Open 840 - Guardians of the Fortress [Game Over]

[imaginality]

pedit: Oh there we go. Just one more needed at any location I think?

We have to fill two locations before remaining players get autoassigned, so there's still two votes to go.

[Prism]

Guardian Assignment Tracker 1.6

Location	Guardians
Gate (2)	VP Baltar (418), imaginality (424)
Keep (2)	Lukewarm (28), Aristeia (36)
Wall (2)	Toogeloo (422), numberQ (423)
Unassigned (3)	Tanner, DArby, implosion

3 Guardians remain unassigned. The Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2021-12-23 10:50:00).

[numberQ]

Oh right, for some reason I thought it was that the final three get auto assigned. Though if I thought about that for more than 3 seconds I would have realized that made not much sense lol

[implosion]

VOTE: Keep

Good night.

[Tanner]

well, i assume there's no point in waiting for a darby comeback/replacement since the assignments have been decided, and it's anti-town to actually be giving reads out at this point, so...

VOTE: gate

see ya on the other side.

[Prism]

Guardian Assignment Tracker 1.7 [FINAL]

Location	Guardians
Gate (3)	VP Baltar (418), imaginality (424), Tanner (429)
Keep (3)	Lukewarm (28), Aristeia (36), implosion (428)
Wall (3)	Toogeloo (422), numberQ (423), DArby (Autoassigned with 429)
Unassigned (0)

0 Guardians remain unassigned. Day 1 is over.

No win condition has been achieved.

[Prism]

The nine have made their penultimate choices. Some seized the moment immediately to secure the position best for them, some tagged along, others...made no decision at all, until the passage of time had made it for them.

The beating of your heart reminds you that time continues to tick, and what might be the last two days of your life slip away uncontrollably. Still in peak physical condition, the time surely cannot be so soon, and your life cannot end here.

Whatever your own motivations, work with your compatriots to secure for yourselves a spot in the realm of the living at tomorrow's end. As nerves set in, you cannot help but wonder: did you really make the right choice? Perhaps another has the same fear, and there remains time yet, however brief, to fix the error before it turns fatal.

Night 1 has begun.

The deadline is in (expired on 2021-12-23 13:15:00).

The deadline is in (expired on 2021-12-26 10:15:00).

[Prism]

DArby has 36 hours to respond to their prod via PM. I will publicly announce if this prod is picked up, and Day 2 will start on time if so.

If a replacement is deemed necessary, I will add the appropriate number of hours to the deadline.

Be aware that this may result in an unusually long night in conjunction with holiday extensions.

[Prism]

DArby will be replaced. I will adjust the deadline after finding a replacement.

[Prism]

Pavowski replaces DArby.

I will be restarting the deadline at 48 hours, and am adding the holiday extensions for Dec. 24th/25th.

The Night 1 deadline is in (expired on 2021-12-26 10:15:00).

Enjoy the extended break and happy holidays, everyone!

[Prism]

You all hoped in vain that the night would pass without incident. A dreadful fire broke out at the gate, and threatened to overwhelm the fortress entirely. All pitched into help, or at least put up a front, but one stood out beyond the rest. Tanner stayed up all night, successfully coordinating your firefighting efforts, before eventually collapsing from a mixture of exhaustion and injury. Now bedridden and covered in burns, there can be little doubt to where his loyalty lies. Still, the only person you can trust can no longer defend the Gate, and you're a man short. A lone guardian will surely be betrayed if left alone with a saboteur. Tanner's earned the right to choose his replacement.

May he have as much wisdom as he does courage.

Tanner is a

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Guardian

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.

Two of you seem to have reconsidered your original positions. Rumors of threatening notes, nervous second guessing, or strategic swaps are all denied. It's simply for the best of the fortress. Reluctantly, you all agree. It's not like you have a choice. The day has dawned. Try not let it be your last.

implosion is now at the Wall while Pavowski is now at the Keep.

Day 2 has begun, and you may now post. The deadline is in (expired on 2022-01-06 15:00:00).

[Prism]

Fortress Status Report 1.0

Gate	Guardian Votes
VP Baltar (0)
imaginality (0)
Not voting (3)	VP Baltar, imaginality, Tanner

Keep	Guardian Votes
Lukewarm (0)
Aristeia (0)
Pavowski (0)
Not voting (3)	Lukewarm, Aristeia, Pavowski

Wall	Guardian Votes
Toogeloo (0)
numberQ (0)
implosion (0)
Not voting (3)	Toogeloo, numberQ, implosion

The score is 0-0.

The Day 2 deadline is in (expired on 2022-01-06 15:00:00).

The Day 2 deadline is in (expired on 2022-01-07 06:25:00).

[Pavowski]

Hi all, don't worry, I'm here to ensure the win

[Tanner]

well then. gonna need to get some drinks for this game after all.

i do have some Thoughts(tm), but i think it's a good idea to let the rest of you speak first.

[Pavowski]

Oh GOD I'm at the keep with Luke

LUKE

IS THIS THE GAME

[Prism]

Welcome back, everyone. I hope both that you enjoyed your holiday, and that the extended break wasn't too much. I have added 24 hours to this day's deadline to compensate for New Year's Eve. That day will not count against prod timers, generally based off of EST but I will try to accommodate for timezones.

Don't ask me why I didn't do the same for New Year's Day, because I really don't know but we're committed now.

[VP Baltar]

well then. gonna need to get some drinks for this game after all.

i do have some Thoughts(tm), but i think it's a good idea to let the rest of you speak first.

Oh do you now!

Imma be VLA until tomorrow evening for me, just a heads up to everyone

[numberQ]

Long night made me forget a lot of the game state lol

Was Pav moved because they're scum and it was obvious that slot would be voted out at the Wall? I could see both Luke and Ari being town tbh in light of this swap.

I have to look back at Toog and implo to remind myself what I thought of them.

[Tanner]

well then. gonna need to get some drinks for this game after all.

i do have some Thoughts(tm), but i think it's a good idea to let the rest of you speak first.

Oh do you now!

Imma be VLA until tomorrow evening for me, just a heads up to everyone

you wanna fuckin call me scum for it huh???

[numberQ]

Oh wait, if Pav is scum and they were swapped then either A) implo is ALSO scum and we managed to put one scum in each location by accident, or B) Toog is lockscum.

@mod

, will individual minigames flip at the time they're completed? So if we finish for example the Wall today, will all 3 alignments at the Wall be revealed before the end of the game?

[VP Baltar]

well then. gonna need to get some drinks for this game after all.

i do have some Thoughts(tm), but i think it's a good idea to let the rest of you speak first.

Oh do you now!

Imma be VLA until tomorrow evening for me, just a heads up to everyone

you wanna fuckin call me scum for it huh???

Obv ur scum

[Prism]

@mod, will individual minigames flip at the time they're completed? So if we finish for example the Wall today, will all 3 alignments at the Wall be revealed before the end of the game?

A minigame will be publicly resolved, and all players in it publicly flipped, when a decisive vote is reached.

With the exception of Tanner, who may post at any time, players may not post in any gamethreads after I publicly resolve their minigame.

In your example, the moment the Wall is resolved I will post the outcome and the players will be publicly flipped.

[numberQ]

Oh cool. So the question is whose flip will help solve other locations? I don't have that answer until I look back at the thread, not gonna happen right now though.

[Lukewarm]

Hey everyone, hope you all had a good Christmas!

I spent a good part of my Christmas Eve rereading this game.

I did an iso dive on each slot to put together my thoughts. I see the Tanner reveal, which... surprises me. Will need to reevaluate some things

[Lukewarm]

Here are my thoughts on each slot after doing an ISO dive on them - apologies in advance, these are rough. Did not find time to do a second pass

The Keep

Ari

Early offering to vote Tanner in the keep

36 - Ari votes herself into the Keep in response to me voting myself into the Keep. The way this plays out (and later comments Ari makes saying that they thought it was a scum claim on my part 102, 107). Look to me like they were taking actions to step in the way of the perceived scum plan.

Follow up from before with making the offer to Tanner, Ari then offers to vote for me in 293, and 411 where Ari seems to be assuming that they get the vote in the keep. Ari does not appear to be playing to win the keep - I think this points pretty strongly towards town Ari unless she is swapped out.

Another thing that stood out to me was the change in tone with Tanner after I out my suspicions of the slot. Basically all of Ari's ISO from 344 to 384 turns and starts questioning Tanner, following up on the new concerns. 350 picking apart his original plan, and the rest I think is all trying to get a rise and reaction from him to sort him better. 368, following up on his current game choice, actively building off of my points against tanner.

This gives me flashbacks to Ari in our prior game.

Spoiler:

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go
This is a link to Ari's iso from that game. -- It very much is the same style and tone, even with the same Dats flirting. But when they see something that worries them, they switch.

They started with a laissez-faire attitude, that I think is pretty clearly an alt gimmick.

But then their hunger to solve has poked through that facade at various points.

This is a quote from ME that game (post 1436) And it is the same feeling I got from Ari when they turned their questions towards Tanner after I talked about their game choice. Although, to be fair, there is less concrete solving coming from Ari this game, since they started holding their reads a little closer to their chest, but that desire to pick at a suspicion on Tanner over powered the alt gimmick of wanting to blindly flirt with him.

I feel really good calling Ari town here.


Implosion

post 79 is a pro town post I think. And it is his genuine thoughts on the set up, given it being the same that he outlined in the scum chat for that game, post 11 https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12894505

89 -- hmmm. Him linking directly to his scum chat, where he made that similar post, almost undercuts the townie points from 79. Because, yes they look exactly the same as his genuine thoughts, but he also pointed everyone directly to where we would need to go to see that.

I did reall like his follow up with me [118, 129] and my decision to go the keep. Felt like he was trying to get to that info to sort me.

I also find his 178 very pro town to make. Scum implo wants me making the vote to avoid the scum in the keep from being forced to make the vote, so trying to talk me out accepting it is pretty +town for him imo. And, this one (more so then post 79) is something that he very easily could have just stayed out of. Like it was a fight between me and Ari, and he was not in the keep yet. I think that scum implo ignores my post about being the one to vote.

[/u]Reread verdict if there is no swap[/u]
I am leaning towards them both being town here But, if there is no swap in the keep, I think I get get the vote power. If I had to chose right this second, I think I would vote Ari?

Like I said, I have played with Ari before, and she is hitting the same cords with me. And then with Implo, I also realized that a lot of his iso is focused on mech, and while his mech all seems really spot on and pro-town, I could possibly see scum hiding behind that? But again, this is just "if no swap" - otherwise, I am leaning both town here.