Open 840 - Guardians of the Fortress Saboteur PT

[Lukewarm]

I also, kinda regret the insta lock into the Keep. I think I could have handily won either other game at this point :/

[Toogeloo]

numberQ is pretty much sold on me scum, but doesn't want to out and out say it without implosion's blessing I think.

[Lukewarm]

That was to be expected. Going into this day phase, I understood you would end up in a cross vote with him.

His read does not matter, that game rests on implos read.

[imaginality]

You're doing great, I think.
I'm going to post my case on VP Baltar as requested by Tanner.
I think hopefully others agree with whoever it was (implo?) who said if I'm scum my reads on other games here will be accurate since I've leant Town on both of you.

[imaginality]

I want to find a way to paint someone other than you as most credible Keep scumbuddy for VP, Luke, but not sure I can? VP went Ari a bit but Pav and VP's recent interaction doesn't look paired. Maybe I can argue his pressure on Ari wasn't really followed through.

Do you still think Pav getting VC and voting you is best plan? I was wondering from some of Ari's recent posts whether she might vote you as more town than Pav..?

[Lukewarm]

I think Ari votes me, bit I don't think I can push for Ari to vote.

I *think* pav voting is still okay. He is paranoid of Ari too, so he is not voting soon, and I think he is likely to listen to others and I am fairly town read. I think my recent post might reach him too (have read yet to see)

It is also possible that Ari gets tired of pav putting it off and votes. I think that could happen. Pav is told to vote, but he keeps saying he isn't ready, and Ari takes it as a scum claim.

[Lukewarm]

I want to find a way to paint someone other than you as most credible Keep scumbuddy for VP, Luke, but not sure I can?

I have been going after Baltar pretty hard I think?

IF anything, I have been worried that I am going too hard against him, to the point that if I flip first he will look like he is never my partner here :/

[Lukewarm]

What game do you guys think that we want to have flip first?

[Lukewarm]

Like this game, I have in my suggestions that Toog gets vote power over numberq and Darby because I town read him (and that is not actually a trio anyways, so what ever)

But in your section I say you look scummy, but not partnered with Tanner - so an ic Tanner makes you scum

Interesting to me that this ended up swapping as the day went on? Like I thought I was gonna be town reading toog and scum reading imaginality, but here I am doing the opposite lol

Remember when I said that I don't actually plan things out too well, and kinda just go. Well, even when I had an idea before I started, I still just kinda went.


too be fair (to myself), I think that these are where my reads would be if I were town, and that is kinda my goal?

[Lukewarm]

Sorry you are not feeling well toog. are you seriously considering repping out?

I think you are doing fine, and, as always, I enjoy your presence in our games together

But also, if you don't feel up to it, don't stay just cause I said that lol

[Toogeloo]

Yeah, I have some seriously bad sinus congestion going on. I haven't been able to breathe out my nose for two days, my fever is broke from earlier, but I have such an intense sinus headache I'm certain I might have an infection at this point.

I have been immune compromised since my mid 20s after losing both my spleen and large intestine, so everything hits me hard.

[Toogeloo]

I'm going to an Urgent Care later. Thankfully I work from home right now, but winters always hit me hard

[Lukewarm]

Sorry to hear that Toog. Hope you feel better soon

[imaginality]

Yeah, that sounds seriously unfun. Feel better soon Toog!

[Toogeloo]

So...

I have severe sinusitis and mild pneumonia. I have a couple medications to take for both.

I'm officially requesting replacement in all my commitments.

[imaginality]

All the best, Toogeloo. Hope to play with you again once you're better.

[Lukewarm]

Feel better man

[Lukewarm]

The keep flipping first is probably best for us?

My scun flip would look bad for implo, and possibly shake that game up (which currently looks like a loss if it flips first)

Not sure who's to push for my own game to go first though :/

[imaginality]

I think there seems to be a general movement towards that idea (Keep flipping first) and it is good for us, but I think it's largely up to Tanner.
I might try to paint VP wanting Gate to flip before Keep as being worried about associatives if Keep flips first?

I think people will want Wall to flip last so hopefully your flip will have that influence.

[imaginality]

As for who to push for your own game you've done well at getting yourself most town read of the three so maybe focus a bit on Wall and Gate reads? And/or you could get everyone to pseudo vote on who they want to have vote control as per your proposed strategy for Keep, if you think you can ask for that without it seeming scummy? Might be better for that to come from someone else though.

[Lukewarm]

Sometimes I think that my posting level is a curse. My "slip" in 560 could have been nice, but I dont think that anyone will ever see it again because who the hell is doing a deep iso on me post flip lol

Spoiler:

Also, Baltar, you do realize that imaginality is only confirmed

town

from your POV, and not from tanner's, right?

luke and vp confirmed scum ggwp

Funny enough, this really was a typo. And I spotted it. And I then actively chose to not correct it, because if it was taken as a slip later that was better for us lol

[Lukewarm]

But yeah, it does appear to be sliding towards the keep going first. Pav is also lowering his guard on me, and has changed from being sure I am scum (still not sure why he was to begin with tbh) to talking to me about the possibility that Ari is the scum. Both are very good things for us.

[Lukewarm]

I am nervous about who our replacement is going to be x.x

[Lukewarm]

Ari and implo out here doing the lord's work

[Lukewarm]

Sometimes I think that my posting level is a curse. My "slip" in 560 could have been nice, but I dont think that anyone will ever see it again because who the hell is doing a deep iso on me post flip lol

Spoiler:

Also, Baltar, you do realize that imaginality is only confirmed

town

from your POV, and not from tanner's, right?

luke and vp confirmed scum ggwp

Funny enough, this really was a typo. And I spotted it. And I then actively chose to not correct it, because if it was taken as a slip later that was better for us lol

Uh, lmao

Luke said something earlier in the day about Imag only being confirmed town to VPBaltar, Tanner noted it as a skip and Luke laughed it off. If Luke does flip scum this does feel like more likely to be a slip.