open 841: concgratulations to the winners and losers

[innocentvillager]

midwaybear is town lol

Please tell

midwaybear is town :3

VOTE: midwaybear

this seems p townie to me lol

also theyre just vibing

And they called me town so

[Mare]

How is it townie.

[innocentvillager]

ok don’t actually do it please

But

How bad is massclaim in this setup

I kind of entertained the idea briefly but I have no idea how to do mech

Terrible idea but probably town for entertaining it at all, scum don't usually propose mass claim and risk the blowback

I SRed this btw, I do not see how asking for a mass claim helps anything. If I claim infinite vig here, I could be town or scum, I won't be CCed, it literally does nothing to help us, PRs won't be CCed

Doesn't "help" but the mindset is almost always town driven because scum are never going to be so bold as to suggest the idea if they believe it to be a pro-scum move, as doing so just draws negative attention to them and is unlikely to get cooperation. Way more likely to get floated by town who are trying to experiment - don't think I've ever seen scum propose it, actually. (day 1 mass is more viable in a cosed setup, in here it's pointless and bad)

Look at the motivations, not whether the suggestion is helpful/unhelpful

ehhh I'm not sure I'd say only town would do it, idk innocentvillager at all, but they're striking me at the kind of person who genuinely wants to know about a massclaim here, and would ask it as town/scum like, anytime I ask setup questions/how to play, I'd ask those exact same questions as either alignment. Could also just be partly that I don't TR innocentvillager yet, and they have so many posts so ehhh idk

ok why was it scum indicative originally then to you?

[flow trap]

Spoiler:

ok don’t actually do it please

But

How bad is massclaim in this setup

I kind of entertained the idea briefly but I have no idea how to do mech

Terrible idea but probably town for entertaining it at all, scum don't usually propose mass claim and risk the blowback

I SRed this btw, I do not see how asking for a mass claim helps anything. If I claim infinite vig here, I could be town or scum, I won't be CCed, it literally does nothing to help us, PRs won't be CCed

Doesn't "help" but the mindset is almost always town driven because scum are never going to be so bold as to suggest the idea if they believe it to be a pro-scum move, as doing so just draws negative attention to them and is unlikely to get cooperation. Way more likely to get floated by town who are trying to experiment - don't think I've ever seen scum propose it, actually. (day 1 mass is more viable in a cosed setup, in here it's pointless and bad)

Look at the motivations, not whether the suggestion is helpful/unhelpful

ehhh I'm not sure I'd say only town would do it, idk innocentvillager at all, but they're striking me at the kind of person who genuinely wants to know about a massclaim here, and would ask it as town/scum like, anytime I ask setup questions/how to play, I'd ask those exact same questions as either alignment. Could also just be partly that I don't TR innocentvillager yet, and they have so many posts so ehhh idk

I also feel like the fluff around the post could be an attempt to lessen the backlash if they were scum, so I don't think it is as town as cat does

[innocentvillager]

How is it townie.

scum don’t like to contradict themselves

[Andante]

midwaybear is town lol

Please tell

midwaybear is town :3

VOTE: midwaybear

this seems p townie to me lol

also theyre just vibing

And they called me town so

That's enough for you to TR? flow hasn't actually done anything other than random vote/joke around... I'm not saying they're scum, but like, I'm not comfortable calling them town yet

[Andante]

How is it townie.

scum don’t like to contradict themselves

have you not seen flow sit here and just vote half the table?

[catboi]

Mare, I have spoken in several different games of my intentionality in interacting with you to either shut you out of the game or to stay out of your way. It should be obvious that I intend to do neither this game.

However, in previous iterations (ex. Slaughter Hour) your response has been to be (rightfully) extremely skeptical of my intentions and to steer clear as much as possible. Your only real post about me that game came to warn off someone townreading me for tilt, and you only quoted someone else rather than added any commentary of your own.

I don't see the same skepticism of my intent here. I am very happy voting you.

fake OBVTOWN

[catboi]

midwaybear is town lol

Please tell

midwaybear is town :3

VOTE: midwaybear

this seems p townie to me lol

also theyre just vibing

And they called me town so

What

[innocentvillager]

these are potshot rvs reads not gamelocking life changing reads

pedit: yeah but they literally JUst Said bear was town and idk if scum would do that so brazenly

[flow trap]

flow hasn't actually done anything other than random vote/joke around...

Flow hasnt done anything other than act like town flow

(Also, this isn't an accurate representation)

[flow trap]

How is it townie.

scum don’t like to contradict themselves

have you not seen flow sit here and just vote half the table?

This is starting to feel like a push from scum, because I only voted 2 people?

[Mare]

Flow’s been doing memey/not really serious posting for the majority of the game so far so I don’t think a contradiction that falls into that same vein does a lot for me. Doesn’t feel towny in the context of all posts.

[innocentvillager]

How is it townie.

scum don’t like to contradict themselves

have you not seen flow sit here and just vote half the table?

This is starting to feel like a push from scum, because I only voted 2 people?

do u thjnk scum!andante is purposely lying here? is that why u feel it’s a scum push?

[Andante]

ok don’t actually do it please

But

How bad is massclaim in this setup

I kind of entertained the idea briefly but I have no idea how to do mech

Terrible idea but probably town for entertaining it at all, scum don't usually propose mass claim and risk the blowback

I SRed this btw, I do not see how asking for a mass claim helps anything. If I claim infinite vig here, I could be town or scum, I won't be CCed, it literally does nothing to help us, PRs won't be CCed

Doesn't "help" but the mindset is almost always town driven because scum are never going to be so bold as to suggest the idea if they believe it to be a pro-scum move, as doing so just draws negative attention to them and is unlikely to get cooperation. Way more likely to get floated by town who are trying to experiment - don't think I've ever seen scum propose it, actually. (day 1 mass is more viable in a cosed setup, in here it's pointless and bad)

Look at the motivations, not whether the suggestion is helpful/unhelpful

ehhh I'm not sure I'd say only town would do it, idk innocentvillager at all, but they're striking me at the kind of person who genuinely wants to know about a massclaim here, and would ask it as town/scum like, anytime I ask setup questions/how to play, I'd ask those exact same questions as either alignment. Could also just be partly that I don't TR innocentvillager yet, and they have so many posts so ehhh idk

ok why was it scum indicative originally then to you?

Cause the way you asked, it wasn't like you genuinely saw the benefit in claiming. I'm pretty dang clueless about a lot of this setup, but it's clear maf isn't gonna CC stuff, one quick glance at the setup page says that... I feel like if you were genuinely curions about a massclaim you'd have been like
"I was wondering about a massclaim, I know roles aren't gonna be cced, but I was wondering if that helped here or not"

idk, something about how you asked then moved on, it didn't feel like it was coming from a town mindset

[flow trap]

How is it townie.

scum don’t like to contradict themselves

have you not seen flow sit here and just vote half the table?

This is starting to feel like a push from scum, because I only voted 2 people?

do u thjnk scum!andante is purposely lying here? is that why u feel it’s a scum push?

Yeah, I know I am an easy vote for scum and Anda has bent the truth twice now

[Andante]

How is it townie.

scum don’t like to contradict themselves

have you not seen flow sit here and just vote half the table?

This is starting to feel like a push from scum, because I only voted 2 people?

no no!!! I don't sr you yet, but going "scum don't like to contradict themselves" uhhh has innocent not been watching you just vote and move on?

[Andante]

I AM NOT BENDING THE TRUTH FLOW

[Andante]

I DO NOT SR YOU AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME.

[flow trap]

How is it townie.

scum don’t like to contradict themselves

have you not seen flow sit here and just vote half the table?

This is starting to feel like a push from scum, because I only voted 2 people?

no no!!! I don't sr you yet, but going "scum don't like to contradict themselves" uhhh has innocent not been watching you just vote and move on?

This is a very weird tone shift after I pushed back

[innocentvillager]

well ok the benefits of a massclaim are to lock scum into a claim and I think their picks say a lot about their priorities and stuff

We have draft info too

We can read into this kind of stuff and share what we all put in for the draft etc and unravel the whole auction

It’s not completely dumb

[flow trap]

I AM NOT BENDING THE TRUTH FLOW

You said I havent contributed at all and voted a lot of people

[catboi]

thus far i like andante and dats
and maybe faker iv and mare

pings on midwaybear
and i'm still somewhat suspicious of catboi's 21 but he obviously isn't super into the game yet so idk we'll see. the sleepless vote was a good point tho

I somehow didn't grok the point you were actually making regarding the draft the first time but I picked high as a hedge and wanted somewhere in the middle - as scum I'd have gone aggressively for a low number because I'd have teammates who could mitigate the damage if I'd ended up doubling up with someone

[catboi]

I go to post and get ninjaed like 8 times

[Andante]

How is it townie.

scum don’t like to contradict themselves

have you not seen flow sit here and just vote half the table?

This is starting to feel like a push from scum, because I only voted 2 people?

no no!!! I don't sr you yet, but going "scum don't like to contradict themselves" uhhh has innocent not been watching you just vote and move on?

This is a very weird tone shift after I pushed back

feels a lot like you trying to pivot your voters on to me....
meanwhile I'm over here SRing innocentvillager