open 841: concgratulations to the winners and losers

[Andante]

@flow trap
where are you? these people are starting to think you're scum... don't worry, I know you're secretly reading/finding scum, but we miss you!!!

Do you townread them?

uhhh need more content, they had some lines I liked, I don't *think* the not posting is indicative of alignment, it's holidays and they said they had computer issues so like ehhh probably busy, but step 1: flow returns and step 2: flow gives reads/thoughts, then we'll see

[Andante]

Here's some of the stuff I liked, like, I'm not a fan of people trying to be like "people are ignoring flow. flow scum" their lines weren't actually too bad when they were here, had genuine engagement on reads, I think they're fine for now

Spoiler:

ok don’t actually do it please

But

How bad is massclaim in this setup

I kind of entertained the idea briefly but I have no idea how to do mech

Terrible idea but probably town for entertaining it at all, scum don't usually propose mass claim and risk the blowback

I SRed this btw, I do not see how asking for a mass claim helps anything. If I claim infinite vig here, I could be town or scum, I won't be CCed, it literally does nothing to help us, PRs won't be CCed

Doesn't "help" but the mindset is almost always town driven because scum are never going to be so bold as to suggest the idea if they believe it to be a pro-scum move, as doing so just draws negative attention to them and is unlikely to get cooperation. Way more likely to get floated by town who are trying to experiment - don't think I've ever seen scum propose it, actually. (day 1 mass is more viable in a cosed setup, in here it's pointless and bad)

Look at the motivations, not whether the suggestion is helpful/unhelpful

ehhh I'm not sure I'd say only town would do it, idk innocentvillager at all, but they're striking me at the kind of person who genuinely wants to know about a massclaim here, and would ask it as town/scum like, anytime I ask setup questions/how to play, I'd ask those exact same questions as either alignment. Could also just be partly that I don't TR innocentvillager yet, and they have so many posts so ehhh idk

I also feel like the fluff around the post could be an attempt to lessen the backlash if they were scum, so I don't think it is as town as cat does

How is it townie.

scum don’t like to contradict themselves

have you not seen flow sit here and just vote half the table?

This is starting to feel like a push from scum, because I only voted 2 people?

do u thjnk scum!andante is purposely lying here? is that why u feel it’s a scum push?

Yeah, I know I am an easy vote for scum and Anda has bent the truth twice now

feels a lot like you trying to pivot your voters on to me....

Jokes on you, I don't even remember who's on me

ok, can you like, being serious for 2 seconds, tell me thoughts on innocentvillager

Spoiler:

VOTE: Faker obvtown

Voting someone you deem obvtown seems more like a town thing

Datisi you seem kind of salty about me being confirmed town

Same with declaring self conftown (even as a joke)

IV why do you seem self-conscious about your number.

No one else picked it

THEREFORE I’m a genus

I’m just flexing let me have my moment ok

This seems like proud town

i just picked a number that I thought was under picked

don’t think many people have picked 10 if not ever in the games I saw

Dunno this just sounds weirdly vulnerable compared to your posts so far.

Shrug.

well everyone was talking about their numbers and picks and shit and I wanted to jump into the discussion

for example, I thought it was unlikely scum chose both 8 and 9, but knowing SS always chooses 9 I may need to rethink this thought a little

pedit: skitter dw I’m obvtown

Jumping into discussion and rethinking upon new info is a town thing to do (Also, obvtown thing again)

skitter is town though!!!

skitter has 1 s, but also has 2 ts so this is prolly right :>

2/3 chance at town so 1/3 chance at scum?

I’m down!

VOTE:

This seems a little too careless for scum to do

ok don’t actually do it please

But

How bad is massclaim in this setup

I kind of entertained the idea briefly but I have no idea how to do mech

Already discussed this, I think it's more NAI

It was a meme response but not really a meme sentiment I have about u :3

Datisi we’ve had enough reps at this lol you have to expect this every time

This type of thing usually comes from town, even if it isn't accurate

[Faker]

I wasn't thrilled by flow trap's first half of the game but I have accepted from Iceland that I am unlikely to be able to read him with my current level of knowledge, barring extremely obvious ulterior motive.

Skitter, as a counter to your own towncase for me, what do you think of Pooky's point that I would get more tilted as town, over

something

be it him, Mare, etc. and that I am generally just too laid back to be town?

I'm not going to do what I usually do and rake people over the coals for questionable reasoning on me unless I legitimately question its faith btw

[Andante]

I wasn't thrilled by flow trap's first half of the game but I have accepted from Iceland that I am unlikely to be able to read him with my current level of knowledge, barring extremely obvious ulterior motive.

Skitter, as a counter to your own towncase for me, what do you think of Pooky's point that I would get more tilted as town, over

something

be it him, Mare, etc. and that I am generally just too laid back to be town?

I'm not going to do what I usually do and rake people over the coals for questionable reasoning on me unless I legitimately question its faith btw

lol I got you!! I'll figure out a flow read! (If they start really doing stuff, they're town. if not, gonna be scum)

Iceland sounds fun!!! Enjoy the trip! I know I have no plans to yeet you day 1, based on what I've seen from you so far, so enjoy Iceland!!! Don't put all focus here (unless you really want to... but I don't blame you for limited activity here)

[innocentvillager]

lol Datisi thinks I’m scum for real this time loooool

[innocentvillager]

I did run a little out of steam yesterday because I traveling the whole day due to the crazy snow delays in the US and I had zero energy at one point

[Faker]

LMAO, Iceland was a game I played with flow trap.

I wish it was my destination though!

[innocentvillager]

i think it's totally reasonable to have a TR on cakez

i have no problem with Datisi's evolution on me

im still leantown on Datisi/skit

i think skitter's town stance on me made me a little sus at first order level like she just misread scum!me in Open game, but i truly have been playing p differently this game

like going from "no idea how to read iv" to "iv prolly town" pretty quickly seems like a fast progression but one she totally had an excuse as scum not to make and i was sort of a polarizing slot at the time still

plus she still has nuancy thoughts and i find myself nodding along with a lot of what she says

anyway im still not rly putting these two above a leantown bc paranoia of their good scumgames but yea this is where im at rn there

[Andante]

LMAO, Iceland was a game I played with flow trap.

I wish it was my destination though!

LOL I was like, wow.. if I went to Iceland.. I would not be here XD

[Datisi]

iv, tell me who to vote for

[Faker]

(I was scum that game, Iceland, but it was very obvious to me that it was hard to get a handle on flow's alignment, until it finally became obvious with a gigantic word document he posted the last day. My attempt to read him in reaction to me did not go well in another mutually town Newbie in Open House)

flow is a "In case of emergency break glass" default/only if best available option vote in my book.

[innocentvillager]

i think have too many towns

andante
mare
faker, cakez, datisi, skitter
flow, cat
poe {nsg, midwaybear, pookybear, sleepless, SS}

[Faker]

Once, on EM, I spent several hours arguing on the forums, posting from various checkpoints while hiking up to the summit of Mt. Fuji with my partner.

I assure you Iceland would be nothing, I am a degenerate.

[Andante]

lol I agree with you that flow isn't an easy read, definitely funny though XD
oh wow, when I'm hiking I'm like not even looking at my phone lol but hey, not judging!! hiking mt. fuji sounds fun though!

uhh iv, why is mare so high on your list? like, can you link to the towny posts?

[Andante]

i think have too many towns

andante
mare
faker, cakez, datisi, skitter
flow, cat
poe {nsg, midwaybear, pookybear, sleepless, SS}

cause this... sounds like you're just repeating the "universal reads" right back at us..

[Andante]

I think I'm back to SRing IV

[innocentvillager]

i think have too many towns

andante
mare
faker, cakez, datisi, skitter
flow, cat
poe {nsg, midwaybear, pookybear, sleepless, SS}

cause this... sounds like you're just repeating the "universal reads" right back at us..

is this really that universal?

i mean it's not like these reads popped out of nowhere i have been developing them myself for the last couple days?

[innocentvillager]

because mare is tonally obvtown and ive been getting this vibe the whole game lmao

just like open her iso

[innocentvillager]

like every time i read one of your or mare's posts i go "lol yea town"

[innocentvillager]

if im wrong im fucking wrong lol ill deal with it later good enough for now

[Andante]

because mare is tonally obvtown and ive been getting this vibe the whole game lmao

just like open her iso

I want you to link to/quote what you think are some of mare's obvtown posts

[Andante]

i think have too many towns

andante
mare
faker, cakez, datisi, skitter
flow, cat
poe {nsg, midwaybear, pookybear, sleepless, SS}

cause this... sounds like you're just repeating the "universal reads" right back at us..

is this really that universal?

i mean it's not like these reads popped out of nowhere i have been developing them myself for the last couple days?

mmk I also want to know what you find towny about cake

[innocentvillager]

cakez weak meta read

lifeless and null as scum

energetic and lamisty as town

[Datisi]

iv why do *you* think faker is town

[Andante]

Mare:

I town.

IV:
"Mare is obvtown"