open 841: concgratulations to the winners and losers

[skitter30]

thus far i like andante and dats
and maybe faker iv and mare

pings on midwaybear
and i'm still somewhat suspicious of catboi's 21 but he obviously isn't super into the game yet so idk we'll see. the sleepless vote was a good point tho

and faker/mare probably aren't scum together

[Mare]

I don’t have a reason to be skeptical yet and I’m not going to waste my energy on it until you do something worth skepticism. There are other people who are currently worth it and you’re not.

Weird, considering I've exploited the assumption of good will before and you've correctly adapted to it before.

Responding to your latest post, I am critiquing your

leaning into

the dance rather than cautiously away.

I don't really want to match your tone here, and I don't think it's NAI, but I think going out of your way across multiple posts to suggest I am not worth effort is disappointing.

I mean, I wanted to push a point I felt was important at the time. It didn’t really matter the past treatment or the weird distance in games.

You’re not worth the effort of a scumread currently, which... don’t really think is worth disappointment. Of interacting/as a whole you are or else I wouldn’t attempt to interact with you. I thought that was clear but it probably wasn’t, apologies.

To clarify a bit, because I feel bad about the implications I left: it’s frustrating to feel like there are expectations of play you’re not allowed to break, but yeah.

[Andante]

ok don’t actually do it please

But

How bad is massclaim in this setup

I kind of entertained the idea briefly but I have no idea how to do mech

Terrible idea but probably town for entertaining it at all, scum don't usually propose mass claim and risk the blowback

I SRed this btw, I do not see how asking for a mass claim helps anything. If I claim infinite vig here, I could be town or scum, I won't be CCed, it literally does nothing to help us, PRs won't be CCed

[catboi]

midwaybear scum
Datisi scum

Mare town
andante town
Faker town

/sigh

are these serious or?

Oh no

[Andante]

also, how funny would it be if I said I wanted to be VT? I may or may not have done that...

[skitter30]

thus far i like andante and dats

can i get the spice behind these two

both of you are just feeling very chill
and i think both of you as scum are more tense/stilted/less likely to give real-time free-flowing thoughts than you've been thus far

do you think i'm not chill than in that potions game or?

uh i don't remember? you just seem very chill here, more chill than i would expect as scum. i think it's a little harder for you to get into the vibe of this sort of game as scum

[skitter30]

wow this couldn’t have been further from how I feel about Datisi

Either I’m just terrible at reading him or skitter is scum

how do you feel abt him?

[innocentvillager]

Skitter can you quote which posts from datisi you feel have “real time free flowing thoughts” that he’s less likely to have as scum?

[flow trap]

also, how funny would it be if I said I wanted to be VT? I may or may not have done that...

Wow, you went for the alignment change, I see

[Andante]

also, how funny would it be if I said I wanted to be VT? I may or may not have done that...

Wow, you went for the alignment change, I see

hahaha yep! "I'd like to request changing sides, don't worry I won't tell town flow is scum"

[skitter30]

Spoiler:

Datisi did u finally roll scum against me u scumfuck??

i have literally never rolled scum in my life, what are you talking about

Is it to deter other people from picking them?

but there’s no pregame communication

how would you expect people to know that you just hope enough people do?

oh wow nice dumbslip iv i guess you're confirmed town now hehe

Also let the record show that i've no idea how to read iv and while the prior page is probably indicative of something, i've no idea what that something is

this is actually kinda how i feel and i wanna say skitt is +town for the mindmeld or whatever

Not really thrilled with skitter's start. I instinctively did not like the statements about catboi and IV, and checked it against several games but it doesn't line up with any she's played with me as either alignment.

VOTE: Mare

Meh.

you don't like skitter, so you will unvote her?

here we go again. *ahem* why am i scummy, iv?

i liked these

[flow trap]

VOTE: midwaybear

[flow trap]

also, how funny would it be if I said I wanted to be VT? I may or may not have done that...

Wow, you went for the alignment change, I see

hahaha yep! "I'd like to request changing sides, don't worry I won't tell town flow is scum"

As town I am scum, so that is accurate :3

[catboi]

ok don’t actually do it please

But

How bad is massclaim in this setup

I kind of entertained the idea briefly but I have no idea how to do mech

Terrible idea but probably town for entertaining it at all, scum don't usually propose mass claim and risk the blowback

I SRed this btw, I do not see how asking for a mass claim helps anything. If I claim infinite vig here, I could be town or scum, I won't be CCed, it literally does nothing to help us, PRs won't be CCed

Doesn't "help" but the mindset is almost always town driven because scum are never going to be so bold as to suggest the idea if they believe it to be a pro-scum move, as doing so just draws negative attention to them and is unlikely to get cooperation. Way more likely to get floated by town who are trying to experiment - don't think I've ever seen scum propose it, actually. (day 1 mass is more viable in a cosed setup, in here it's pointless and bad)

Look at the motivations, not whether the suggestion is helpful/unhelpful

[innocentvillager]

hmm on further thought it’s not really that far off from how I feel about him

without disclosing how I feel about his meta completely I feel anecdotally Datisi tries harder at scum than as town he takes it very seriously

Early posts gave me a performative vibe

the latest indifferent post where I started to reevaluate on him did not

He is starting to feel more chill lately but there’s plenty of other things I’m looking for in town datisi that I’m sure we’ll see

[Mare]

VOTE: midwaybear

;?

[innocentvillager]

lol Flow is town ok

[Datisi]

i have no clue what skitter sees in those posts that is townie, but considering i have been wrong like twice on how i thought town!skitter reads me, i will shrug my shoulders and say "i guess?"

[flow trap]

VOTE: midwaybear

;?

See post earlier post :3

[Andante]

ok don’t actually do it please

But

How bad is massclaim in this setup

I kind of entertained the idea briefly but I have no idea how to do mech

Terrible idea but probably town for entertaining it at all, scum don't usually propose mass claim and risk the blowback

I SRed this btw, I do not see how asking for a mass claim helps anything. If I claim infinite vig here, I could be town or scum, I won't be CCed, it literally does nothing to help us, PRs won't be CCed

Doesn't "help" but the mindset is almost always town driven because scum are never going to be so bold as to suggest the idea if they believe it to be a pro-scum move, as doing so just draws negative attention to them and is unlikely to get cooperation. Way more likely to get floated by town who are trying to experiment - don't think I've ever seen scum propose it, actually. (day 1 mass is more viable in a cosed setup, in here it's pointless and bad)

Look at the motivations, not whether the suggestion is helpful/unhelpful

ehhh I'm not sure I'd say only town would do it, idk innocentvillager at all, but they're striking me at the kind of person who genuinely wants to know about a massclaim here, and would ask it as town/scum like, anytime I ask setup questions/how to play, I'd ask those exact same questions as either alignment. Could also just be partly that I don't TR innocentvillager yet, and they have so many posts so ehhh idk

[Andante]

lol Flow is town ok

what makes you tr flow?

[catboi]

VOTE: flow trap

Feels more interested invibing/conversing than pulling out anything useful with what he's posting

[flow trap]

VOTE: flow trap

Feels more interested invibing/conversing than pulling out anything useful with what he's posting

Now I am conf town

[Andante]

i have no clue what skitter sees in those posts that is townie, but considering i have been wrong like twice on how i thought town!skitter reads me, i will shrug my shoulders and say "i guess?"

I agree on a few of those for being town points for you, especially 166 (I believe it was that one) I read it and was like, ok, maybe not scum.. just gonna back off dats

[Datisi]

VOTE: flow trap

was kinda thinking what catboi is thinking there so why not