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Post Post #7550 (ISO) » Thu Dec 30, 2021 5:05 am

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In post 7527, Taly wrote:GG SAKURA HOLY SHIT
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Post Post #7551 (ISO) » Thu Dec 30, 2021 5:06 am

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What was a scumclaim, the fact that I visited you N2?

I feel like given my claim that was perfectly defensible. Maybe the way I played around it in the eastern bloc was weird though.
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Post Post #7552 (ISO) » Thu Dec 30, 2021 5:10 am

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yeah it’s uh...

like when i was vig in one of the vs games and was blocked i very much felt the person i tried to shoot was scum even if there was no real corrrlation

it’s just something that feels off without a real explanation
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Post Post #7553 (ISO) » Thu Dec 30, 2021 5:12 am

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In post 7547, RadiantCowbells wrote:NK15's role is outside of the typical scope of one of my games but I'm reasonably happy with how it turned out;
This was my favorite part and I was actually sad he got killed.
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Post Post #7554 (ISO) » Thu Dec 30, 2021 5:16 am

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Oof
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Post Post #7555 (ISO) » Thu Dec 30, 2021 5:27 am

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well thats dumb and i feel justified not praying now.
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Post Post #7556 (ISO) » Thu Dec 30, 2021 5:30 am

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In post 7531, Ydrasse wrote:thank god i never have to think about this game again
imagine thinking about this game in the first place
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Post Post #7557 (ISO) » Thu Dec 30, 2021 5:31 am

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In post 7553, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 7547, RadiantCowbells wrote:NK15's role is outside of the typical scope of one of my games but I'm reasonably happy with how it turned out;
This was my favorite part and I was actually sad he got killed.
I though this role was pretty neat too.
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Post Post #7558 (ISO) » Thu Dec 30, 2021 5:33 am

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Okay, so that was a very strong fakeclaim

In fairness there are multiple instances of active deception around Sakura's alignment in the dead thread.


Anyway, yeah I bodyguarded Taly N1 and Titus N2. Guess I was shot N2. Was kinda considering not bodyguarding at all that night.
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Post Post #7559 (ISO) » Thu Dec 30, 2021 5:38 am

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In post 7543, Taly wrote:Yay something I did worked

I appreciate you Jjh
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In post 5000, jjh927 wrote:You can be paranoid if you like, Taly, but it won't matter because I'm not gonna survive that many night phases
Omg you may not be scum but town trying to steal my NK bait

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Post Post #7560 (ISO) » Thu Dec 30, 2021 5:39 am

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I don't like games to be solvable by role claim. GrandpaMo had an even better fakeclaim in my opinion, but just because someone's claim is towny != they are town.

When I design scum roles I design their town claims first so that every scum role I design has a role that fits neatly into the game overall.
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Post Post #7561 (ISO) » Thu Dec 30, 2021 5:41 am

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Yeah but even with that philosophy most people are clowns and change things a bit which means it's still frequently easy to spot fakeclaims
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Post Post #7562 (ISO) » Thu Dec 30, 2021 5:42 am

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I would say that a massclaim where the big important question of "why were there 2 kills on night 4" was frequently asked would have been the way to figure it out mechanically here though
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Post Post #7563 (ISO) » Thu Dec 30, 2021 6:01 am

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It was quite a struggle, with Victorine basically being non existant, GMo slipping TMI, then SS being suspected and Gamma having to leave and the replacement being insta suspected.
Didn't know what else to do BUT to bus, specially considering my abilities.

I used the strongman vig on NK15, then i triple rolecop'd Gypyx, Deimos and Galron. (In hindsight im quite surprised ppl didnt ask me about what my other rolecop results were, i did claim and unblockable triple role cop), ending with a loyal vig on Enchant (i figured enchant would be next to die anyway and i'd get more towncred from vigging them and making a town and a scum kill appear at the same time)
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Post Post #7564 (ISO) » Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:20 am

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In post 7560, RadiantCowbells wrote:just because someone's claim is towny != they are town.
+1

That’s a towny sounding claim is exactly the kind of reaction that makes a good scumrole.
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Post Post #7565 (ISO) » Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:44 am

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Funny game, RC was annoyed at us the last few days us screaming at each other about fake masons and split hydra alignments.
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Post Post #7566 (ISO) » Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:46 am

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In post 7557, Galron wrote:
In post 7553, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 7547, RadiantCowbells wrote:NK15's role is outside of the typical scope of one of my games but I'm reasonably happy with how it turned out;
This was my favorite part and I was actually sad he got killed.
I though this role was pretty neat too.
No, his role fucking pissed me of at no end.

Its neat when the person isn't trying to kill u at every stage.
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"last time I was scum with Firebringer
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His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #7567 (ISO) » Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:49 am

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In post 7540, Sakura Hana wrote:Image
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In all seriousness tho i was nervous af if ppl would start questioning why i wasnt dead.
there was too many confirm townies and u never portrayed a strong voice in day game so i figured scum just had horrible priorities.

TBH if this game hadn't ended i thought of asking u about ur vig shoots and even testing u but i never talked about this with Pooky/Taly i was more of figuring out "why did we have 2 deaths N4" and i hadn't fully put pieces together cause again w/e.

If we were at final 3 i want to say i would suspect u but u played amazingly, probably would still give u this win.
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His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #7568 (ISO) » Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:51 am

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In post 7564, Jingle wrote:
In post 7560, RadiantCowbells wrote:just because someone's claim is towny != they are town.
+1

That’s a towny sounding claim is exactly the kind of reaction that makes a good scumrole.
i keep telling people this but no one listens ): but fr the alternative wincon was a little bs with the tools available to look townie enough to live to the end ):
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Post Post #7569 (ISO) » Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:51 am

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In post 7563, Sakura Hana wrote:It was quite a struggle, with Victorine basically being non existant, GMo slipping TMI, then SS being suspected and Gamma having to leave and the replacement being insta suspected.
Didn't know what else to do BUT to bus, specially considering my abilities.

I used the strongman vig on NK15, then i triple rolecop'd Gypyx, Deimos and Galron. (In hindsight im quite surprised ppl didnt ask me about what my other rolecop results were, i did claim and unblockable triple role cop), ending with a loyal vig on Enchant (i figured enchant would be next to die anyway and i'd get more towncred from vigging them and making a town and a scum kill appear at the same time)
lmao u could win by hellbussing all game based on that wincon cuz you get prayers faster
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Post Post #7570 (ISO) » Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:57 am

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Post Post #7571 (ISO) » Thu Dec 30, 2021 10:47 am

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What was Sakura's role?
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Post Post #7572 (ISO) » Thu Dec 30, 2021 10:58 am

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In post 7519, RadiantCowbells wrote:The prayers of many have reached Sanae Kochiya in their dying moments, bolstering her power and fueling her ascension to godhood.

As her power waxes she reaches her 13th prayer and creates a miracle, ascending to divinity and winning the game for her team.

Sakura Hana was Sanae Kochiya, Wind Priestess.

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Welcome, Sakura Hana. You are Sanae Kochiya, Wind Priestess. You are a Mafia Faith-Collecting Deity.

Something like winning a match can't be compared to a miracle!


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Prayers to Moriya (Faith-Dependent): Every time a town-aligned player dies, they will have the option to pray to you. As you receive prayers, you will gain stronger and stronger 1-use power roles.

Shrine Maiden (Loved): At 3 prayers you become loved for the remainder of the game. This modifier ceases to work in XLo.
Mighty Wind (1-Shot Strongman Ninja Vigilante): At 5 prayers once per game you may target a player for a nightkill that will use both the strongman and ninja modifiers. This is independent of the factional nightkill.
Gray Thaumaturgy (Triple Role Cop): At 7 prayers once per game you can discover 3 roles. This ability cannot be roleblocked.
Forgotten Ritual (Mass Roleblock): At 10 prayers, you can roleblock every town-aligned player together. This supercedes all other actions.
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Forgotten Ritual (1-Shot Loyal Vig): At 10 prayers, you can target a player with a Loyal Vig action.
Miracle (Non-standard Win Condition): At 13 prayers, you can cause a miracle and win the game instantly for your team.
Mafia (Mafia): You are aligned with the Mafia and can discuss the game with your teammates here.

You win when the Town have been removed or nothing can prevent this from happening.


Your fakeclaim is as follows:

Welcome, Sakura Hana. You are Sanae Kochiya, Wind Priestess. You are a Faith-Collecting Deity.

Something like winning a match can't be compared to a miracle!


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Prayers to Moriya (Faith-Dependent): Every time a town-aligned player dies, they will have the option to pray to you. As you receive prayers, you will gain stronger and stronger 1-use power roles.

Shrine Maiden (Loved): At 3 prayers you become loved for the remainder of the game. This modifier ceases to work in XLo.
Mighty Wind (1-Shot Parity Cop): At 5 prayers once per game you may target two player and learn whether they are the same alignment or different.
Gray Thaumaturgy (Triple Role Cop): At 7 prayers once per game you can discover 3 roles. This ability cannot be interfered with.
Forgotten Ritual (2-Shot Disloyal Vig): At 10 prayers, you can pick two players and disloyally vig them, killing them if they are not on your team.
Miracle (Divine Ascension): At 13 prayers, you leave the game. As you leave, you are given the full scumteam and have the option of strongman killing one of your choice.

You win when the Mafia have been removed or nothing can prevent this from happening.


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Post Post #7573 (ISO) » Thu Dec 30, 2021 11:24 am

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RIPPP I gave the losing prayer
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Post Post #7574 (ISO) » Thu Dec 30, 2021 11:25 am

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I consciously had warning bells ringing in my head like IF SAKURA IS 2S WHY DIDN'T SHE SHOOT AGAIN TONIGHT but I convinced myself that since she caught not one but two scum singlehandedly she had to be town
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