times where you start with an overexaggerated show of emotion before throwing out a bunch of posts or general thoughts all at once; a lot of the times you don't, there's really not much there relevant to the game itself

and I've seen very little emotion a lot of the time you do have game progressing thoughts, they're very commonly separated from each other

> you find it easier to get engaged into a game as town and tend to push your emotions more when you're scum, probably as a way to compensate for not being able to push it with your thoughts naturally when they're not genuine
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=88224
here's literally my most recent scumgame, which I definitely got engaged with. Like, this is my 1 game from being back recently after my "long break" you might as well look at that single one if you're "digging through past games to find something"

I swear, I hate meta.



> I'm not seeing you just post stuff whenever you think of it, it looks a lot more manufactured than that
What do you want from me? I show up here once or twice a day, literally not sure what you expect. want me to quote 500 posts and react everytime I return? no thanks.


>I've noticed quite a few times where you start with an overexaggerated show of emotion before throwing out a bunch of posts or general thoughts all at once; a lot of the times you don't, there's really not much there relevant to the game itself
So I'm not posting enough, and I'm posting too much? nice to know. got it.


>and I've seen very little emotion a lot of the time you do have game progressing thoughts, they're very commonly separated from each other
"you show too much emotion" and now "where's your emotion"



like, I'll say it again, idk how people are expecting me to play. I TOLD yall, I hate bringing emotion into games, and to literally ignore my meltdown. Remember that class causing me all that stress? yeah, I failed it. but hey whatever, that was clearly game related...

I don't get why we're pushing me now. If you TR Fire, cool, listen to fire, gamesolve with fire, we're not endgaming anyways. Did no one else see the bad push from titus on galron?? (I really should go factcheck myself on who had the bad push...) just vote dragons/titus and we can deal with next scum after that. it's really not as hard as people are making this out to be